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The Islamic call to prayer was recited in Trafalgar Square, Central London last night

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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Then chances are they would not question you any further and simply wait the 7 days to receive confirmation of your credentials before proceeding to use the registration number to trace the vehicle if you don't materialize at the Police station.

No system is perfect, but the situation generally dictates what Police do or how far they will go to establish your identity.

What's the alternative, everyone being fingerprinted, DNA harvested, and entered into the system?

A bit draconian really but the truth is it's on the cards and in the post.
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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

More differences between the regressive, socialist, invasive nanny state in the UK and the Land of the Free where individual freedoms are enshrined and people are at liberty to live as they choose free from the dictates of the state.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

are you put on the electoral role by registering to your home address, place of residence
and the local council register you on the electoral role if you pay council tax on a property

people who don't live in a house and aren't registered cant vote , this also ties into your credit rating etc, so they make it worthwhile for working class people to register to vote as it assists with their credit score!



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

well..if you say so. I have reservations, and feel like it's far more easier to commit a crime in Britain. Far more easier to conceal oneself. But it appears to me that you guys are not worried about that. Good luck.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Back in 2010 Parliament discussed the idea of issuing ID Cards.

MP's didn't like the idea so it was thrown out.




The publication of the identity documents bill today marks the end of an eight-year Whitehall struggle over compulsory identity cards since they were first floated by the then-home secretary David Blunkett in the aftermath of 9/11.


www.theguardian.com...



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

It all depends on what you are trying to do.....ID requirements vary in accordance with what someone is trying buy/do etc.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:30 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Easier than where?

What's the comparison?

This place is pretty much an Orwellian nightmare of our own creation.

We are as obsessed will illusory freedom and security as the USA and the price we pay is one of the most extensive CCTV systems in the world nevermind more meta information being collected and doing the rounds on our citizens than just about any other nation on Earth.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

To be fair the CCTVs are mostly in private hands.
70 times the amount in private hands than governmental.
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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: Hecate666
Why do some people not see the the baby steps that lead to far more than what is happening at the time.
No, at first nothing is wrong to have muslims calling to prayer in the middle of London [England, Europe] because yeah it's apparently a free country [it's not bit that's for some other thread].

But it's not a one off prayer is it?
It is one notch up on the stove where the frog sits in a pot filled with water.
The next notch will also seem ok, so will the next one. Each notch will never look dangerous and yet the heat is going up and eventually little froggy will be cooked and dead.

Are there really such naive people who can never imagine where something will lead to?

History can teach us things. If islam was churning out the best scientists in the world, the most equal womens rights, the most peaceful and free society, guess what I'd pray with them [even though I am an Atheist].
However it's not is it?
Islam has tried over and over to get to Europe. Islam has converted most other countries on the globe.

So let me guess what conclusions you draw from that?

a) isalm justy wants what's best for you?
b) islam is really brilliant?
c) islam spreads at any costs if you want to or not?

I'll go with c) here.
Now with that in mind, back to the London [Emgland, Europe] prayer call...it gives me the creeps because it's not even trying politely any longer. It's here. London has caught islam and the rest of the country isn't feeling too well either for much longer.



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Yes thank you! I’ve had some personal experience that perhaps some others here have not. I’ve given people the benefit of the doubt but even I was naive. I mentioned the camel in the tent story my dad told me where the camel keeps asking to out a hoof then another hoof then his nose then his whole head till finally the whole camel is inside the tent. I even love the sound of the call to prayer. For decades in the US, secular humanists decried Christianity in schools on ground of separation of church and state but now it’s ok to indoctrinate the children into Islam.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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Indeed, but that does not mean they cannot gain access to such should they feel the need to do so.

Then there are the surveillance and information gathering capabilites of say the likes of GCHQ to be considered.

That's state of the art, and the best in the world if truth be told.

These people are serious about what they do and the information they collect and store.

Unless of course its say pedophile dossiers on our politicians or the like, they somehow manage to lose those rather sharpish.

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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

Just grow a big moustache. I have attempted to get my passport done for the last six months. No computer could recognise me I even had to go to Liverpool to get it sorted. About 30 photos sent in...computer says no...computer says I'm smiling all the time 😁.
I have got one now but I think I'm going to have trouble at passport control.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:51 AM
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Like this one. LoL

KInd of make you easier to spot would it not?



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: andy06shake

For humans yes computers no.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: andy06shake

well..if you say so. I have reservations, and feel like it's far more easier to commit a crime in Britain. Far more easier to conceal oneself. But it appears to me that you guys are not worried about that. Good luck.


There's numerous legal and illegal databases to establish someone's true identity and in recent years it's been made a lot harder to prove your identity without photo ID (Still perfectly do-able I have none myself as passport expired a few years back and can't drive due to disability). The only way to not appear on a UK police database is to never have used any public service.

There's smart CCTV cameras that recognise and track the number plate of every car entering or leaving a large town or city that flag up if someone has a warrant or is driving while suspended/uninsured, medical records can be accessed without patient or doctor consent and records that are meant to legally be scrubbed when people are fund innocent have been illegally kept. Though most police won't bother searching any of that if the person is being friendly and polite.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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Facial recognition has come on leaps and bounds mate.

There are algorithms, surveillance techniques, and systems that can even detect precrime with varying degrees of ever-increasing accuracy.

Computers are indeed beginning to get smart and with the introduction of AI technologies and a hell of a lot less passive.
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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:56 AM
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Come to Balkan my good man. Not having an ID is punishable by law. And in my mind...rightly so. Yet, none of us feel we live in a police state because of it. Commit no crime, and you wont have a problem.

Our murder rates are nowhere near yours. Crime rates, also nowhere near yours. And yet, your country is far more progressive then mine. Also far more diverse...

Worst crime we have here..is corporate crime.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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Not worried about facial recognition tbh easy to cover ones face or paint a stripe on it to cock up the software but that gait recognition... can't get past that.
Big business in the future fashion to help fool it.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:00 AM
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well..if you say so. I have reservations, and feel like it's far more easier to commit a crime in Britain. Far more easier to conceal oneself. But it appears to me that you guys are not worried about that. Good luck.


Well at least not every homicidal maniac over here is armed to the teeth with automatic weapons and assault rifles so on the whole we rub along OK.

my mistake - I thought you were from the US so apologies for that.


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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:01 AM
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You know its a place i have always wanted to visit.

Oh aye the UK is progressive alright, one step forward and two steps back. LoL

Worse places all the same on Earth to live, it is what we make it i suppose.
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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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a reply to: MyToxicTash

Covering your face or painting it simply draws attention rather than bestows any measure of anonymity.

You would simply defeat your own purpose, and to be honest with the progress being made where facial recognition is concerned, paint would do very little to retard a systems ability to establish identity.




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