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originally posted by: IAMTAT
This book is being banned because it "can cause students to feel upset, marginalized or humiliated and can create an uncomfortable atmosphere in the classroom,”.
Since when is getting upset or uncomfortable detrimental to learning of developing the ability to think for one's self?
Plenty of great books make us uncomfortable and are upsetting...by intent.
This is one of the reasons WHY they are great books that they have an impact on society through learning from them.
Why make learning and thinking "comfortable"?
Film critic Roger Ebert wrote[4] that the book was "so banal that it had to be sold to adults; kids would have seen through it."
originally posted by: InTheLight
You are speaking from the point of view of an adult with life's experience.
I don't feel my cultural historical past from WWII is relevant to me now and the hate, violence and vile name-calling was experienced by my white ancestors at that time, as well as before and after immigrating. I would prefer a general take on that time in history and not give those that hate and are violent towards other cultures/races any type of platform with children.
Also, I wish they had banned "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" in my school because that was an affront to my intelligence as a young teenager and I let the teacher know - she subsequently gave me a bad grade.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: InTheLight
I don't feel my cultural historical past from WWII is relevant to me now and the hate, violence and vile name-calling was experienced by my white ancestors at that time, as well as before and after immigrating. I would prefer a general take on that time in history and not give those that hate and are violent towards other cultures/races any type of platform with children.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...........
If you sanitize history in order to coddle peoples feelings, then they never understand the true horror and thus are more likely to repeat it......
We are seeing the fruits of that now with young people who are repeating the same mistakes that lead to Germany 1942.....
Your statement is precisely the reason why people SHOULD learn history and all its horrors
Also, I wish they had banned "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" in my school because that was an affront to my intelligence as a young teenager and I let the teacher know - she subsequently gave me a bad grade.
And judging by your responses youre the PERFECT example of why book banning should never happen.......
Yikes man........
I never thought I would see the day I would see everyday people advocate banning books......
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: InTheLight
You are speaking from the point of view of an adult with life's experience.
As the great Kinky Friedman once said, 'Treat children like adults and adults like children'.
I read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn when I was a child and I am 100% normal.
I think that historical atrocities, or the truth, could be better understood, in conjunction with political science, psychology, and philosophy courses, in understanding human history on a wider learning scale, at the university level when students are, hopefully, more emotionally mature.
Again, when dealing with children the rules of the games are different.
originally posted by: generik
you know, if you seriously think about it they should be working to make books like Huckleberry Finn and such works mandatory reading in school. in fact i have to say i'm actually surprised upon thinking about it, that the democrats and liberals and people wanting this and other like works banned, are not pushing for mandatory reading of books such as this as a part of pushing their agenda of hate against whites. to show and teach the evils of that time period. and of course to push that racial hate indoctrination even more especially among black students.
originally posted by: thegeneraldisarray
a reply to: InTheLight
So, coddle the teens because they might be uncomfortable with classic literature yet you are so smart that you challenged your teacher - are you saying minority kids are dumber than your superior self?
Because it kinda sounds like you are saying just that.
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: InTheLight
I think that historical atrocities, or the truth, could be better understood, in conjunction with political science, psychology, and philosophy courses, in understanding human history on a wider learning scale, at the university level when students are, hopefully, more emotionally mature.
Thats just the problem, people dont get emotionally mature by being coddled........
Again, when dealing with children the rules of the games are different.
Again not to be a jerk here, but judging by your statements, it doesnt seem you have a good grasp on how to deal with children in this particular area
originally posted by: InTheLight
So say you.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: InTheLight
So say you.
Who else better to give that assesment about me than me?
Book-banners like in the Original Post can choose to raise their children like vealsand banning Twain becasue feelz is not exactly sound reasoning.
originally posted by: InTheLight
Well, those that are making the rules there disagree with you, so what can you do?
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: IAMTAT
Understandable. When I read that in school here in New Jersey the first thing I did was get on a raft and float down on the Passaic River to Newark.