NO COLLUSION - Special Counsel Mueller has submitted report to AG Barr...it's over folks

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: UKTruth

The reason we should NOT see the report is because there may be details in there that can be skewed and propagandised. Circumstantial evidence that amounts to nothing,

Your opinion.

Sure - but a pretty accurate one, unless you want to lie and pretend that people like Adam Schiff will not pick the bones out of the report and conclude treason at the mere hint of any discussion about Russia in it. You know as well I know that is exactly what he will do.
Just like Trump's tax returns, the media machine simply wants the headline, regardless of substance.

Why do you want to see the report..? As I asked another poster. Be specific.

Jumping in here, after getting some sleep.

I don't, personally, need to see the report, as I don't believe it contains any great revelations.

I do think the final analysis needs to be made public, and investigation of how we were led down this path to begin with ensue.

There is also the fact that 40 million dollars of taxpayer $ was spent on something that, apparently, had no basis in fact. We taxpayers, absolutely have a right to have it made public on rhat basis alone.

That being said, the underlying documents, supporting the conclusions, should not be made public. The lives of many families have been negatively affected for no good reason already.

a reply to: UKTruth

I'm talking about the report that you people keep talking about as if you read it. Not what ISN'T part of it.

Try reading next time

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

The crime was Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections. There was no doubt that it occurred. It was alleged that individuals from the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians. There were many indictments and convictions to that effect as a result of the investigation.

And the Obama administration was also talking to the same Russian ambassador at the same time that those in the Trump administration were talking to them... ITS WHAT GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DO...

The only collusion is the fact that Democrats/Liberals used fake claims from the Russians through a foreign agent who stated plainly he wanted to stop Trump from becoming or being President... Steele as a foreign agent tried to influence the U.S. elections... He should be indited and sent to prison in the U.S....

Not to mention the fact that that info was paid off by the political opposition to Trump as they tried to influence our elections with lies... Learn to write the truth, or keep on drinking that kool-aid of lies you seem to love. But don't post those lies as truth because they are not...

More importantly there were zero indictments for meeting with Russians. Makes sense, as there is nothing wrong, criminally or politically, with meetig Russians.

The left tried to criminalise politics and they did it using partisan actors within the walls of govt. That is the scandal that now needs focus and leads directly to Obama and Clintons doors.

a reply to: RazorV66

None of this has anything to do with impeachment.

The congress does not have to rely on the muller report to impeach.

You think this report is going to stop those on the left who are calling for impeachment to quit?

a reply to: uninspired

Look up the number of sealed indictments over the last two years and ask yourself how many of those came from muller's office.

a reply to: nightmare_david

Yeah "talk about ignorance..." The conclusion of the report was already given... NO COLLUSION BETWEEN POTUS TRUMP OR HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGERS WITH RUSSIA...

Not to mention the fact that Jerome Corsi was pressured to sign a deal which would have put him in prison, but since he knew he did nothing wrong he did not sign the deal and all of a sudden all charges were dropped against him and Corsi is now a free man... Mueller tried to pressure Corsi, like he pressured others including Gen. Flynn, to give something about Trump but it has backfired...

Now Corsi is suing Mueller. Mueller in fact used extortion by claiming he could jail Corsi when Corsi never did anything wrong...

Jerome Corsi Just Sued Robert Mueller for $350 Million

Mueller and company thought they could pressure Corsi like they pressured Gen. Flynn, but in Flynn's case Mueller threatened Flynn's son which is underhanded and should have landed Mueller in prison for doing that alone...

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: RazorV66

You think this report is going to stop those on the left who are calling for impeachment to quit?

Of course not.. they will continue to lie to people and propagandise. That is what they do.
Their job is just that bit harder now as we know that neither Trump or anyone in his campaign conspired with Russia to rig the election.
Given there are not even any indictments for the hack of the DNC and Podesta, we are not even left with any proof that the Russians did that.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

They can talk about it all they want, but they won't find much support from the American ppl, or the Republicans in the senate, as they absolutely would have, if Mueller had actually found anything.

That is the important difference, don't you think?

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: nightmare_david

Yeah "talk about ignorance..." The conclusion of the report was already given... NO COLLUSION BETWEEN POTUS TRUMP OR HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGERS WITH RUSSIA...

Not to mention the fact that Jerome Corsi was pressured to sign a deal which would have put him in prison, but since he knew he did nothing wrong he did not sign the deal and all of a sudden all charges were dropped against him and Corsi is now a free man... Mueller tried to pressure Corsi, like he pressured others including Gen. Flynn, to give something about Trump but it has backfired...

Now Corsi is suing Mueller. Mueller in fact used extortion by claiming he could jail Corsi when Corsi never did anything wrong...

Jerome Corsi Just Sued Robert Mueller for $350 Million

Mueller and company thought they could pressure Corsi like they pressured Gen. Flynn, but in Flynn's case Mueller threatened Flynn's son which is underhanded and should have landed Mueller in prison for doing that alone...

This is just the start of the fallout... Many people are going to face the music for their roles in the attempted coup.

originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: scraedtosleep

They can talk about it all they want, but they won't find much support from the American ppl, or the Republicans in the senate, as they absolutely would have, if Mueller had actually found anything.

That is the important difference, don't you think?

Good point - the idea that 20 Republicans in the Senate will side with Democrats to remove Trump even if he is impeached, is dead. Forever.
So the Dems could vote for impeachment in the house and have their show trial - but they will lose and it will make Trump stronger.
What I suspect they will do is drag out the propaganda for as long as possible so they can have their show trial in the run up to the 2020 election, though that would backfire too as I suspect the vast majority of the American people now understand what has taken place - a coup attempt.

originally posted by: nightmare_david
a reply to: UKTruth

I'm talking about the report that you people keep talking about as if you read it. Not what ISN'T part of it.

Try reading next time

Yeah, and everyone else is talking about the fact that there are no indictments for Trump or anyone in his campaign for conspiring with Russia...i.e. Trump and those on his campaign are innocent.

Try comprehending some time.

What do you guys think about this?
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2/ What we call the "Trump-Russia" investigation is a web of criminal, counterintelligence, and Congressional investigations that intersect with the work of the Special Counsel's Office. So there are three key "c"-words here—"criminal," "counterintelligence," and "Congressional." 3/ Special Counsel Mueller is part of the "criminal" investigation; Mueller's work *intersects* with the "counterintelligence" investigation; and his work feeds into and draws from the Congressional investigation. And here's the key: all three of these investigations are ongoing. 4/ As part of the "criminal" investigation, Mueller investigated some things his office then prosecuted; he investigated some things his office handed off to others; he investigated some things he chose not to prosecute; he investigated some things he is letting Congress handle. 5/ Mueller's "criminal" investigations—that is, the information he derived during his nearly 24 months of *criminal investigative work*—then fed directly into multiple "counterintelligence" investigations and will undoubtedly feed into many ongoing "Congressional" investigations. 6/ The news we got today is that Mueller will not *himself* be bringing any more indictments. That's it. That's *all* that has just happened. Any reporting that says the "Russia probe is done" is false. Any reporting that "Mueller's work is done" is false.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Pure speculation, and wishful thinking.

a reply to: Mach2

Which part specifically do you disagree with and why?

a reply to: UKTruth

You don't know that.

The senate republicans could read something in mullers report that they personally feel is grounds for impeachment.

I'm not saying they will, just that it's possible.

originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: scraedtosleep

They can talk about it all they want, but they won't find much support from the American ppl, or the Republicans in the senate, as they absolutely would have, if Mueller had actually found anything.

That is the important difference, don't you think?

Depends on what the muller report says and how each republican in congress personally feels.

a reply to: UKTruth

Why do you want to see the report..? As I asked another poster. Be specific.

Read my commits in this thread.

a reply to: UKTruth

But lets not forget, they're trading one security blanket for another. We still have the House probe led by ol' Shifty Schiff to go through now. You know, because "trust Mueller" wasn't REALLY a thing. They'll keep trying until someone gives them a made up story they can attempt to pass off AGAIN.