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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
It is scary how people on the right don't call out scum in their own ideology.
originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You just don't understand. Hitler and Marx didn't fully understand the TRUE meaning of Socialism!
But our brilliant Marxist college Profs finally got it tweaked to perfection and come hell or high water we will force it upon the rest of you until YOU understand it's OUR WAY or off to the GULAGS!
originally posted by: Nucleardoom
Whether you think ecofacism exists or not is completely irrelevant, the nut THOUGHT he was one by HIS own admission, so yes it DOES indeed exist in the minds of some.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Who cares what he wrote in his "manifesto "?
The guy indiscriminately executed 50 innocent people, he was clearly as crazy as they come... Any detailed political opinions he expressed, were obviously always going to be all over the road!
Fact is though, his underlying motivation for doing what he did, was inspired by extremist LEFT-ideology.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Oh dear.
National Socialist in nature which includes the ideas of "worker's rights, the radical environmentalism the nazis were known
Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.
The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".
Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.
Don't let titles confuse the reality.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Oh dear.
National Socialist in nature which includes the ideas of "worker's rights, the radical environmentalism the nazis were known
Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.
The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".
Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.
Don't let titles confuse the reality.
You misread history.
Why is that? Your education was tainted. I suggest you take this to heart and study further. You will find y
ou're way off base.
originally posted by: alldaylong
Oh dear.
Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.
originally posted by: alldaylong
The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".
Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.
Don't let titles confuse the reality.
The fact that the far-right party contained 'socialist' in the name was a rebranding gambit to draw workers away from communism and into populist nationalism
originally posted by: alldaylong
I think you can join this mob.
originally posted by: cenpuppie
a reply to: neo96
We are convinced that socialism in the right sense will only be possible in nations and races that are Aryan, and there in the first place we hope for our own people and are convinced that socialism is inseparable from nationalism.
Hilarious. The Nazi's are/were left, no right, far left, far right. No there where this!
Meanwhile, let's ignore that Hitler implicitly stated that it only works for white people. That sounds both left and right, as a matter of fact, neither.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
originally posted by: alldaylong
I think you can join this mob.
Thanks, but no... Change "race" for "left-wing belief" and you would be the one joining them gladly...
They didn't just have "socialist" in their party name... They had socialist policies and laws... But like always left-wingers like yourself can't admit facts.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Telos
Good thread
S & F
Whilst I think the words left-wing and right-wing are past their use by date ( see Obamas Law legalizing propaganda ), here is my assessment.
The rise of people power demanding of their politicans an end to Globalists ideals ( unfettered immigration ) and the recent Brexit impasse is troubling for the elites. They've used Facebook and Twitter to shut down discussions but its not working. People are wising up the world over.
In Europe the other nations have had enough and more Nationalist parties gain seats in Spain Italy and Greece elections.
The mass murderer has been "good for the narrative". Disarming one of the few countries left that still enjoys private gun ownership outside the USA
The globalists have achieved multi faceted goals with this incident.
3 mosques in Christchurch 6 in Wellington, an easier target would be Wellington.
But the esoteric reasons point to Christ-Church being a symbolic attack on Islam by White Christendom.
They the NWO want an Islam-Western world religious war. Meanwhile millions will die and the globalist get to pick up the pieces, reconstruction contracts, more power, cheaper labour,
But 1st there will be the worldwide Financial crash. Then off to war. History repeating itself ( see Hitlers rise to power after WW1 )
From voiceofeurope.com just a few of the stories being underreported in the MSM
Sweden’s first hijab-wearing MP grilled for proposing race–based nationwide register
Christians living in a Muslim country ‘143 times more likely’ to be killed by a Muslim than vice versa
voiceofeurope.com...
Landslide in the Netherlands, anti immigration, anti EU party rumbles into the senate
Opposition to Marxism
Fascists made no secret of their hatred of Marxists of all stripes, from totalitarian communists to democratic socialists. Fascists promised to deal more “firmly” with Marxists than had earlier, more democratic rightist parties. Mussolini first made his reputation as a fascist by unleashing armed squads of Blackshirts on striking workers and peasants in 1920–21. Many early Nazis had served in the Freikorps, the paramilitary groups formed by ex-soldiers to suppress leftist activism in Germany at the end of World War I. The Nazi SA (Sturmabteilung [“Assault Division”], or Brownshirts) clashed regularly with German leftists in the streets before 1933, and when Hitler came to power he sent hundreds of Marxists to concentration camps and intimidated “red” neighbourhoods with police raids and beatings.
originally posted by: alldaylong
Sometimes people are blind without realising it.
Shame for you really.
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Therefore we demand:
11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries. (Wealth redistribution)
15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
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COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD
25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.
The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.
The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.
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20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
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21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
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23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:
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Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.
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The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Do you know what Fascism is ?
The government of Nazi Germany was a fascist, totalitarian state. Totalitarian regimes, in contrast to a dictatorship, establish complete political, social, and cultural control over their subjects, and are usually headed by a charismatic leader. Fascism is a form of right-wing totalitarianism which emphasizes the subordination of the individual to advance the interests of the state
remember.org...
I don't think you are educated enough to understand.
originally posted by: harold223
This. You can have left-wing totalitarianism, i.e "Stalanist Communism" and right-wing totalitarianism, i.e Facism.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Anyway, to go back to the original topic, here is once again a picture of the diagram that the murderer had in his equipment. Not to mention that he even mentions wanting to use those weapons because he wanted them banned to start a conflict between the left and the right around the world...
The above diagram is part of this other diagram.
"Worker's right" far left-wing belief...
"Anti-imperialism" far left-wing belief...
"Environmentalism" the radical version of the left just like today...
"Responsible Markets" instead of Free Markets...
These are "far left-wing beliefs" and have NOTHING to do with the right...