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The Islamic call to prayer was recited in Trafalgar Square, Central London last night

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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: andy06shake

Come to Balkan my good man. Not having an ID is punishable by law. And in my mind...rightly so. Yet, none of us feel we live in a police state because of it. Commit no crime, and you wont have a problem.

Our murder rates are nowhere near yours. Crime rates, also nowhere near yours. And yet, your country is far more progressive then mine. Also far more diverse...

Worst crime we have here..is corporate crime.


It's interesting. I spent time in Vietnam on a work assignment and was told to always have my visa and my passport on me at all times as I could and - most likely - would be stopped and asked to produce them.

Not once was I stopped. I was a bit disappointed in the end because having the visa and passport wedged in the pocket of a pair of jeans all day was hardly comfortable.




posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

I've been to Croatia. Very nice. Lots of German tourists.

At hotel there was one fried egg left at the breakfast buffet so i put my spatula thing under it and was about to put it on my plate when this large German lady put hers under the egg and tried to steal it. A sort of spatula sword fight then ensued which I won though the egg was a bit worse for wear.

It was very "You come to Sherwood Castle once too often, Sir Robin".

Not sure that really counts as a crime though? Attempted theft?



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: andy06shake

Come to Balkan my good man.


Did Croatia, bits of Bosnia and Serbia back in the late 80's, early 90's when it was still Yugoslavia. I have to say it is still my favourite part of the world to have visited, one of those places where you go somewhere and say "wow, this is stunning, what could be better?"......and then you go around to the next bay / valley / whatever and say it all over again! Plitvice is out of this world.

I have to say though, i did find you ALL to be rather nuts over there. Incredibly friendly but just slightly......insane.....does that sound familiar?



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

Ive been to Bulgaria, nice place bit mental mafia wise.

The food in some of those hotels through could give food poisoning, food poisoning! LoL

Especially the Eggs.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: MyToxicTash
a reply to: andy06shake

To be fair the CCTVs are mostly in private hands.
70 times the amount in private hands than governmental.



CCTV in operation for the purposes of Crime Prevention and "public safety"

aye right , basically so you can claim insurance !

Load of pish , how they can film us with impunity , yet we arent even able to film anyone in the street without their permissioN!

Start wearing geometric face paint in alternating black and white over the face , and employ the ministry of silly walks , no facial recognition or gait recognition, or just carry a handy flash EMP , and disable those cameras everywhere !

no right to film us without our permission , in Glasgow you are on film in the city center in every street you walk down constantly being observed for "security"



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

More differences between the regressive, socialist, invasive nanny state in the UK and the Land of the Free where individual freedoms are enshrined and people are at liberty to live as they choose free from the dictates of the state.

Yes, I appreciate your dedication to freedom. The encroachment of totalitarian agendas upon society is far more undermining of our freedom than might be suspected. In fact some strategies are being used in the name of tolerance.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: sapien82

I tend to agree with that assessment.

But it won't stop the future from rolling all over the top of us.

Hell of preparation one would have to make to simply walk down the street all the same.

Can you imagine having to get all that clobber on in the morning? LoL

Where would you get these handy flash EMP from? Not seeing those kicking around anytime soon else I can see a few people getting done will all sorts if found with weaponized electromagnetic pulse devices, imagine that on a plane?

It trumps shoe bombs anyway. LoL

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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 02:24 PM
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Not a huge fan of the call to prayer being blasted about the place but as folks have said, the square is a public place and all sorts of religions go there for the odd event and if that is all it is then fine, if it starts to be regular then no, I would not be happy and I'll explain why.

We have many a happy Muslim soul who just heads of to the Mosque on a Friday to pray, they need no call, its something they do automatically and are welcome to it. Sadly we have also got many much more radical Muslims who actually see the call to prayer being broadcast loudly as a proof that they have a control now. Sound odd, sadly its true..Seriously, it is.

There are many Muslims of radical ideals that demand for the call to prayer to be heard just as it is in Islamic lead countries as its a culture and control exercise there. This is not as yet a Muslim majority country and a betrayal of our heritage would be soul destroying. Imagine telling Muslims in Pakistan that we plan to flood the place with Christian churches, they would scream blue murder and very rightly tell us that they have a long history and culture that is not ours to destroy. Sadly many immigrants to here or the newly radicalised see the call as a proof of power and will demand more.

To many, Islam is a replacement culture here, the old days of the keeping the UK British are fading, people who once agreed with UK laws and culture are now being swayed, bullied or simply out shouted by people who see the UK and other places are new places to spread Islam even though the Quran itself tells people to not force it on people and to respect other religions and cultures. More Radicals now see Islam as a religion, a way of life and a must be obeyed cultural replacement....Again, you may disagree but you will if you bother to ASK the more vocal Muslims that its the truth.

Numbers do not mean much here, its the sway and intimidation ways that Radicals force this alternate version both on their own and Non believers that give them more power than numbers allow for.

You think its all rubbish, well I wish you luck because its the honest truth that is evident on the streets between Muslims and the ever more growing divide between them and Non Muslims, a problem that Non Radical Muslims know about but do little to stop and even they are being antagonised..

You lovely people living in suburban area's who follow the lefty trend and rubbish this have no actual standing because the Radicals see them as a use to an end and then they will drop them like a red hot poker. Those living within the communities of mixture of cultures will see that what I say is true unless they are stupidly brainwashed.

Extremism from all sides is the last thing we need, it will lead to conflict like we cannot comprehend because in general we for the most part are not a violent society, you wait till one that has lived as one starts to turn. Far right hatred and religious radicalisation will meet and it won't be good for ANY of us..



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

What do you mean "encroachment"?

Totalitarian agendas have been the colour of the day since time immemorial.

You don't have any true freedom really, just the illusion of such.

You piss off the TPTB or become a blip on their radar and "they" will hunt you down and silence you, one way or the other.

Democracy or otherwise, it's all illusory in the extreme.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:14 PM
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Islam is not a religion. Name one country since around 600 AD that has been able to peacefully co-exist with Islam. Even sects of Islam cannot get along and have fought for centuries and still do. It is what you see now in the ME.

It is an ideology. It is not that I do not like it. I do not want it. It is a choice that we all have but it is not a religion. It is a way of life. If you break rules there are serious consequence.

A call to prayer is not Christmas Carols. Is the Lord's Prayer recited everyday after Ave Maria in Trafalgar? Nope. Never has. Never will. Because religion is a choice.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

You try telling that to Islams 1.5 billion adherents.

22% of the world population.

Truth is all organized religious practice contain ideologies.

Its how they function, control their followers and distinguish themselves from others.

If you break the rules, there are always consequences, cause and effect being the colour of the day, and all that jazz.

Religion is indeed a choice, and i pity a world where we don't get to choose or is any different.


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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Correct and if you choose it you deal with it but Islam is not a conforming ideology and/or religion. At all. In developed nations there are moderates but there are many places there one way or death.

Fact is Shia/Sunni kill each other on a daily basis around the world. Tell me the last time a Catholic killed a Baptist or some Methodists blew up a Protestant Church. Irelands conflict is one of the only examples I can think of there people of the same Christian religion were actively attacking and killing each other and even then it was not near the scale that Islam has. Besides, ever heard a Muslim alert authorities to the next suicide bombing?



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 01:20 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Kryties
I read the OP as this:

"Freedom of speech and freedom of religion for all............



..............except Muslims".




I believe that would be nail firmly hit on head.


Unless you happen to live in an Islamic country, in which case it would be "Freedom of speech and freedom religion for no one....except Muslims. And only the men. And no freedom of religion either. Or very much of anything else really. Shut up and do as you're told."

The call to prayer is problematic for me. The tolling of church bells have been heard up and down our country for centuries. I'm not religious but there's something reassuringly British about it, like watching cricket or drinking tea.

The Islamic call to prayer is like so many other aspects of that 'religion', it sounds alien and is not a part of British culture. When you hear an Imam howling at the top of his lungs from some bloody minaret, he's not just calling in the faithful, he's saying that this part of the world is now part of the ummah and you better get used to it. Because, once Islam gets its hooks in a country, they believe it's theirs.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: WUNK22
But, but, it’s the religion of peace my teacher said!?! Muslims are the most tolerant amongst us no??


The British will call us soon to bail them out of the Muslim problem, right after we wake up to it!


There has been more lives lost due to Christianity and we still tote it around as the most common religion in the states.

I wish people were more educated on things before they show hate.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 02:24 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: andy06shake

Correct and if you choose it you deal with it but Islam is not a conforming ideology and/or religion. At all. In developed nations there are moderates but there are many places there one way or death.

Fact is Shia/Sunni kill each other on a daily basis around the world. Tell me the last time a Catholic killed a Baptist or some Methodists blew up a Protestant Church. Irelands conflict is one of the only examples I can think of there people of the same Christian religion were actively attacking and killing each other and even then it was not near the scale that Islam has. Besides, ever heard a Muslim alert authorities to the next suicide bombing?




Christians are killing muslims on a daily basis and vice a versa, Catholics might not be killing still but they are still doing other nasty things like being pedophiles. Just because one is religious it doesn't make them honorable or even trustworthy.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 02:35 AM
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In Muslim majority countries the majority of people are Muslims.

The majority in any country control the culture. The culture is set by the majority over many generations.

Ever hear of a Nazi stoning his own mother and daughter to death for being raped while his peers and townsfolk cheered him on all in the name of Hitler?

The majority of muslims. It’s most definitely the majority of muslims.

When islam is the majority, there are NO minority rights.

It seriously needs to be treated by mainstream society in the same way we treat the kkk and the Nazis.
Every person who subscribes to the ultra-oppressive rape culture of Islam needs to be shunned. We simply shouldn’t be tolerating an idea system that openly advocates for total domination by such atrocious means.
We didn’t tolerate Hitler, why are we tolerating mohammed?

It’s insane.

ALL beliefs must be open to criticism and ridicule. Stop defending such hate. All Muslims follow Islam.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 03:04 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

What does any of that have to do with reality or a multi-faith peace voigil? Sounds like your the radicalised one spreading hate as usual, sure you've made that se post 50 times or more in recent weeks.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: Midnightmosesuk

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Kryties
I read the OP as this:

"Freedom of speech and freedom of religion for all............



..............except Muslims".




I believe that would be nail firmly hit on head.


Unless you happen to live in an Islamic country, in which case it would be "Freedom of speech and freedom religion for no one....except Muslims. And only the men. And no freedom of religion either. Or very much of anything else really. Shut up and do as you're told."

The call to prayer is problematic for me. The tolling of church bells have been heard up and down our country for centuries. I'm not religious but there's something reassuringly British about it, like watching cricket or drinking tea.

The Islamic call to prayer is like so many other aspects of that 'religion', it sounds alien and is not a part of British culture. When you hear an Imam howling at the top of his lungs from some bloody minaret, he's not just calling in the faithful, he's saying that this part of the world is now part of the ummah and you better get used to it. Because, once Islam gets its hooks in a country, they believe it's theirs.


We are not talking about Muslims countries, we are talking about the UK.

Specifically we are talking about a memorial service for the victims of a mass murderer.

But keep on with the 'Muslims bad' narrative



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 03:25 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

'Every person who subscribes to the ultra-oppressive rape culture of Islam needs to be shunned.'

does this involve a direct debit mandate or a continuous payment instruction?

travelled much without supply lines?

f.



posted on Mar, 28 2019 @ 03:29 AM
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Everyone who subscribed to kkk culture is shunned.

No?

Travelled? You bet.



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