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New Zealand Mass Murderer is a Far Left-winger.

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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Deny ignorance.


Hitler tried to take the Arabs on board to fight against The British in North Africa and The Middle East.

He did it for self interest and not for love of The Arabs.

Learn more.


If that was the case then how could he trust those "inferior" people to do his dirty work?

Let's not forget that true Aryans are actually from Persia.




posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Wide-Eyes




Let's not forget that true Aryans are actually from Persia




Hitler argued that the German (he wrongly described them as the Aryan race) was superior to all others. Hitler was obsessed with 'racial purity'. He used the word 'Aryan' to describe his idea of a 'pure German race' or Herrenvolk. The 'Aryan race' had a duty to control the world. The Nazis believed that the Aryans had the most "pure blood" of all the people on earth. The ideal Aryan had pale skin, blond hair and blue eyes


www.sahistory.org.za...


Hope you now understand Hitlers ideology.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Some questions....

How do we know his manifesto is actually "his manifesto" and that he wrote the words, meaning them and not just parroting them down?
Who actually put him up to this? The OZ government, the NZ government, both, globalists, some other player?
Like all catastrophes, real, imagined or staged, what is the end goal, the agenda?
Is any of this even real? Were any of you there? Did you know the guy?

It seems like a lot of speculation and interpretation (opinion) going on here. Peel back the veneer of "pubic" information, you might just find the truth ;-)

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Wide-Eyes




Let's not forget that true Aryans are actually from Persia




Hitler argued that the German (he wrongly described them as the Aryan race) was superior to all others. Hitler was obsessed with 'racial purity'. He used the word 'Aryan' to describe his idea of a 'pure German race' or Herrenvolk. The 'Aryan race' had a duty to control the world. The Nazis believed that the Aryans had the most "pure blood" of all the people on earth. The ideal Aryan had pale skin, blond hair and blue eyes


www.sahistory.org.za...


Hope you now understand Hitlers ideology.


Yes. He drew a parallel for a Caucasian master race akin to the purest blood of the middle east.

It is no coincidence that he labeled the purest Caucasian genetics as "Aryan"...
edit on 2132019 by Wide-Eyes because: Missed word



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse



I'm referring to the modern day right-wing extremist movement taking place on social media sites in this century, which claims that immigration by other cultures to western countries is an "invasion".

The Christchurch shooter was clearly influenced by that right-wing ideology.


So in your book being against illegal immigration and not agreeing with multiculturalism makes one not only a right wing but also an extremist? Trying to save the values and your own culture from a non compatible culture that for centuries has proven to be a subversive ideology that takes over by eliminating the host is extremism? Or is extremism because is not what you stand for and believe to be right? So in other words a difference in opinions which you don't like it and in turn you coin it as extremism?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

I don't let titles confuse me. Just like i don't let left-wing historical revisionism confuse me.

Hitler called all other socialists and communists to change from the internationalist side of socialism to the nationalist side of socialism...

The radicalist idea of Hitler and the nazis about "the Aryan people being the best" came from their belief on Darwinism, or "the theory that biological evolution and natural selection makes the strongest species survive." To the nazis whites were/are that superior race, even though white people are not Aryan, because in their eyes whites are the strongest of all races. Which of course it's wrong.

On page 5 and 6 of "Table Talk" Hitler stated:


3 Night of 11 th-12 th July 1941
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At the end of the last century the progress of science and technique led liberalism astray into proclaiming man's mastery of nature, and announcing that he would soon have dominion over space. But a simple storm is enough—and everything collapses like a pack of cards!
In any case, we shall learn to become familiar with the laws by which life is governed, and acquaintance with the laws of nature will guide us on the path of progress.
...


The nazis also believed that "the common good comes before individual good." In fact they believed the individual should be a subordinate to the state/the good of the collective.


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After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.

Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288

What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.

“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941

To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler,4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 36-37. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.

As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
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www.reddit.com...

These are not "right-wing ideas."



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: Wide-Eyes




Let's not forget that true Aryans are actually from Persia




Hitler argued that the German (he wrongly described them as the Aryan race) was superior to all others. Hitler was obsessed with 'racial purity'. He used the word 'Aryan' to describe his idea of a 'pure German race' or Herrenvolk. The 'Aryan race' had a duty to control the world. The Nazis believed that the Aryans had the most "pure blood" of all the people on earth. The ideal Aryan had pale skin, blond hair and blue eyes


www.sahistory.org.za...


Hope you now understand Hitlers ideology.


Yes. He drew a parallel for a Caucasian master race akin to the purest blood of the middle east.

It is no coincidence that he labeled the purest Caucasian genetics as "Aryan"...



Who told you that nonsense ?



Nazi racial ideology also considered Arabs and North Africans to be racially inferior to Germans, a sentiment echoed by Hitler and other Nazi leaders to deprecate them


en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse



I'm referring to the modern day right-wing extremist movement taking place on social media sites in this century, which claims that immigration by other cultures to western countries is an "invasion".

The Christchurch shooter was clearly influenced by that right-wing ideology.


So in your book being against illegal immigration and not agreeing with multiculturalism makes one not only a right wing but also an extremist?


Correct, "in my book" the traits you just mentioned are most commonly associated with a right-wing extremist movement currently taking place in western countries.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong




Who told you that nonsense ? 


Nobody. I came up with it all by myself as I am a free thinker.

History is written by the victors. After the League of Nations carved up the Middle East to fight amongst themselves, the history books were rewritten.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Some questions....

How do we know his manifesto is actually "his manifesto" and that he wrote the words, meaning them and not just parroting them down?
Who actually put him up to this? The OZ government, the NZ government, both, globalists, some other player?
Like all catastrophes, real, imagined or staged, what is the end goal, the agenda?
Is any of this even real? Were any of you there? Did you know the guy?

It seems like a lot of speculation and interpretation (opinion) going on here. Peel back the veneer of "pubic" information, you might just find the truth ;-)

Cheers - Dave





Who benefits the MOST from the incident?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse



I'm referring to the modern day right-wing extremist movement taking place on social media sites in this century, which claims that immigration by other cultures to western countries is an "invasion".

The Christchurch shooter was clearly influenced by that right-wing ideology.


So in your book being against illegal immigration and not agreeing with multiculturalism makes one not only a right wing but also an extremist?


Correct, "in my book" the traits you just mentioned are most commonly associated with a right-wing extremist movement currently taking place in western countries.


Are mostly associated by leftist morons and Marxist ideologist who push the identity politics on masses. But loving your country, loving your culture and standing up for those doesn't make you a right wing, (and absolutely not an extremist), doesn't make you a bad person, just someone who thinks and expresses himself based on individual values and principals. Something that leftist can't understand since they're the herd that needs the identity politics and group mind hive like mentality.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
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The Christchurch shooter was clearly influenced by that right-wing ideology.


I guess then Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Obama, and the entire democrat party were all "evil right-wingers" until Trump became POTUS?...



Starting at 25 seconds you can hear democrats ideas on illegal immigration before and after Trump became POTUS.



All these people were against illegal immigration right until Trump became POTUS... Were they, or are they nazis disguising themselves and trying to hide the fact they are murderers?...

BTW, why isn't Obama seen also as a "nazi" since he also implemented a travel ban on Muslims, and in fact the lists of Muslim countries in which POTUS Trump wanted an extension of 6 months "travel ban" was selected by Obama... oO

Friendly Reminder: Obama Selected The List Of Muslim Countries in Trump’s Executive Order



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Oh dear.



National Socialist in nature which includes the ideas of "worker's rights, the radical environmentalism the nazis were known


Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.

The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".

Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.

Don't let titles confuse the reality.


Not true at all.

The Nazi ideology was born from Marxism but adapted/changed. It was very much hailed all over the world at the time, loved by Royalty and elites. It was the leading Marxist Mussolini who originally adapted the ideology to become the leading voice in the progressive movement that was (and is) fascism and Hitler saw the value in those ideals. The racial element was more associated to Hitler himself and grew over time.

The Nazi's were very much on the political left - or more accurately the political extreme where all the vile. murderous ideologies inhabit, Nazism/fascism, Communism, Progressivism. All the same.


edit on 21/3/2019 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: ElectricUniverse



I'm referring to the modern day right-wing extremist movement taking place on social media sites in this century, which claims that immigration by other cultures to western countries is an "invasion".

The Christchurch shooter was clearly influenced by that right-wing ideology.


So in your book being against illegal immigration and not agreeing with multiculturalism makes one not only a right wing but also an extremist?


Correct, "in my book" the traits you just mentioned are most commonly associated with a right-wing extremist movement currently taking place in western countries.



How do you define hatred by left or right?

Hate is hate right? So tell me genious, "Is it only right wingers that are capable of hating enough to kill other human beings?"!

Name 1 right winger that you can define as an Echo Facist! ONE!!!

Thing is? This guy hates society period. He is an Anarchist. Read his Manifesto. He wants a war!

Are you ready for a war for you polical beliefs?

Think real carefully comrade.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:33 PM
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edit on 21-3-2019 by Wardaddy454 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Oh dear.



National Socialist in nature which includes the ideas of "worker's rights, the radical environmentalism the nazis were known


Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.

The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".

Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.

Don't let titles confuse the reality.


Did Hitler nationalize almost everything? Pretty certain he did. That would put him more in line with socialism than anything else.
edit on 21-3-2019 by Wardaddy454 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

They HAVE to believe that he was ring-wing because they cling to identity politics.

"They" identify as left-wing. It is their culture. To accept the reality that the shooter was a leftist would mean that perhaps their is something wrong with "them" because their ideology is all about being in lock-step with each other.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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Why are people still fighting over this guy?

Every one knows right wingers like to cling to their guns, and religion.

The Nz dumbsnip shot up a 'church'.

So He was 'left' wing.




posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:41 PM
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Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep at night.

We don't know what the hell he is other than a troll who wanted people to start threads such as this, and further divide us.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Oh dear.



National Socialist in nature which includes the ideas of "worker's rights, the radical environmentalism the nazis were known


Saying the Nazi's where socialist is akin to saying that The Democratic People Republic of North Korea is a democracy.

The Nazi ideology was built on " Race ".

Aryan Race all superior. Every other race inferior.

Don't let titles confuse the reality.


Did Hitler nationalize almost everything? Pretty certain he did. That would put him more in line with socialism than anything else.


This was one of the subtle changes to Marxism - Hitler's idea was to fully control the private sector as opposed to directly controlling the means of production through Govt. But it is true that the idea of a free market was abhorent to the fascists of the time as it is to the fascists/progressives of modern times.



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