Barbra Streisand says Jackson’s “Sexual Needs Were His Sexual Needs” In Interview

The King of Pop invites your 9 year old over for a sleepover. And, apparently, you guys would drop your kid off without a worry. Again and again and again, you drop your son off for a sleepover with a grown man. At least my drunk uncle didn't sleep in my bed, let alone the same room. Maybe my parents were too strict with my bedmates. Maybe if my drunk uncle had that talent and money my parents would justify us sharing a pillow. But, but, but..thriller was soooooo good.

originally posted by: Starhooker
The King of Pop invites your 9 year old over for a sleepover. And, apparently, you guys would drop your kid off without a worry. Again and again and again, you drop your son off for a sleepover with a grown man. At least my drunk uncle didn't sleep in my bed, let alone the same room. Maybe my parents were too strict with my bedmates. Maybe if my drunk uncle had that talent and money my parents would justify us sharing a pillow. But, but, but..thriller was soooooo good.

You are putting words in people mouths.

I wouldnt leave my kid sleep in bed with another man (unless it was like a grandpa or something)

That however is not proof MJ was a pedophile. You disgust of him sleeping ain a bed with kids doesnt mean he sexually assualted them.

The only eveidnce we have is from the accusers, which as the videos I posted show have many many problems.

a reply to: strongfp

I'll watch it. And if I'm convinced I'll freely admit my misguided judgement. But it's a fact that he HAD LITTLE BOYS IN HIS BED, and quite frequently. That's enough for me to know that something isn't right and I would be naive to believe that a grown ass, pilled out wino guy just likes having little boys next to him while he innocently slept. He had heterosexual porn? And kind of banged some chicks? How many supposed hetero people have been caught in homosexual affairs? A buttload of supposed morally sound men have been caught with d#$ks in their behind and a meth pipe in their mouths and a wife who never thought he was into the same sex. Looking back she realized the subtle signs were there. And it was obvious if she wasn't blinded by love. He had little boys sleep next to him in his bed without any supervision. I refuse to accept that as being even marginally acceptable.

Throughout the history "beards" have been used to disguise sexual orientation. So he spent time in the bed with young boys in secret chambers then you need to ask why secret chambers ? Also wasn´t there pornographical material found too in these chambers, heterosexual porn .. was there other kind of porn published at the time? Gay porn ?
MJ+Kid+Secret chamber+Bed+Porn magazines... you don´t need to be a scientist to do the math.

Surely investigators didn´t do their job properly. Was DNA gathered from the bed sheets and magazines ? Never heard that.

a reply to: dollukka

This is exactly like the kavanaigh argument

Kavanaugh drank alot. He had girls around alot. he made crude sexual jokes about women. So put two and two together, and clearly he tried to rape women.

Sorry, I want proof.

So far, all I see is evidence he acted very strange in all sorts of ways, and there are accusers that have changed their stories and sought money before criminal charges, and offered no proof.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

My god, we've gone so far into hell, that the demons don't even try to hide their demonic faces, any more.

There used to be a quip along the lines of "Who wants to go to heaven and be bored, when you can go to hell and party!" but with all these festering, disgusting creatures destined to go there, no thanks. That's why as in life, and so in death, I will remain a ghost.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: shawmanfromny

He was not a pedophile or molested children. And both those idiots are known liars, in and out of court. And were wrong about a 'flood' of victims coming out crying and screaming after their 2015 accusations. Let the man rest. And Streisand should just keep her mouth shut.

He was a pederast. He found young male children sexually appealing.

Either way, streisand did open her mouth and revealed, much like most of her ilk, that entertaining yourself at the expense of a child, is OK. But if they had killed themselves, oh then it would be a bit of a bother.

Her entire industry embraced this sort of thing. I hope that now, it is different, and simply not hidden further from prying eyes. You can be seen to take a stand, but it is the idea that remains.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lumenari

Prove it. The man was under FBI surveillance for over a decade, raided his home TWICE, and they didn't find ONE shred of evidence leading them to believe he had any sort of sexual attraction to children. In fact, they found mounds of heterosexual porn, and lots of user names to porn sites, all heterosexual, and not to mention, the FBI didn't find anything, they even just handed the nothing case to the sheriffs department which they release, but OOPS no one cared at that point.

Stop reading lies.

Well, one victim accurately described his penis.

But no, no evidence.

a reply to: Grambler

Well he cannot speak now. And what evidence would suffice? Video evidence? If not the victims own accusations, over allegations that have gone on for decades, where he paid families millions to settle out of court, rather than defend himself against the allegations, then what now, would be evidence.

If anyone today, without fame and fortune, were found in a bedroom with multiple pre teenage boys, with wine close by, there would be a pitch fork party towards them. But it was MJ, so we must assume innocent. The facts, and allegations do not count, because we do not have definitive proof.

I wonder how any child molesters are caught then, if not from allegations.. where the perpetrator does not have the means to sully the outcome.

And lets not forget that the parents of these children were no different than those that let their little girls dress up like cabaret dancers on a stage and gyrate, it's all about the fame. Turn a blind eye to the sexualisation of their own kids, to claim status.

Sine qua non, he slept with children.

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: dollukka

This is exactly like the kavanaigh argument

Kavanaugh drank alot. He had girls around alot. he made crude sexual jokes about women. So put two and two together, and clearly he tried to rape women.

Sorry, I want proof.

So far, all I see is evidence he acted very strange in all sorts of ways, and there are accusers that have changed their stories and sought money before criminal charges, and offered no proof.

Being around your peers and engaging in the same antics as everyone did at the time, that everyone in the country did, is not the same as an adult male drinking wine, taking pills and sleeping in a bed with children.

Not even remotely.

Sometimes that cigar, is absolutely a cigar.

a reply to: Grambler

Bad deeds tend to bound back eventually. In my country a celebrity gay was just recently found guilty in child abuse which had happened 20 years ago, childs name now adult was never published, there is a rumour that this celebritys ex partner might had been that child at the time as they did have this 20 years apart. They broke up in bad terms and this ex partner asked some money from this celebrity or else... time passed and now ceb. has been found guilty. In tv show they both were in, they mentioned and giggled that they had met long before the younger one was full of age.

What comes around goes around

Like in previous case if money is not given anymore to keep mouth shut.. the book opens up. These guys in both cases know the value of the money it doesn´t take away the fact they were abused when they were just a boys.

Boys who have talked about MJ and also MJ´s own kids are messed up. Specially those who has celebrity status as that status is all they are protecting when they talk MJ nicely.

a reply to: Grambler
Ok. Fair enough. I'll just judge him on what's been proven. He shares his bed with little boys. That's all I need to form my opinion. And it's not a good one. A grown man, on drugs and alcohol, has little boy sleepovers and pays the parents. That should be enough for anyone to see he's already gone too far. And it requires no stretch of the imagination to anticipate where it leads. He has little boys in his bed, and as a result, multiple people have accused him of sexual and pedopheliac deeds. All signs point to him being a criminal boy diddler. But you're right. There's no smoking gun and the victims were children with malleable memories. Money can cover up anything and it has a way of keeping voices silent. Keep defending his honor and keep assuming the victims are lying. His music is worth the ignorance to some people, I suppose.

There's a man in my bushes, wearing a ski mask, crowbar in his hand, and a large duffel bag. I have no proof of his intentions but I know he's up to no good or else he wouldn't be in that situation. But if he was a musical genius then I shouldn't assume he's going to rob my house and he just likes innocently hiding in my bushes.

If what Wade Robson is saying now is true - when is he going to be done for lying in court?

All children should be made aware that lying in court is a crime that will be punished.

I don't believe Michael Jackson did what he is accused of.

How many children visited Neverland a week, I wonder?

How many have now come forward and claimed MJ abused them?

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lumenari

Prove it. The man was under FBI surveillance for over a decade, raided his home TWICE, and they didn't find ONE shred of evidence leading them to believe he had any sort of sexual attraction to children. In fact, they found mounds of heterosexual porn, and lots of user names to porn sites, all heterosexual, and not to mention, the FBI didn't find anything, they even just handed the nothing case to the sheriffs department which they release, but OOPS no one cared at that point.

Stop reading lies.

Well, one victim accurately described his penis.

But no, no evidence.

So why was it not used as evidence in court?

Jordan Chandker refused to testify in 2005......so it was thrown out.

And the description did not match either.........Michael was not circumcised.... but Jordan said he was.

a reply to: strongfp

We will never know the truth but it wasn't right what he did and anyone sticking up for the loon isn't right in the head.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

She's a million years old. She probably did lose her mind!

originally posted by: MyToxicTash
a reply to: strongfp

We will never know the truth but it wasn't right what he did and anyone sticking up for the loon isn't right in the head.

What did he do?

The FBI investigated MJ and he was found not guilty in court.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Just sleeping with kids alone when your a grown man is enough for me.
He got away with that because he is famous.

a reply to: MyToxicTash

Sleeping is not a crime.