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Some Believe Mass Voting Fraud in California

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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: tinner07

Answer that: Take a look around at hospitals and a lot of homeless shelters. Take a look at the charities that lead the way in helping the homeless. Mostly conservative...and Christian at that.

So what have the Dems done to help the poor? Minorities? Why is every major city a bastion of liberalism where the minorities and poor suffer the worst income and educational disparity?




posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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Right lol. Some rural town likely.

My parents are conservatives. Living the Bay Area they know countless diverse people and liberals.
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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:40 AM
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False characterization. I work on relevant issues. The vast majority of NGO, gov, and multilateral (UN/world bank) programs aimed at community development, anti poverty, etc, are led and filled by liberals. There are very few that are even bipartisan in staff and leadership, which actually I wish was not true. I wish more of these orgs I work in had a more balanced atmosphere.

Those orgs also are active across the country and world, not just democratic cities.

Let’s take your homeless shelter example. That’s simply not true in nyc. I worked on affordable housing and homelessness here for 3 years. Virtually all the orgs we partnered with were liberal leaning. Even catholic charities who we partnered with is liberal in its outlook and statements. Every single person I know who works at catholic charities, professionally, is liberal.
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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

You equate charity with bigger government.

That, in itself, is dangerous because government is not charitable.

Government takes what someone has and gives it to another.

That is not "charity".

That is wealth redistribution.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:46 AM
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That phrasing always assumes all income was earned fairly and withiut oppression, corruption, good old boy clubs, exploitation. Historically we know that’s not true, so conservatives would appear more intellectually honest if they acknowledge that at least sometimes income is ill gotten or exploitative and this is a nuance that needs to be addressed. There’s a lot more to my point but I want to keep it brief.
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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Aren't you doing what politicians do?

Taking an outlier and setting that as the norm?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Right lol. Some rural town likely.

My parents are conservatives. Living the Bay Area they know countless diverse people and liberals.
a reply to: Sookiechacha



I wouldn’t argue about San Francisco and Oakland.

I would argue the suburbs.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: whyamIhere




I know one Liberal. Obviously, I don’t know everyone.




My black friends are tired of being taken for granted.


It's good to know at least one "Liberal" and have black friends in you live if California. Where do you live, Fresno? Bakersfield? Riverside County?



Del Mar so that kind of screws your racist insinuations...



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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Personally, I think we are beyond accepting drivel as truth. Nothing to date has shown significant voter fraud anywhere in America despite repeated allegations. We have, however, seen ample election fraud mainly conducted by Republicans, but maybe because they are simply much better at it than Democrats. Personally, I think it is time that one cite proof of whatever rather than claim truth when none exists. That's the only way to conduct serious debate on any topic.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

And there may be extremists who want all guns banned but the left is only looking for more sensible gun laws not outlawing them entirely.


Can you name a couple that are not already on the books? There are already 20,000 and you want to add what?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

Where I grew up helping the unfortunate was the Christian thing to do. Has that changed.
I am no longer a christian but my core beliefs like helping people who need it hasn't changed.

I dont happen to be for free education.... I want affordable value for value education that can move people up the ladder without making them feel like a charity case. Build self respect not feed a stereotype of accepting hand outs.

I believe in reproductive choice but even though I was a teen mother did not make the choice to abort for myself.
And yet I would never tell another woman what is right for her.

See I dont fit into any boxes and I am not the anomaly. No one is expressly conservative or liberal. We are shaped by the lives we live.
And I have many friends in the military and they are about 60/40 red to blue but we all get drunk together over a microphone singing old rock and roll songs. We eat greasy pizza and laugh and cry together.


Well most are more extreme in their writings than in person. I agree much of the country is still middle left right, but the squeaky wheels get the oil.

So I'm a conservative and I too believe in reproductive choices with limits, such as no late term abortions. I also don't like the use of abortions as first choice, or pushed as first choice (many times for profit), or used as a form of birth control... Not being that religious I feel over time it reduces society's values on life, cheapens it and society suffers for it over all.

As to helping people, many on the left want that replaced by the Government. There is a lot less personal helping and a lot more Government control helping these days. The funny part is prior to all this Government involvement people were not starving and vastly less people were living on the streets etc. The problem with the Government is you become a number and numbers mean acceptable losses and control in managing the masses as the individual disappears in the sea of many. Charity on the other hand is personal as in you personally know the people you drive and help and they know you. There is no acceptable losses in your view or mine as we help people.


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posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: whyamIhere




I know one Liberal. Obviously, I don’t know everyone.




My black friends are tired of being taken for granted.


It's good to know at least one "Liberal" and have black friends in you live if California. Where do you live, Fresno? Bakersfield? Riverside County?



Del Mar so that kind of screws your racist insinuations...


I didn't know "Liberal" was a race! LOL But, it's good you know one, since you live in California. You know, so you can assert an educated opinion about the obviously fraudulent representation of liberally biased politics in California.

Your opinion is obviously backed up by your black friends, who according to you, are "tired of being taken advantage of", no doubt because of the stolen "Liberal" political majority! The evidence is clear! Since you only know one "Liberal", your "black friends" are not "Liberal", but even they are upset! There can be no other answer other than "Liberals" are committing election fraud in California!



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Right lol. Some rural town likely.

My parents are conservatives. Living the Bay Area they know countless diverse people and liberals.
a reply to: Sookiechacha



I wouldn’t argue about San Francisco and Oakland.

I would argue the suburbs.

Even the suburbs of the Bay Area are mostly liberal. My family lives in the suburbs between sf and Silicon Valley.

Basically both the greater SF Bay Area and greater la Area are liberal. Some smaller and more rural areas of CA are not. Because most of the population is in those two areas, Ca is a blue state.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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The question becomes is it an outlier or not. Economic studies demonstrate that increasingly for 30-40 years economic production gains and most of the wealth has become concentrated to an extreme degree. Although gdp/capita has risen over that time substantially, wages have not at all, adjusting for inflation. Income has increased for less than 1%, more like .1%.

Further, as we discuss regularly on here there is corporate welfare, huge economic manipulation by banks and so on, bailouts, corruption, revolving doors between gov and corporations, huge contracts to business allies, etc.

Therefore, the conservative “how dare they take all that hard earned money” is naive at best, more likely intellectually dishonest.

To use an extreme example, taking el chapo’s ill gotten wealth is not Muh socialism and redistribution of wealth.

Therefore middle ground here has to be sought.
a reply to: DBCowboy



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

A simple google search shows 100’s of articles.

More people voting than registered voters.

The OP was based on my own experience.

I clearly pointed it out.

You have a different experience...BFD



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

A simple google search shows 100’s of articles.

More people voting than registered voters.

The OP was based on my own experience.

I clearly pointed it out.

You have a different experience...BFD


Hundreds of articles on what? Your experience doesn’t match the polls and stats on political views, registration, and voting patterns.

Also, your anecdotal experience is contrary to most people’s including conservative experiences in CA.

That doesn’t mean there isn’t voter fraud as you are implying. Two separate questions really.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 01:58 PM
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Does this mean ats conservatives are being racist against us liberals?
a reply to: Sookiechacha



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Were you actively trying to post the single dumbest thing that you possibly could? Because if so, congratulations; youve succeeded admirably. Because literally every single facet of your post is brain meltingly idiotic.
Aside from the shameless stupidity and dishonesty of headlining it "some suspect voting fraud" when it is literally just you saying stupid nonsense with zero basis in fact...
"I know one liberal." Wow! That means... literally less than nothing. It's conpletely and utterly meaningless. On top of the blatantly obvious fact that people gravitate towards others with similar views, so a conservative is obviously going to know and relate primarily to other conservatives... even aside from that, it means nothing. Your circle of friends is in no way whatsoever representative of the voting populace. How many liberals you personally know is of less than zero relevance, to anything at all. I live in Ohio and i know a ton of liberals. Does that mean Ohio is secretly liberal and there has been some grand voting conspiracy here to make it GOP? Or maybe, just maybe, does it just mean that i associate with people who have similar views to my own? One of those possibilities is blatantly obvious, and the other is unbelievably stupid. Guess which one yours is?

However, i CAN point you to numerous examples of ACTUAL voter fraud perpetrates by the GOP in the last election cycle. Would you like me to start posting links? The thousands upon thousands of black (read, mostly Democrat) votes that mysteriously vanished in Alabama, for example?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Maroboduus

Yet, you replied...

Never said only one side was guilty.

I pointed out how unscientific my experience was.

You call me stupid, but your drivel surpasses stupidity.

Wake up. Learn to read it’s wonderful...



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

Let's add census fraud to your list as well. Which is what allows California to have the highest number of electoral college votes. There are millions of people fraudulently counted as "legal residents" in California.

To your point about not seeing all the liberals that are purported to exist...I see the same thing in my area which has largely been classified as a liberal strong hold. Yet, I rarely ever encounter one.

The way it's done by the fascist left it to place liberals into the positions of power and influence. This gives the perception to the masses the majority of the populace must be liberal if elected officials are liberal as well. Like I said above...I rarely ever encounter a liberal and yet we are supposedly liberal land.


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