MSM silent on Moslem atrocities - 1,125 churches destroyed by Boko Haram - 52 killed in one day

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Only one main stream US source listed there and I went to cbsnews and tried to find the story without using the search engine, and I could not. Personally this is the first time I have heard of this, so no it is not main stream.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

On top of that the CBS link looks like the video was pulled. I tried in 2 browsers, one says "unavilable or offline" (the video, the page loads), the other browser gives me a black video screen.

So, yeah, I stand by saying the US MSM doesn't report things evenly. (that wasn't a sarcastic response to the replied to member - I was supporting your post..)

As to another poster...
While the media might not mention the NZ shooters religion, they do mention his race endlessly (they often neglect that in attacks by moslems) and they falsely link him to "alt right" which is libel to an entire political class. The guy was anything but that. Take a look at his manifesto - he specifically states his beliefs and it's clear it isn't right wing... But go ahead and keep ignoring the truth, it can't hurt, right?

The CBS video works fine for me in Chrome, not sure what you are using. And that was one link of many.

You didn't mention any of the other links. You're right, they didn't mention his religion, interesting that, isn't it?

Alt right isn't a political class, you can't vote for it, it's a concept, you can't say he is or he isn't a follower of whatever beliefs many who declare themselves 'part' of alt right follow as you wouldn't know. When you say race, how many times did they say Caucasian? A police report may have, not sure I saw it myself. Do you mean his skin colour, or the fact he is from Australia?

Your definition of right wing is your own, it's clear to you because you don't want it to be - that's sad.

RIP Christian heroes.

Take some solace in our work after 9/11 - lots of punishments were doled out and I think we made our position very clear.

Just wait until Americans get sick of Moslam atrocities. Perhaps they'll, some day, understand how significant a 70% majority really is.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Only one main stream US source listed there and I went to cbsnews and tried to find the story without using the search engine, and I could not. Personally this is the first time I have heard of this, so no it is not main stream.

I'm in the UK so I didn't particularly focus on American sites.... I did find ones on CNN but I know some people on here would rather gag than accept anything they post.

I found it using a search engine within the time it took me to type Boko Haram in google, I'm sure you would find it the same way if you looked. Just because this is the first time you have heard of it doesn't mean it's not mainstream, it means you haven't heard of it before. Have you taken a lot of interest in the recent Nigerian elections? If you have then it would not be new news to you.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

White supremacists should be one of everyone's 'boogy men', are you denying that? Me saying that doesn't exclude the fact that anyone who kills, attacks or incites violence against any individual or group of people should be listed in the same category.

So you become desensitized to Muslims shooting and running people over with trucks and now suddenly the white nationalist, universally hated by everyone in the media, is the major enemy because we didn't do anything about Muslim extremists.

The hypocrisy is mind numbing and people finger point on who has an agenda. Stupid

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

On top of that the CBS link looks like the video was pulled. I tried in 2 browsers, one says "unavilable or offline" (the video, the page loads), the other browser gives me a black video screen.

So, yeah, I stand by saying the US MSM doesn't report things evenly. (that wasn't a sarcastic response to the replied to member - I was supporting your post..)

As to another poster...
While the media might not mention the NZ shooters religion, they do mention his race endlessly (they often neglect that in attacks by moslems) and they falsely link him to "alt right" which is libel to an entire political class. The guy was anything but that. Take a look at his manifesto - he specifically states his beliefs and it's clear it isn't right wing... But go ahead and keep ignoring the truth, it can't hurt, right?

The truth is it doesn't get them ratings when their core audience is left leaning and suffers from extreme white guilt

originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: JDmOKI



OP is proven wrong, goalposts moved...

Supply some sort of point and not buzzwords that mean nothing to me.

So how do you feel about the situation?

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

White supremacists should be one of everyone's 'boogy men', are you denying that? Me saying that doesn't exclude the fact that anyone who kills, attacks or incites violence against any individual or group of people should be listed in the same category.

So you become desensitized to Muslims shooting and running people over with trucks and now suddenly the white nationalist, universally hated by everyone in the media, is the major enemy because we didn't do anything about Muslim extremists.

The hypocrisy is mind numbing and people finger point on who has an agenda. Stupid

Well, you don't read very well do you? I said like white supremacists, ANY person who kills, wounds, incites violence on other individuals or groups of individuals should be considered a serious danger. The hypocrisy is with those who try and deflect that.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

On top of that the CBS link looks like the video was pulled. I tried in 2 browsers, one says "unavilable or offline" (the video, the page loads), the other browser gives me a black video screen.

So, yeah, I stand by saying the US MSM doesn't report things evenly. (that wasn't a sarcastic response to the replied to member - I was supporting your post..)

As to another poster...
While the media might not mention the NZ shooters religion, they do mention his race endlessly (they often neglect that in attacks by moslems) and they falsely link him to "alt right" which is libel to an entire political class. The guy was anything but that. Take a look at his manifesto - he specifically states his beliefs and it's clear it isn't right wing... But go ahead and keep ignoring the truth, it can't hurt, right?

Above should be a screengrab from the CBS video you say was pulled.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Listening to the media, Boko Harem must be a white right wing extremist terror group.

originally posted by: uncommitted

I'm in the UK so I didn't particularly focus on American sites.... I did find ones on CNN but I know some people on here would rather gag than accept anything they post.

I found it using a search engine within the time it took me to type Boko Haram in google, I'm sure you would find it the same way if you looked. Just because this is the first time you have heard of it doesn't mean it's not mainstream, it means you haven't heard of it before. Have you taken a lot of interest in the recent Nigerian elections? If you have then it would not be new news to you.

I think the OP's point is somethings that fits a certain US liberal narrative like NZ will get front page for weeks on weeks while other world events you would need to manually search for it. That narrative is much different today in America compared to EU as the vast majority of our media is liberal and they are on a anti-Trump/Anti Conservative frenzy. This is why they can sit on NZ for a very long time, because "guns are bad and we need to ban guns to in the US" where Nigeria just goes unnoticed unless you have personal interest since it is hard for them to play that into their anti-narrative.

The other point is it seems Muslim violence seems to be placed on page 10 where violence against Muslims gets page 1. I think a part of it all is that there is so much Muslim violence in the world, with most of it Muslim on Muslim, that people have become desensitized to it all while something like NZ is fresh and gains a lot of interest to sell news over the later.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Or you could do a search to see what mainstream news sources have reported about the terrorist group - let's say that again, terrorist group - Boko Haram. Now, you would expect to see very little based on your post but strangely not, surprising isn't it?

www.theguardian.com...
www.ft.com...
www.aljazeera.com...
www.bbc.co.uk...=2
www.aljazeera.com...
www.telegraph.co.uk...
www.cbsnews.com...
www.aljazeera.com...


But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

You mean at the very bottom of cnn? I agree they make really small articles buried on their website. We all know white nationalism and the Alt right is the lefts boogy man for fear and ratings. Are you really denying that?

White supremacists should be one of everyone's 'boogy men', are you denying that? Me saying that doesn't exclude the fact that anyone who kills, attacks or incites violence against any individual or group of people should be listed in the same category.

So you become desensitized to Muslims shooting and running people over with trucks and now suddenly the white nationalist, universally hated by everyone in the media, is the major enemy because we didn't do anything about Muslim extremists.

The hypocrisy is mind numbing and people finger point on who has an agenda. Stupid

Well, you don't read very well do you? I said like white supremacists, ANY person who kills, wounds, incites violence on other individuals or groups of individuals should be considered a serious danger. The hypocrisy is with those who try and deflect that.

That deflects from the entire debate about which gets more headlines.... I don't understand your point because you don't express it properly and you try to insult people. The event in NZ should be front page news and i fully expected the media to turn it into us verse them BS that divides us further.

Yes. It's all about ratings and their narrative and Christians and minorities getting butchered by Muslims isn't part of that business plan. Alt right sells

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: uncommitted

I'm in the UK so I didn't particularly focus on American sites.... I did find ones on CNN but I know some people on here would rather gag than accept anything they post.

I found it using a search engine within the time it took me to type Boko Haram in google, I'm sure you would find it the same way if you looked. Just because this is the first time you have heard of it doesn't mean it's not mainstream, it means you haven't heard of it before. Have you taken a lot of interest in the recent Nigerian elections? If you have then it would not be new news to you.

I think the OP's point is somethings that fits a certain US liberal narrative like NZ will get front page for weeks on weeks while other world events you would need to manually search for it. That narrative is much different today in America compared to EU as the vast majority of our media is liberal and they are on a anti-Trump/Anti Conservative frenzy. This is why they can sit on NZ for a very long time, because "guns are bad and we need to ban guns to in the US" where Nigeria just goes unnoticed unless you have personal interest since it is hard for them to play that into their anti-narrative.

The other point is it seems Muslim violence seems to be placed on page 10 where violence against Muslims gets page 1. I think a part of it all is that there is so much Muslim violence in the world, with most of it Muslim on Muslim, that people have become desensitized to it all while something like NZ is fresh and gains a lot of interest to sell news over the later.

Sadly if I was 'liberal' or any of the other terms used, I guess that's why it appears to outsiders that an average American isn't really bothered at the levels of gun crime in America for the same reason?

I say that with no sense of superiority, knife crime amongst young people in the UK is at a shocking level, and I can understand there comes a point where you become a little, just a little desensitised.

Bokom Haram are an extremely poor example to use though. Their sphere of influence is extremely localised and they are classed as a terrorist organisation by most countries. They attack anyone who isn't them - most recently voters in the Nigerian election regardless of their religion - although Bolom Haram claim to represent Islam, it's just an extreme terror group happy to kill Muslims, Christians, people of non faith etc. You could just as easily use the analogy of blaming all Catholics - especially Irish ones for the atrocities of the IRA until the Good Friday agreement.

Simple fact is that the English speaking 1st world media with a target audience of English speaking 1st world people, tends to concentrate on stories concerning English speaking 1st world people.

Even more so when the event is exceptional for the country concerned, rather than, sadly, increasingly commonplace

Nothing to do with religion.

originally posted by: uncommitted

Sadly if I was 'liberal' or any of the other terms used, I guess that's why it appears to outsiders that an average American isn't really bothered at the levels of gun crime in America for the same reason?

I call it American liberal as it doesn't really match up with the EU if we suggest liberals/socialist over there.

I say that with no sense of superiority, knife crime amongst young people in the UK is at a shocking level, and I can understand there comes a point where you become a little, just a little desensitised.

Bokom Haram are an extremely poor example to use though. Their sphere of influence is extremely localised and they are classed as a terrorist organisation by most countries. They attack anyone who isn't them - most recently voters in the Nigerian election regardless of their religion - although Bolom Haram claim to represent Islam, it's just an extreme terror group happy to kill Muslims, Christians, people of non faith etc. You could just as easily use the analogy of blaming all Catholics - especially Irish ones for the atrocities of the IRA until the Good Friday agreement.

But it is a numbers game and in the end extreme radical Muslims are in greater numbers than any other extremest group. The numbers are at a level that affect world wide compared to lets say a lone gunman in NZ or even the IRA. When there is 1 billion Muslims in the world and if we suggest only 1% is extreme that is still 10 million people willing to do really bad things around the world. We don't see 10 million Christians, or hell if EVERY Irishman above the age of 15 went total radical to kill or be killed it would hardly dent the radical Muslim numbers in the world wanting to do the same. That is 1%, now what if 5%....

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: uncommitted

Sadly if I was 'liberal' or any of the other terms used, I guess that's why it appears to outsiders that an average American isn't really bothered at the levels of gun crime in America for the same reason?

I call it American liberal as it doesn't really match up with the EU if we suggest liberals/socialist over there.

I say that with no sense of superiority, knife crime amongst young people in the UK is at a shocking level, and I can understand there comes a point where you become a little, just a little desensitised.

Bokom Haram are an extremely poor example to use though. Their sphere of influence is extremely localised and they are classed as a terrorist organisation by most countries. They attack anyone who isn't them - most recently voters in the Nigerian election regardless of their religion - although Bolom Haram claim to represent Islam, it's just an extreme terror group happy to kill Muslims, Christians, people of non faith etc. You could just as easily use the analogy of blaming all Catholics - especially Irish ones for the atrocities of the IRA until the Good Friday agreement.

But it is a numbers game and in the end extreme radical Muslims are in greater numbers than any other extremest group. The numbers are at a level that affect world wide compared to lets say a lone gunman in NZ or even the IRA. When there is 1 billion Muslims in the world and if we suggest only 1% is extreme that is still 10 million people willing to do really bad things around the world. We don't see 10 million Christians, or hell if EVERY Irishman above the age of 15 went total radical to kill or be killed it would hardly dent the radical Muslim numbers in the world wanting to do the same. That is 1%, now what if 5%....

Obviously a very good point, and one based on the assumption that being a follower of Islam makes you more likely to be a radical terrorist. Do you think being Catholic makes you statistically more likely to be a paedophile? Personally I absolutely disagree with the concept, but not sure everyone on ATS does. Given that there are over 2 billion Catholics, how many of them do you think are/will be a paedophile?

You don't hear about innocent people getting killed in drone strikes either. All MSM media sucks. You got to go to websites that actually focus on reporting world news. You can find world news on MSM but its rarely front page news. And who knows if the report has bias.

Just stop viewing MSM media websites or TV.

originally posted by: uncommitted


Obviously a very good point, and one based on the assumption that being a follower of Islam makes you more likely to be a radical terrorist. Do you think being Catholic makes you statistically more likely to be a paedophile? Personally I absolutely disagree with the concept, but not sure everyone on ATS does. Given that there are over 2 billion Catholics, how many of them do you think are/will be a paedophile?

Well it is not 100% religion as it is also culture, but in the Middle East culture and religion are woven together rather tightly, so it is hard to suggest one thing is only culture or only religion. Both of us have spent it seems a good amount of time in the Middle East so what does your experience say?

Pedophilia is not a good choice as it is an incurable brain function, so culture and religion doesn't play into it it. On the other hand being with little boys can play into cultures as it may be seen as a cultural norm and may not suggest everyone in that society are also pedophiles, just as it was back in the Roman days, but I think we both can say it is not one for 2019.

Since there are 2.4 billion Christians and 1.8 billion Muslims in the world do you see more radial Christian groups out there? Are there Christian countries that a Muslim walking down the street would have a slim chance to survive? Once again I call it a numbers game as there are radicals in everything, but once the numbers reach some point it becomes a world threat while the vast majority of a group could be just fine.

Up to 100,000 ISIL fighters were doing rather unspeakable medieval things as example...

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Your past history shows your "less than polite" conversations.

I read somewhere that the death toll from Islamic extremism has reached close to 100,000 over the last 5 years.
It's the single biggest threat to the world and THE terror threat that the world needs to focus on.
The media - for reasons we can speculate on , but only they know - are trying to hide it and spin the world threat to be 'white people'. It's a fairy typical Progressive ideology inversion of reality.