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originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Lumenari
my point is that if she broke a law, then both links in the opening post would have stated it to be so.
if she broke a law then she should be held accountable for it.
but after a senate committee hearing and hours of testimony, she was found not guilty of wrong doing.
did i miss something here?
a link to where she was found guilty of a crime would be nice.
originally posted by: ManFromEurope
You might not like me or my opinions, and you will not give stars (and I do not care) but you should NOT neglect to read about the misfits on Donalds' team!
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: xuenchen
i looked at the link.
it did not say a law had been broken.
it did not say a crime had been committed.
so what is it that we are suppose to get from this article?
Where's the crime?
originally posted by: Krakatoa
Now, why would someone that has signed and been granted a security clearance (which involves knowing why and how to treat classified information under penalty of law) be conversing about classified topics or putting classified information into an unsecured communications channel A method which is strictly forbidden as part of that signed security clearance?
originally posted by: Krakatoa
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For clarity, a more accurate phrase would be, "Emails containing classified information or topics". Since the privater server was not under govt control, there was no way for them to be reviewed and marked classified for their content. Had they been sent on a secured server, that would have happened.
Now, why would someone that has signed and been granted a security clearance (which involves knowing why and how to treat classified information under penalty of law) be conversing about classified topics or putting classified information into an unsecured communications channel A method which is strictly forbidden as part of that signed security clearance?
originally posted by: Steveogold
a reply to: Lumenari
sorry just asking is this what is called double jeopardy
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Lumenari
my point is that if she broke a law, then both links in the opening post would have stated it to be so.
if she broke a law then she should be held accountable for it.
but after a senate committee hearing and hours of testimony, she was found not guilty of wrong doing.
did i miss something here?
a link to where she was found guilty of a crime would be nice.
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
While what you say is true, she is the ultimately responsible party for any and all actions undertaken at her behest. Whilst individuals are responsible for their own actions which violate the law (Hoteham & Cooper setting up the domain and email addresses, Pagliano maintaining the server, etc.), Hillary was the head of the State Department and each use of the system to transmit information deemed to have been classified was a violation of the law.
The only reason she was given a pass was because the Department of Justice told the FBI investigators that it did not matter what was found, no prosecution would take place. Comey's statement merely told us that what she did was wrong, but because it was Hillary, they weren't going to hold her responsible.
originally posted by: vinifalou
So let me get this straight...
Hillary used a private server to send and receive classified information to foreign powers, which is against the law, and she signed a document stating she was aware of that, then lied under oath stating she didn't remembered signing it.
Then, the ex-FBI director James Phony, did not recommend her to be charged on that because, in his words, "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case" against her.
This only a few days after Bill Clinton met with the AG Loretta Lynch in a private meeting in an airport.
All of these stated above are facts proven over and over again and yet people can't connect the dots because of their extreme BIAS, and now you looney leftists are saying she did nothing wrong and that we shouldn't look at her e-mails in the first place?
Man, it's getting hard to keep up with the TDS. Far-leftists on ATS are starting to support breaking the laws as long as it goes against the Trump agenda.
In September 2, 2010, email exchange marked classified, longtime Clinton confidante Lanny Davis tells Secretary Clinton that he could serve as a private channel for her to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu...
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: subfab
a reply to: Lumenari
my point is that if she broke a law, then both links in the opening post would have stated it to be so.
if she broke a law then she should be held accountable for it.
but after a senate committee hearing and hours of testimony, she was found not guilty of wrong doing.
did i miss something here?
a link to where she was found guilty of a crime would be nice.
Senate hearing does not indict people, or determine whether someone is guilty or innocent. They are done for facts finding only and so what you are saying is if they didn't find anything in the hearing then she is innocent on all account possible? I wounder if the FBI and 5 other alphabet agencies did a two year investigation if they come to the same conclusion as you.
You need to understand we are still at the facts finding point and new emails coming forward mean new facts, and if the new email contradicts what she said under oath then we have a problem. This is not to mention she has broken so many security laws that a E-2 in the military would be in Leavenworth for anyone of them, so there is a level of entitlement as she is in the entitled range to have this all over looked as a non-issue.
But as many here have said...as further facts come forward we will see... Hearings ask a lot of questions then they compare them to facts to see if they match up...that is where we are right now..