Marine Corps commandant says deploying troops to the border poses ‘unacceptable risk’

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Lumenari

I, on the other hand, clearly need the defensive assist.

He brought up McCAIN as a patriot.

I reserve the right to reply on that topic as a Veteran.

You obviously needed no help at all.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire
What are you saying? McCains honor went to # when he took that photo op with the cannibal child killers in Syria. This was not no simple Halloween black face or pretending to be another race, this was straight up association with very brutal killer humans. Terrorists!

And whatever your opinion of the guy, what he said is 100% accurate.

Gyrine needs to suck it up.

I've had plenty of orders I didn't like, still did it because I was a god-damned soldier, not a whine baby Nancy-boy.

The main unacceptable risk I see in putting marines on the border is that immigrants will be seen as nails. I understand that having around 3000 new migrants each day is putting stress on America.

Is digging mass grave sites really the answer? What sort of geopolitical stress would this create?

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Let me think here a minute. Ah, he must be a commie. No a socialist, Maybe suffering from TDS. No that must be fake news of maybe just a typo.

Nah, he just hates America!!

This would be one of the Generals that Obama replaced under his reign.

Sounds like he is concerned that too many drains on the budget might jeopardize the effectiveness of the marines. A legitimate concern. Nowhere in his letter does he say that the diversion of money to the border wall is the only reason, just a contributing factor. Also, there is cost to boosting the security at the border because of the caravans, caravans that the Democrats and some of their supporters seem to be involved in funding.

What is that unfunded aqueous freeforming foam upgrade all about anyway? Sounds like an expensive change in some sort of mandatory change they have to do.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yep, you are Trump's puppy alright. He disparaging the memory of a dead man and you tearing down a man who has served proudly for 49 years. Keep stooping low burd.

First of all, McCain said himself he was not a hero, he was a POW. That is different. McCain was also a warmonger, there are others like him in this country though, his kind is not that rare. Since he no longer had to get in the line of fire anymore, he figured others need to be. I am not fond of McCain, but he did have a lot of people where he was from that liked him. I would guess he had lost a lot of support from those who elected him because he was not backing the republican party in the end. I think it was the tumor myself that made him go left too much.

a reply to: kwakakev

Is digging mass grave sites really the answer?

Wasn't that standard operating procedure of the Serbian Police in Yugoslavia in the 90's or even as far back as Hitlers SS?.

Marines would stoop to this?

This thread mostly reads like a bunch of old dudes at the American Legion post sitting around trying to convince each other how tough their two year hitch in Germany was in the 80s lol

Neller isn’t talking about not following orders like a Nancy boy. He’s talking about how spending money to send Marines to Texas to put up some jersey barriers and make sure border patrol has water instead of sending troops to Asia to conduct joint-force combined arms exercises has an impact on combat readiness. Because training for combat makes one ready for combat. Putting up a fence makes one good at putting up fences.

Camp Lejeune got hammered by hurricane Florence and is still deep into recovering from it. Pulling money away from recovery efforts doesn’t exactly help.

Maybe rather than reading this through the liberal lens the LA Times and the media gave you, you could try reading it as “if we’re gonna go put up jersey barriers in Texas, we need more money to be able to also continue training for actual combat and put a roof over the heads of people at Lejeune.”

originally posted by: Shamrock6
This thread mostly reads like a bunch of old dudes at the American Legion post sitting around trying to convince each other how tough their two year hitch in Germany was in the 80s lol

Neller isn’t talking about not following orders like a Nancy boy. He’s talking about how spending money to send Marines to Texas to put up some jersey barriers and make sure border patrol has water instead of sending troops to Asia to conduct joint-force combined arms exercises has an impact on combat readiness. Because training for combat makes one ready for combat. Putting up a fence makes one good at putting up fences.

Camp Lejeune got hammered by hurricane Florence and is still deep into recovering from it. Pulling money away from recovery efforts doesn’t exactly help.

Maybe rather than reading this through the liberal lens the LA Times and the media gave you, you could try reading it as “if we’re gonna go put up jersey barriers in Texas, we need more money to be able to also continue training for actual combat and put a roof over the heads of people at Lejeune.”

WTF man, where have you been, the most urgent national crisis is here right now at the southern border, that's what our troops are trained and payed for, you know protection and stuff, the Texas Chainsaw massacre is evidence enough builders are dangerous.

One thing he's right about is the border being too dangerous and risky. Time to clean that area up and lock it down.

a reply to: neo96
What you saying? It's not a domestic problem at all. Foreign nationals are trying to enter the US illegally. I would call that an international problem.

a reply to: rickymouse

McCain, either way is a DEAD MAN....and Trump can not just leave it alone. For all the things he might be doing carrying on a feud with a dead man should be far far far down his list. How can people not get this. Can they only get in on Trump's bunny hop dance and march along after him? Myself, I was never a McCain acolyte, I agreed with his statement that he was not a hero but rather a prisoner. Then he took the hoopla over his return alive to use it to get his job in the government. But now, he is DEAD

And this general. People point out that he was appointed by Obama. Oh my god, Obama did it. That is such a lazy lazy way to do the bunny hop, when it also seems that each and everyone that Trump disagrees with is turned into some kind of failed nincompoop. Can you not see that? Why am I even talking with you if you cannot see that.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Marines would stoop to this?

It is more about what marines are trained to do. Bring them in changes things to that of martial law. Just what do you expect them to do if there is a big crowd and things are tense? All it takes is one loud sound for the rain of thunder to begin.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: rickymouse

McCain, either way is a DEAD MAN....and Trump can not just leave it alone. For all the things he might be doing carrying on a feud with a dead man should be far far far down his list. How can people not get this. Can they only get in on Trump's bunny hop dance and march along after him? Myself, I was never a McCain acolyte, I agreed with his statement that he was not a hero but rather a prisoner. Then he took the hoopla over his return alive to use it to get his job in the government. But now, he is DEAD

And this general. People point out that he was appointed by Obama. Oh my god, Obama did it. That is such a lazy lazy way to do the bunny hop, when it also seems that each and everyone that Trump disagrees with is turned into some kind of failed nincompoop. Can you not see that? Why am I even talking with you if you cannot see that.

I read the words that Trump had said and I did not see them as bashing McCain. Maybe a little disrespectful, but nothing that should have been blown up like it has been. I can see McCain's daughter and wife being a little upset, but not the pile of people who are BSed into believing he is the devil for his evil statements. A person who has just experienced a loss like the McCains, I can see them being a little ired. Trump kind of made it about himself with his remarks, he should have not even mentioned that he helped out, people need to see that by themselves. Trump is on the defense, everything he says is twisted and because he is on the defense, he put his foot in his mouth again. If he were just to ignore the MSM shills, they would sooner or later destroy themselves. Shills and Trolls always wind up destroying themselves.

But trolls and shills rarely die, once they get caught, they move on and bug someone else. or in the case of MSM they fire someone then restart with another troll or shill instead of an actual news reporter.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: neo96
What you saying? It's not a domestic problem at all. Foreign nationals are trying to enter the US illegally. I would call that an international problem.

You are completely correct, this is not a domestic problem, citizens of other countries are coming here illegally, and some of them are criminals or come here with the intent to take advantage of Americans. Good Hispanics can apply for citizenship, if there were not so many illegals crossing to deal with, maybe we could have more money available to take care of legal immigration or work passes for those who want to work here.

originally posted by: Lumenari

He brought up McCAIN as a patriot.

I reserve the right to reply on that topic as a Veteran.

You obviously needed no help at all.

Lets let the man rest... Never liked the guy as a republican and I have known people that were in the camp with him, so don't get me started...he is a dead horse now, so not going to kick it.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: rickymouse

McCain, either way is a DEAD MAN....and Trump can not just leave it alone.

Well the man did kill Trump's Health Care Freedom Act with his one vote by standing with the dems, so I would say there is some recent history for Trump to see him as a Republican traitor.

a reply to: Xtrozero
Certainly. And I would agree if I believed in an Imperial Presidency, but I don't. An American citizen entrusted with the political power to represent their interests voted his conscience and for tht he should be held with respect. That is unless we believe in that Imperial Presidency where might makes right and all must toe the masters line.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Xtrozero
Certainly. And I would agree if I believed in an Imperial Presidency, but I don't. An American citizen entrusted with the political power to represent their interests voted his conscience and for tht he should be held with respect. That is unless we believe in that Imperial Presidency where might makes right and all must toe the masters line.

Imperial Presidency, WTF are you talking about, you making crap up?... the Dems went 100% vote against, McCain could of made it pass or fail and he went with the fail. Is 100% against toeing the line?