NO COLLUSION - Special Counsel Mueller has submitted report to AG Barr...it's over folks

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.

You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.

The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.

... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.

a reply to: Mach2

Perjury. It is going to happen. It will make him an 'enemy of the state', I can see the CNN lead in now, but it will happen.

a reply to: conspiracy nut

Name one conviction that had anything to do with the campaign? Now, I can name someone who was NOT charged the same as Manafort but they have already been referred to the DOJ from the SDNY.

a reply to: chr0naut

what allegations?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.

You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.

The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.

... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.

Ok so what is the cirteria for "allegations" that require special counsels, spying, raiding lawyers in the middle of the night, etc?

I am sure trump can pay some foreigners to make allegations about any democrat running against him, so surely we need midnight raids, spying by the fbi, looking at crimes from decades past, special counsels, etc. on all of the dems that trump can pay to get allegations about.

After all, we need to make sure to resolve those allegations as well, right?

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.

You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.

The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.

... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.

Ok so what is the cirteria for "allegations" that require special counsels, spying, raiding lawyers in the middle of the night, etc?

I am sure trump can pay some foreigners to make allegations about any democrat running against him, so surely we need midnight raids, spying by the fbi, looking at crimes from decades past, special counsels, etc. on all of the dems that trump can pay to get allegations about.

After all, we need to make sure to resolve those allegations as well, right?

Allegations against the left need not be resolved.......figured you would know this by now

a reply to: matafuchs

originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

The point of investigation is to make a provable court case.

You investigate the crime. That is not what happened here. Here they found dog crap on the sidewalk, then attributed to Trump, even though he had never been in that part of town.

The number of convicted felons he brought with him says otherwise.

... and he had allegations directly against him that needed to be resolved.

Ok so what is the cirteria for "allegations" that require special counsels, spying, raiding lawyers in the middle of the night, etc?

I am sure trump can pay some foreigners to make allegations about any democrat running against him, so surely we need midnight raids, spying by the fbi, looking at crimes from decades past, special counsels, etc. on all of the dems that trump can pay to get allegations about.

After all, we need to make sure to resolve those allegations as well, right?

Allegations against the left need not be resolved.......figured you would know this by now

Oh I know.

It would be refreshing to hear a Democrat admit it though.

Dana Perino just made a good point. People should be relieved. The Special Counsel investigated for 2 years and found out the fears about Trump being some kind of Russian plant were unfounded. That's great for America, but bad for Democrats. Party before country, sadly.

Scum.

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now the AG should begin building the case against the clique of insiders who created and planted Fake Evidence which was meant to perpetrate a fraudulent Impeachment of an Elected POTUS/VP

originally posted by: St Udio
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now the AG should begin building the case against the clique of insiders who created and planted Fake Evidence which was meant to perpetrate a fraudulent Impeachment of an Elected POTUS/VP

Agreed. Now is the time to go on offense. Trump has let this take it's course, and it is now over. Time to flush out the traitors.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: matafuchs

Leftist heads will be exploding all across the land.

And it will be glorious!

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm trying to stay independent but man I hope so. I'm really excited to see the reaction if its no collusion.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

To investigate there must be a crime.
Otherwise what is being investigated?
An investigation uncovers who committed the crime.

The crime was Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections. There was no doubt that it occurred. It was alleged that individuals from the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians. There were many indictments and convictions to that effect as a result of the investigation.

a reply to: face23785

Exactly. 13 million people just became Trump voters against the DNC in 2020....

I'm just as interested to see the final tally of what this debacle cost the tax payers. Heads should roll and the Democrats should be made to pay for this charade..

Now Schiff can start his investigations proper. He has all of the info Mueller was able to dig up that the SC couldn't prosecute as it was outside the scope.

If you think the investigations are over you'd be wrong.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

To investigate there must be a crime.
Otherwise what is being investigated?
An investigation uncovers who committed the crime.

The crime was Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections. There was no doubt that it occurred. It was alleged that individuals from the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians. There were many indictments and convictions to that effect as a result of the investigation.

Show me one indictment that shows anyone connected to trump conspiring with russians in the 2016 election.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'll ask again since you peddle bull#. Which of those convictions had anything to do with the Trump campaign?

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

To investigate there must be a crime.
Otherwise what is being investigated?
An investigation uncovers who committed the crime.

The crime was Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections. There was no doubt that it occurred. It was alleged that individuals from the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians. There were many indictments and convictions to that effect as a result of the investigation.

Show me one indictment that shows anyone connected to trump conspiring with russians in the 2016 election.

Several people on this thread have been asked that already, none have responded. Because they have nothing, and they can't deal with reality as it comes crashing in on them.

ETA: If mental gymnastics were an Olympics event, we could send some of the board members here, and gold is guaranteed.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

Then he should be charged and prosecuted. In America we investigate crimes, not people in the hopes of finding a crime.

What is the point of investigation if we already know a crime has been committed and who the guilty party is?

The rule is 'innocent until proven guilty', and that determination of guilt happens in a court of law, and well after the investigation.

An investigation does not equal guilt, just like an allegation does not equal guilt.

To investigate there must be a crime.
Otherwise what is being investigated?
An investigation uncovers who committed the crime.

The crime was Russian interference in the 2016 US Presidential elections. There was no doubt that it occurred. It was alleged that individuals from the Trump campaign had conspired with the Russians. There were many indictments and convictions to that effect as a result of the investigation.

Show me one indictment that shows anyone connected to trump conspiring with russians in the 2016 election.

I am so sick of this BS. Not one indictment was about Russian Collusion with the Trump team.....yet, still, they grab onto it like their very life depends on it........