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originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Referendums are problematic at the best of times
Really thats the best you can come up with? What with life peerages; you seriously think the system isn't rigged already?
We had a referendum in Aus to talk about becoming a republic. The problem was it was worded in such a way that we would have a President and a PM. LOL they werent serious about giving us a real republic. Just a pretend one.
en.wikipedia.org...
Many opinions were put forward for the defeat, some relating to perceived difficulties with the parliamentary appointment model, others relating to the lack of public engagement or that most Australians were simply happy to keep the status quo. Some republicans voted no because they did not agree with provisions such as the president being instantly dismissible by the prime minister.
"The Brexit mess keeps on getting messier. Now a rule dating from 1604 could see the UK crash out of the EU even though MPs have voted against just that.
Mr Bercow cited a parliamentary convention dating back to 1604 and reaffirmed in 1864, 1870, 1882, 1891 and 1912. This declares that the question “may not be brought forward again during the same session” of parliament. “One of the reasons the rule has lasted so long is that it is a necessary rule to ensure the sensible use of the house’s time and the proper respect for the decisions it takes,” Mr Bercow said.
I had three different conversations with businessmen this morning and the resonance is should parliament torpedo the 29th things will kick-off big style and they were all of the opinion that the houses are no longer representing the peoples decisions and have strayed far too deep into the eu's pockets.
Oddschecker insight article
It's now as short as 7/2 that the UK leaves without a withdrawal agreement. Just 24 hours ago, it was 7/1 that the UK leaves the EU on March 30th with no withdrawal agreement in place. Since then, bookmakers have decisively slashed the odds into 7/2. In the last 24 hours, a whopping 87% of total bets have gone on the UK to leave in ten days’ time with no agreement
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
But...they have to make it difficult.
If they made this easy next week Spain would be looking to vote to leave.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
But...they have to make it difficult.
If they made this easy next week Spain would be looking to vote to leave.
And there are other countries watching waiting taking tips on how to leave.....
Dont you wonder IF the EU was so great why are some countries desperate
to leave?
Like prisoners waiting to break out of the prison they are in!!
Its honestly because I do believe it is the only way forward that would be in the best interests of the country
Trading restrictions work both ways, so any attempt by Brussels to punish the disobedient Brits by preventing them exporting agricultural goods to the EU might encourage the British government to find sudden reasons to stop the importation of German motor cars. Or Irish beef. Or French wine. Have you tried new-world merlots? They can be rather good. And good value. No deal would, in fact, have tremendous advantages. It would allow Britain immediately to negotiate and sign trade deals beyond Europe. It would force May’s government to cut taxes to make us more competitive. It would result in a tremendous boost to national unity.
Britain has stepped up planning for the effects of such a departure and on Thursday published 28 technical notices here covering the impact on areas ranging from environmental standards to certification for manufacturers.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
But...they have to make it difficult.
If they made this easy next week Spain would be looking to vote to leave.
And there are other countries watching waiting taking tips on how to leave.....
Dont you wonder IF the EU was so great why are some countries desperate
to leave?
Like prisoners waiting to break out of the prison they are in!!
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its alright - contingency plans in place. You really think the Brit bureaucrats havent thought this through?
uk.reuters.com...
Britain has stepped up planning for the effects of such a departure and on Thursday published 28 technical notices here covering the impact on areas ranging from environmental standards to certification for manufacturers.
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Its honestly because I do believe it is the only way forward that would be in the best interests of the country
Funny how you didn't respect the will of the US people in your many anti-Trump threads and long posts. Your short answers here prove again your agenda.
Britain will survive - in fact they will flourish as other global economies take up the slack. Competition can only be good for the common man, no?
But why bring facts into an emotional plea - because thats all you're really doing here.
www.politico.eu...
Trading restrictions work both ways, so any attempt by Brussels to punish the disobedient Brits by preventing them exporting agricultural goods to the EU might encourage the British government to find sudden reasons to stop the importation of German motor cars. Or Irish beef. Or French wine. Have you tried new-world merlots? They can be rather good. And good value. No deal would, in fact, have tremendous advantages. It would allow Britain immediately to negotiate and sign trade deals beyond Europe. It would force May’s government to cut taxes to make us more competitive. It would result in a tremendous boost to national unity.
In such systems, the president has genuine executive authority, unlike in a parliamentary republic, but the role of a head of government may be exercised by the prime minister.
Really thats the best you can come up with? What with life peerages; you seriously think the system isn't rigged already?
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: ScepticScot
I was talking about the "claytons' republic referendum that we ( Aust ) were given to vote on. The wiki link showed that.
google:
In such systems, the president has genuine executive authority, unlike in a parliamentary republic, but the role of a head of government may be exercised by the prime minister.
I noticed that this was difficult for you to comment on...
Really thats the best you can come up with? What with life peerages; you seriously think the system isn't rigged already?
"The Brexit mess keeps on getting messier. Now a rule dating from 1604 could see the UK crash out of the EU even though MPs have voted against just that.
I only dragged Trump into it because you were very vocal in those threads on how another country should not respect the will of the people
originally posted by: SoEpic
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
If Spain came to its senses then it would want to leave too. I can wait to leave the EU, they are just a bully.
They wont let their accounts be audited in over 20 years.