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originally posted by: Barcs
States are not separate countries, they all fall under that same federal government. It's not comparable to EU.
originally posted by: datasdream
If this happens the low population states might as well depart the US. There would be no interest in anything local. They would be run by the whims of the big states. This is a true death of the US.
What happened to taxation without representation? Did we forget that?
It's all a grab for power. If the rules don't work for you change the rules.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
What you are asking for is to get rid of the republic...If you do not like a republic then you can go to Australia I guess and enjoy their democracy.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Barcs
NO. I'm asking for a democratic voting system for electing PRESIDENT. I'm not asking to change anything else.
Lol OK, no changes... geez
originally posted by: Barcs
You are acting like I want to ditch the entire thing over the method by which we elect the president. That is LOL!
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: Xtrozero
What you are asking for is to get rid of the republic...If you do not like a republic then you can go to Australia I guess and enjoy their democracy.
NO. I'm asking for a democratic voting system for electing PRESIDENT. I'm not asking to change anything else.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Barcs
You are acting like I want to ditch the entire thing over the method by which we elect the president. That is LOL!
No just change the fundamental way our forefathers felt the desire to prevent tyranny and keep the independence of the states intact. Our forefathers were rather smart individuals, but it seems you are smarter in your no change, change.
originally posted by: Mach2
That IS getting rid of the republic, and rewriting the Constitution.
Even though I understand your point, I'm not up for that whatsoever.
originally posted by: Barcs
Yes, because America today is not corrupt in the slightest, right? Our forefathers would be perfectly happy seeing this mess where the big presidential candidates and a large amount of congress are owned by corporate interests, and campaigning is like an "America's Got Talent" episode. We are a democratic republic. You are throwing away the democratic part.
It's 2019. The forefathers couldn't have possibly envisioned the world as it is today. They didn't expect huge international bankers and corporations to run the world. They expected lots of small to medium businesses to flourish. It's a much different world today. I'm not saying throw the baby out with the bath water, but modifications to bring it up to date can be a good thing.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: Xtrozero
Amen! The Constitution is written in stone, to be followed VERBATIM It is amazing so many today do not understand this or the value of keeping government in a chokehold using it
It will Not be legislated away, not be "interpreted" away, not be pop-outraged away, and the like
It is NOT void where prohibited by law, and any disagreement between the law and the Constitution means the law is automatically wrong.
Great post sir, well said
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: Xtrozero
What you are asking for is to get rid of the republic...If you do not like a republic then you can go to Australia I guess and enjoy their democracy.
NO. I'm asking for a democratic voting system for electing PRESIDENT. I'm not asking to change anything else.
originally posted by: Mach2
Absolutely correct sir.
If the Contitution needs to be changed, there is a mechanism to do so. It purposely has a difficult threshold to achieve, as to make it necessary for widespread agreement.
Genius really.
An amendment can change any part of the Constitution, except one—no amendment can change the rule that each state has an equal number of Senators in the United States Senate.
If the Contitution needs to be changed, there is a mechanism to do so. It purposely has a difficult threshold to achieve,
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: Xtrozero
What you are asking for is to get rid of the republic...If you do not like a republic then you can go to Australia I guess and enjoy their democracy.
NO. I'm asking for a democratic voting system for electing PRESIDENT. I'm not asking to change anything else.