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Shifting hopes as Republicans and Democrats await Mueller

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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

What evidence do you think Mueller got in a questionable manner and define questionable.




posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

As has been covered again and again... the start of the investigation was based off a lie.


Laundry list of court cases thrown out when the initial intelligence used to investigate further turned out to be a lie.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

The government should release what ever is not classified and let us decide what we think. Not tell us what the report means.


I used to work for a bureaucracy years ago for about five years, government paperwork is so messed up, it does not come right out and say something straight most times. It is hard to decipher half the time. I run into that with genetic research quite a bit too, people writing and not saying anything as to what exact direction is the problem, just running in circles leaving proper interpretation difficult to do.

In the case of this report, a lot of things Trump was involved in were somewhat shady, but almost every time he did not break the law. Cohen was his high paid lawyer, responsible for getting things done, and not breaking any laws when doing them. Cohen could have told Trump no, Trump would have probably respected him more if he had told him no once in a while.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Lumenari

It's a nothing-report. I don't care what it says or what is in it.

It is all fruit from the poisoned tree.

It is all non-admissible in court and they can't do a god-damned thing about it.

An investigation from a dossier (paid for by Hillary) triggering a FISA warrant from a biased Administration.

It's all a failed investigation. It failed before it started. It was an attempted coup.

The leftist assholes tried to attempt a coup.

That's all this crap is.

not much more to add to this
I think you covered it all
well done



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

They have no political weight and they have nothing to do with nor anything to say about Muellers report.
The judicial is not there to do the presidents bidding no matter what he thinks.
Otherwise he'd have shut this down before the ink was dry in Muellers appointment.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Any explanation for why he deleted their phones then?


The comments I saw were they retrieved the relevant messages to the investigation and the remainder was not.


He is a man of integrity, the IG meets with him showing troubling texts from strzok and page, and instead of preserving evidence he destroys the phones

Makes total sense


If the texts were deleted how did we all read them and know what was in there?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

What lie?
It was based on suspicious activity of Michael Flynn and the presidents attempt to get the FBI to call off its hounds.
There's no lie there.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

They have no political weight and they have nothing to do with nor anything to say about Muellers report.
The judicial is not there to do the presidents bidding no matter what he thinks.
Otherwise he'd have shut this down before the ink was dry in Muellers appointment.


....Yet Democrats are scared into konniption fits whenever a "Conservative" (in their heads) judge is confirmed 😆



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


Yea... Got it the steele dossier that played a part in getting the ball rolling (fisa warrant) which was based100% on supposition and outright lies, while being bankrolled by Clinton people through foreign governments is what they call fruit of the poisonous tree... ANYTHING found after that is now tainted evidence, it does not matter that people around trump did something wrong 10 years earlier.


Without the initial lies that got the fisa warrant all this stuff remains covered up, in their zeal to GET trump they screwed up any real chance of prosecution unless they can manage to buy multiple judges and any jury used they will never convict the president of a single solitary infraction.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

I dont care. I dont need the government telling me what I can or cannot understand.
They should release the whole report less what ever may be classified or pertinent to another case.
Prosecutors who have worked with Mueller have said his reports are pretty comprehensive.
In that vein it should be noted that any indictments issued by the investigation have been in pretty plain English and I dont see Mueller muddying the waters with a bunch of legalese.
So far all the reports have been in language that most people can comprehend.
Give it to me dirty.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf


Laundry list of court cases thrown out when the initial intelligence used to investigate further turned out to be a lie.


Id like a look at that list if you dont mind. What court cases have been thrown out?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The point that just keeps stabbing them in the eye. How did we see them if they were deleted?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Who is scared? You are projecting emotions you hope they are feeling.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

We don’t know what they were

We have seen texts from strzok and pages Samsung’s that were issued by the fbi

The IG saw those texts, went to mueller with that info, and mueller let them go

However, once they were part of muellers team, mueller gave them iPhones

All of the data from strzok and page in those phones were deleted, so we don’t know what was in them

Mueller allowed that deletion, despite knowing the IG wanted to look at those texts

So we don’t know what strzok and sounds pages texts were at that point

Mueller knew these texts could be relevant, but allowed them to be deleted

So much for intergrity



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Sillyolme


Yea... Got it the steele dossier that played a part in getting the ball rolling (fisa warrant) which was based100% on supposition and outright lies, while being bankrolled by Clinton people through foreign governments is what they call fruit of the poisonous tree... ANYTHING found after that is now tainted evidence, it does not matter that people around trump did something wrong 10 years earlier.


Without the initial lies that got the fisa warrant all this stuff remains covered up, in their zeal to GET trump they screwed up any real chance of prosecution unless they can manage to buy multiple judges and any jury used they will never convict the president of a single solitary infraction.


That is a fairly accurate assessment.
Fruit of the poisonous tree.....where have I heard that before???

www.nbcnews.com...
when nbc is spreading the bs you know its over



The special counsel operates under rules that severely constrain how much information can be made public.

I think those have been linked here, too bad some are to silly to have understood them.



The reason: The special counsel operates under rules that severely constrain how much information can be made public. Those rules require that the special counsel's report to the attorney general be "confidential." And, while the attorney general is required to notify Congress about Mueller's findings, the rules say those reports must amount to "brief notifications, with an outline of the actions and the reasons for them."

oops



What's more, a central principle of the U.S. justice system is that prosecutors don't pass public judgment on conduct unless they are doing so in a criminal filing.

more rules the dems decide they dont want to follow now?
ole bobby 2 sticks cant give out squat!

how long will it take to filter from nbc to msnbc?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

Everything about the Steele dissier that is posted on here is a bunch of nonsense. They were not paid for by Clinton, they were discredited or debunked, they were not given to the press prior to the election or prior to being given to the FBI.
It wasn't used to obtain the FISA warrant of Carter Page. None of that is the truth.
This is a conspiracy website that deals with conspiracies. And that is all that nonsense about the dossier is. A conspiracy theory.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

Who is scared? You are projecting emotions you hope they are feeling.


The Democrat side of the Senate Judiciary Committee is scared into a perpetual frenzy 😎

They've tried every trick in the book and even thought of some new ones 😎

"The Hall of Hope and Fail"



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Irishhaf

Everything about the Steele dissier that is posted on here is a bunch of nonsense. They were not paid for by Clinton, they were discredited or debunked, they were not given to the press prior to the election or prior to being given to the FBI.
It wasn't used to obtain the FISA warrant of Carter Page. None of that is the truth.
This is a conspiracy website that deals with conspiracies. And that is all that nonsense about the dossier is. A conspiracy theory.


My God



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Mueller knew these texts could be relevant, but allowed them to be deleted
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He did? Relevant to what? Getting those two clowns removed from the investigation? Well it worked. Relevant to what else?

If he was going to run cover for them you wouldn't have seen the damning texts to begin with and your boy would have been railroaded with the help of these two.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 02:54 PM
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www.realclearpolitics.com...


The July 2017 warrant to surveil Carter Page, which may have collected “incidental" communications with White House aides, relied heavily on information provided by Steele, which the FBI failed to tell the secret FISA court was uncorroborated and paid for by the Clinton campaign.

rcp is biased tho right?
lol
hang on to that dossier dems, it will sink you right to the bottom and you can tell us how deep it is



McCabe has testified that without the dossier, the original FISA warrant could not have been obtained by the FBI in October 2016. Ohr testified he first warned McCabe of Steele’s anti-Trump bias during an August 2016 meeting in the then-deputy director's office. In British court papers, Steele himself confessed that his dossier was “unverifiable” and could never be used in a court of law.


when the msm is publishing this, it is over
ps
this was posted here a couple of years ago
dum dums dont listen







 
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