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originally posted by: ausername
Nah, ultimately he's just an unwitting pawn in the democrats game of vengeance against Trump and everyone involved in his winning the 2016 election, ruining their plans for the preordained coronation of Hillary Clinton and Her glorious reign as queen of the USA.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Mach2
Obama insulted/scolded SCOTUS in a globally broadcast State of the Union Address, while they were sitting directly in front of him. They didn't like that at all.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Mach2
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut
Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.
What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?
The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.
An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.
The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.
You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.
The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.
... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.
Good God man!
If we took that attitude NO ONE would EVER qualify. My how do you get this far up there?
originally posted by: Jobeycool
Well this is never gonna work......like the Wild Wild West of media and congress free for all...with the new social gadgets..
originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: Jobeycool
Yeah, thats exactly what this country needs, a secret commitee......SMH
Trump would have been impeached if He did a major crime....this stuff is such silly nonsense and hatred that severe discipline needs to be dished out at MSM and Congress.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Mach2
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut
Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.
What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?
The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.
An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.
The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.
You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.
The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.
... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.
Good God man!
If we took that attitude NO ONE would EVER qualify. My how do you get this far up there?
Well, where do we draw the line. Do we excuse someone of crimes just because they have a rank or status of some sort?
Or do we apply the law equally for all people?
That is not saying that Trump is guilty of crimes. He may be innocent beyond reproach. But we could never know without some sort of investigation into those who hold power.
Investigation to establish an absence of criminality should be mandatory for those who could potentially bankrupt a country, be corrupt and self acquisitive, or start a war.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: chr0naut
I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?
Cohen was convicted of campaign fraud.
Just admit you got played. This is ridiculously embarrassing at this point.
Believe what you will.
That is what you are doing, believe what you will and TO HELL with facts. You don't need no stinkin facts! Well I do.
originally posted by: VoiceOfTheEmperor
a reply to: shooterbrody
I never said they were charged with anything else. When other crimes are discovered during an investigation, it's not uncommon to charge them to incentivise cooperation with said investigation. Why do you think they were pinched in the first place? To make them cooperating witnesses. That's just law enforcement investigation 101.
The truth is, no one knows what the report says ATM, and it's hilarious to see EVERYONE (both sides) jumping to conclusions.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: chr0naut
I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?
Cohen was convicted of campaign fraud.
Just admit you got played. This is ridiculously embarrassing at this point.
Believe what you will.
That is what you are doing, believe what you will and TO HELL with facts. You don't need no stinkin facts! Well I do.
Mueller's recommendations have not been publicly published.
We don't have all the facts.
originally posted by: Jobeycool
Trump would have been impeached if He did a major crime....this stuff is such silly nonsense and hatred that severe discipline needs to be dished out at MSM and Congress.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Mach2
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut
Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.
What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?
The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.
An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.
The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.
You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.
The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.
... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.
Good God man!
If we took that attitude NO ONE would EVER qualify. My how do you get this far up there?
Well, where do we draw the line. Do we excuse someone of crimes just because they have a rank or status of some sort?
Or do we apply the law equally for all people?
That is not saying that Trump is guilty of crimes. He may be innocent beyond reproach. But we could never know without some sort of investigation into those who hold power.
Investigation to establish an absence of criminality should be mandatory for those who could potentially bankrupt a country, be corrupt and self acquisitive, or start a war.
originally posted by: Jobeycool
Has to be new rules put into place,or this will lead to a civil war...
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: chr0naut
I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?
Cohen was convicted of campaign fraud.
Just admit you got played. This is ridiculously embarrassing at this point.
Believe what you will.
That is what you are doing, believe what you will and TO HELL with facts. You don't need no stinkin facts! Well I do.
Mueller's recommendations have not been publicly published.
We don't have all the facts.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: Mach2
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut
Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.
What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?
The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.
An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.
The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.
You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.
The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.
... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.
Good God man!
If we took that attitude NO ONE would EVER qualify. My how do you get this far up there?
Well, where do we draw the line. Do we excuse someone of crimes just because they have a rank or status of some sort?
Or do we apply the law equally for all people?