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originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: shooterbrody
You are literally just making stuff up because you dont actually have any idea what you are talking about. The Democrats have been pointing out the stupidity of the EC for many years. Just because you ignored politics until your favorite reality tv star became president doesnt mean they didnt exist.
originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: shooterbrody
You are literally just making stuff up because you dont actually have any idea what you are talking about. The Democrats have been pointing out the stupidity of the EC for many years. Just because you ignored politics until your favorite reality tv star became president doesnt mean they didnt exist.
originally posted by: Mach2
originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: shooterbrody
You are literally just making stuff up because you dont actually have any idea what you are talking about. The Democrats have been pointing out the stupidity of the EC for many years. Just because you ignored politics until your favorite reality tv star became president doesnt mean they didnt exist.
You mean those same Democrats that screwed Bernie out of the nomination through the arcane use of "superdelegates"?
LMAO
In June 2016, a class action lawsuit was filed against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and former DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC Charter by rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for Hillary Clinton against Bernie Sanders.
originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: neo96
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originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: shooterbrody
You are literally just making stuff up because you dont actually have any idea what you are talking about. The Democrats have been pointing out the stupidity of the EC for many years. Just because you ignored politics until your favorite reality tv star became president doesnt mean they didnt exist.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Maroboduus
Spoiler alert.
Read the constitution before calling people 'morons'.
That's rude by the way.
originally posted by: Irishhaf
People claims that the EC is an unfair advantage for republicans are delusional...
Even in the EC the deck is slanted in favor of the people that promise everything for free in the high population density areas... The only reason trump won was the Hillary campaign was one of the worst run in my life time.
Lastly you claim its not fair and people in high density population areas votes aren't counted, or don't count... yet go straight democratic vote and every body that doesn't live in those areas will never have their vote count, how is that fair?
originally posted by: neo96
And yet it's not republicans trying to get rid of it.
Those people that are?
Are the desperate ones.
When it comes to picking the president and vice president?
The sheer amount of power they have.
Shouldn't be relegated to dumb snips,
And like it or not.
The majority of Americans are dumb snips.
originally posted by: LSU2018
2016 saw the biggest turnout in voting history. Try again. Republicans are desperate to uphold the constitution of the United States of America? You don't say!
If we went by the popular vote then the vote of people in 49 other states wouldn't have counted in the last election.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Sure change it so that every county in America equals one vote, you have to win 50% of all counties plus 1 to win the general.
That is fair so that everybody has an equal say.
Looks at last election map
Now why would we ever allow these little smatterings of blue to control the entire country ?
Because that is what they are asking for.
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: neo96
And yet it's not republicans trying to get rid of it.
Those people that are?
Are the desperate ones.
When it comes to picking the president and vice president?
The sheer amount of power they have.
Shouldn't be relegated to dumb snips,
And like it or not.
The majority of Americans are dumb snips.
Well yeah, the majority of Americans are dumb, since Trump won, but he lost the popular vote and that shows something is majorly wrong with the electoral college when it doesn't reflect who the majority of people vote for. Dems are trying to get rid of it because they have an unfair advantage, plus many people don't vote because their votes don't count. It shouldn't be that way on both sides.
originally posted by: Maroboduus
a reply to: neo96
Feel free to name a si gle other country in the world that has a system like the Electoral College, you uneducated moron. Spoiler Alert: there arent any. Because it is a stupid, terrible system.
Are you going to argue that there is nothing wrong with a system which has repeatedly allowed a person to LOSE the popular vote and still somehow win the electionm Because that is a self-evidently stupid thing to argue. Just so incredibly stupid. A person gets thousands less votes then the other person and still somehow wins because of an outdated, idiotic system, and you dont see a problem with it. Because youre a disingenuous clown. If it was the other way around, you would be whining about it incessantly. The entire rest of the world makes fun of the electoral college, and with good reason.
originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: scrounger
Agreed. I also think it would be better if they had a voting week instead of just one day. This way there wouldn't be long ass lines at the polling centers with people waiting hours on a TUESDAY, when everyone has to work and is trying to squeeze in their votes at the last second. It's a horrible system right now. It needs major reform.
originally posted by: Mach2
It would be "dumb", if the United States were a true democracy.
It is a representative republic of independent states.
What is so hard to understand about this concept.
Our president is the president of the states, not of the individual people. That is why we use an EC.
Why would a state, say Wyoming, or Rhode Island, for example, join the republic in the first place, if this were not the case?
originally posted by: Barcs
Trump lost the popular vote and that shows something is majorly wrong with the electoral college when it doesn't reflect who the majority of people vote for. Dems are trying to get rid of it because they have an unfair advantage, plus many people don't vote because their votes don't count.
originally posted by: Barcs
I am not advocating for a true democracy where mob really does rule and determine policies. All I'm saying is that for a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, it should be decided by what the majority of people in the US want. I understand how it works, I just think it's due for reform. Penalizing states for having higher populations is not fair. It's archaic. We don't need to worry about states joining the union anymore. That's in the ancient past. We need to look to the future.
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: Mach2
It would be "dumb", if the United States were a true democracy.
It is a representative republic of independent states.
What is so hard to understand about this concept.
Our president is the president of the states, not of the individual people. That is why we use an EC.
Why would a state, say Wyoming, or Rhode Island, for example, join the republic in the first place, if this were not the case?
We don't need to worry about states joining the union anymore.