NO COLLUSION - Special Counsel Mueller has submitted report to AG Barr...it's over folks

originally posted by: Gin

The New Your Times - We Don’t Need to Read the Mueller Report

People lie to hide the truth. They lie to hide crimes. And while everyone is dying for a peek at Robert Mueller’s bombshell report to see if he says any crimes were committed by the Trump campaign in 2016, the truth is actually already out there, hidden in plain sight.

Mr. Mueller’s report may never go public, but we don’t need a peek at the recommendations he delivered on Friday to Attorney General William Barr to credibly assess that something unethical and likely illegal went on in 2016.

This doesn't surprise anyone does it? We all knew when Mueller was done all of a sudden the Mueller investigation wouldn't matter, wouldn't be believed, and the goalposts would be shifted once again.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Mach2
a reply to: chr0naut

Did you miss the "connected to Trump" requirement?

Don't post crap, and try to pass it off as something it is not.

It just shows desperation of having made a statement you cant back up.

Did you miss the bit where it describes the communications between the hacker group and a senior member of the Presidential campaign and that indicates an ongoing dialog between that person and the hackers?

I read that.

It doesnt say that amwerican was indicted as you claimed.

The following paragraph shows a reporter that was enganged in a dialogue with these russians. That isnt a crime either.

Rachel maddow was in contact with someone who illegally released one of trumps tax return. IS she guilty of a crime as well?

Its real simple.

No one connected to trump was indicted with any conspiring with russia involving the 2016 election, contrary to your claim.

You continue to post things that do not back up your claim.

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a reply to: chr0naut

Order 66....c'mon do you not have more than to quote a paragraph? A rebuttal of your own...something...c'mon!!!!

originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
Most of us already knew this when they were screaming collusion on the morning of November 9th, 2016.

Yes.. and especially when their pundits and pols just so happened to start finding "information" (not evidence or proof) that they could twist to fit their demented narrative.

They started connecting very odd and obscure pieces of junk information together - from dubious-at-best sources - to connect A->B->F->C->Z. Often times, the rabid anti-Trump pundits on CNN/MSNBC simply cited articles from each other without any real vetting, leg work AKA "journalism"

Sad part is journalism is still dead, today not withstanding

Regardless, to the number of Democrats who have finally seen the truth, I say this: Thank you. I wish you would have heard us soon, opportunists and outright liars took advantage of your outrage and farmed you for money/ratings. Con artists like Dworkin and Mensch (among many others) orchestrated a fraud against you, and you are not wrong to demand justice. Far-left Pols used the chaos to entrench themselves in our public offices (we have actual socialists embedded in American legislative positions now) and centrist Democrat Pols behaved like true political prostitutes by jumping on the Russia-24/7 bandwagon for their own advancement, relevancy and desire for celebrity (I'm looking at you Schiff, Feinstein, Waters, Nadler, etc etc etc).

I am ashamed of a large swath of government and sadly even the population. But to those who bravely stood up to those who continually harass, cajole and heckle you for doubting their ever-increasingly ridiculous Russia narrative I say "Thank you" from the bottom of my heart. Every time one of you tried to suggest Mueller's investigation would end in any thing other than impeachment/indictment you were shouted down and harassed by far-left socialist trash. Shame on the far left for the division they caused this country

And for what? None of their BS allegations/fishing expeditions/Clinton LOSING excuses were even true! None! You divided this country and took us the brink of a damn civil war for nothing least of which anything that benefited you in the slightest. If anything, it has majorly backfired by turning centrist moderate Democratic voters against the fringe far-left loudmouths trying to take the party and remake it in their image.

Dems, look at your 2020 playing field. Do you honestly think a single one of those protest candidates can beat Trump? Gabbard and Biden stand a chance, nominating anybody but one of them ensures you will lose in 2020 and have to "put up" with Trump for 4 more years. All things told, however, would that really be so bad?

The only thing they have left to try now is to pretend something is wrong when parts of the report are redacted. Everyone with a brain has known all along that parts of it would be redacted, as these things always are, because they contain classified information. Scum like Schiff will pretend that the redacted parts are where all the proof of collusion is, despite there being no further indictments recommended. Everyone will see right through that. It's predictable.

a reply to: chr0naut

You're embarrassing yourself, Chro. Heck, I feel embarrassed for you. No kidding. No collusion. Okay?

Room 39 in North Korea is busy today 😎

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

See Rosensteins statement
It is in english
Quit with the lies

Rosenstein is already out of the picture and Barr is in his place.

We are discussing Mueller's investigation.

I posted a link to an indictment document in the case. Paragraph 44 is clear.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'll give you that one, on a technicality, but from your own link:

"There is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government’s charges against Mr. Cohen."

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

See Rosensteins statement
It is in english
Quit with the lies

Rosenstein is already out of the picture and Barr is in his place.

We are discussing Mueller's investigation.

I posted a link to an indictment document in the case. Paragraph 44 is clear.

Paragraph 44 does not show any American indicted, let alone someone connected to trumps campaign.

Why are your pretending it does?

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: chr0naut

I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?

Cohen was convicted of campaign fraud.

Just admit you got played. This is ridiculously embarrassing at this point.

Believe what you will.

a reply to: face23785

What happens when they release it all and it shows the true collusion? I have thought about that. I mean, there is nothing to me that should be redacted because the sitting president is not involved and it occurred before he was in office.

This is not laughing matter for those who were screaming collusion or who are attached to those who were indicted....Democrats who are connected not Republicans.

Barr should do the right thing and release it all...if not, let the heads explode.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: chr0naut

I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?

Cohen was convicted of campaign fraud.

Just admit you got played. This is ridiculously embarrassing at this point.

Believe what you will.

I don't have to believe anything. Everyone here can see pretty plainly that you know you got played and are just too arrogant to admit it. I'll give you props for even coming into this thread to receive your thrashing. Most of those who got fooled by this charade the past 2 years will be absent for a while I reckon.

a reply to: chr0naut

It is not about belief...but truth. What can be proven and who can not be. There is no collusion. Never was but the American Public was lied to for two years.

Almost as if it was 'planned' this way to drain the swamp. Think of ALL of those who were behind the collusion story. Anyone who is, now, cannot be trusted. It was fabrication to try to take down a sitting POTUS and it failed. He went after no one and let it happen.

Bill was impeached...and his wife is going to be indicted....

I wonder if they were able to look at Donald Trump's tax returns as a part of the investigation?

a reply to: face23785

Agreed, we don't need the report to see the crimes of rogue elements within DOJ/FBI and the intel community. We also know of Hillary's blatant crimes, as well as those who conspired to overthrow the Presidency based on known-lies and information from dubious partisan sources peddled and passed off - fraudulently - as actual intelligence product.

There are some "true believers" that are still peddling this nonsense, but the vast majority have simply accepted reality and are going back to focusing on 2020

I am sure this will dominate the headlines for a few more days, but in the end I don't intend to take my eye off the prize until Trump is celebrating his re-election

Schiff said he will subpoena Mueller.

OMFG

The politicians have gone reee.

They have gone full-on reeeee.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

See Rosensteins statement
It is in english
Quit with the lies

Rosenstein is already out of the picture and Barr is in his place.

We are discussing Mueller's investigation.

I posted a link to an indictment document in the case. Paragraph 44 is clear.

You should research a bit.
Rosenstein is still employed.
Your facts are not facts.
Your posts look ridiculous.

Its over.
Trump is still potus.

originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: matafuchs
Investigating the campaign
investigating the foundation
investigating the business
investigating the transition
investigating the white house...2 years and millions of dollars

finding nothing.....priceless....

Voters will NOT forget this. They did not in 2016. Midterms swayed the centrist voter but we lost nothing and gained in the Senate. 2020, if Trump can take back the house and flush some more RINO's, will be a dream scenario for true Americans.

Impeach this....

Based upon?

Americans don't like tax dollars taken from them for absolutely nothing. We're actually kinda independent because of it...

The Mueller investigation has arguably recovered more money than it has lost.

Not having stopped those fraudsters would have cost the economy even more in the long term, too as there was no indication that their crimes were one-off occurrences.