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Why do leftists have such a skewed view of reality?

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posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Let me fix that title for you.

Why do leftists & rightists have such a skewed view of reality?

Both extreme views are whackado.




posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: wheresthebody
a reply to: MyToxicTash

It's really quite a spectacle isn't it?


An extremely s### one, but yes.

People are told to pick a side and they listen and follow with blind loyalty. No way their side can do any wrong, any allegations are conspiracy and driven by fake news.

Both sides use the same dumb ass play book and act like they're ingenious for their tactics.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 08:48 AM
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Yep anyone who says "Make America Great Again" is to be vilified and wrung through every fake news story the left can come up with.

Turn to government handouts (some would call it buying votes), open borders where everyone documented citizens or not gets to vote because once we get rid of the electoral college all 25 million of the beholding illegals will remember who fixed it for them and allowed them to have a voice in the election.. They did so good in Mexico and other south America countries we can all be one big happy family and suck on the breast of socialism, corrupt government, cartels, and no protections guaranteed by a constitution.......

I have not heard any of the outlandish change America and the constitution or other DNC talking points from the right but maybe I have missed something ?
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posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: MyToxicTash
When left and right can't compromise and you get all this identify politics BOTH sides are to blame.
You are all being played and you are falling for it.


Maybe some truth in there.

But you can't compromise on killing babies outside the womb, allowing illegals to vote, abolishing the EC... pretty much every major liberal position is absurd.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky


I have not heard any of the outlandish change America and the constitution or other DNC talking points from the right but maybe I have missed something ?


The Patriot Act.

There's one right off the top of my head, and I'll beat ya to the kicker of both sides support it as well... Which would go back to me saying both sides play by the same book.

You're right, there are individual issues both sides use to get votes. Some they are serious about, and some just sound nice during the campaign trail and get swept under the rug after they win.

I understand why some seek salvation for lack of a better term away from the DNC, but seeking it in a party who gets funded by the same people just doesn't sound sensible to me.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

No argument from me especially about the The Patriot Act. It was 200 pages if I remember correctly and was before congress within 11 (?) days after 9/11.. It had already been written and approved for the go IMO... There is an agenda and I still have not figured out who the main players are but lord knows there are several suspects.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

I don't think it would be far fetched to say that big tech and the federal government have a pretty cozy relationship. Data is a new currency of it's own, and those two love to share it.

And how could we forget the MIC who got both sides to vote on Iraq who didn't attack us (I always love to point out the only sovereign state who did have ties is our "ally", but I digress). Afghanistan alone has proven to be more than we expected, which is an effing joke considering we trained the warlord on how to use guerrilla warfare effective enough to bring a super power to the brink of pullout. Our decisions in the ME have propagated new and old enemies... Anytime we claim victory our enemy comes back with a new brand.

6~ trillion spend and no end in sight... But both sides are in agreement unless it is the campaign trail when we see promises to dial back. (Mind you while on the topic of unconstitutional acts, we haven't formally declared war as laid out by the constitution since WWII)

So while we all argue about excessive spending of a few billion dollars here and there, everyone's eyes are kept off of the trillions.

Want a tax cut? So do I, we're not getting a good one till that's over.

The left wants improvements to social programs? Fine, if we do it with a tax cut and for specific programs that are investments (IE. Education) than great.

But we'll bicker over small potatoes because SJWs, neo-nazis, anti-semites, racists ect ad nauseum.
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posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Byrd

While I appreciate the time and effort you took to make this post, it doesn't address the question I posed. The economy is doing well by every metric and most people (71%) agree. Yet this person (and many others I have the pleasure of reading) doesn't seem to know basic facts about the economy that's supposedly so terrible. Like wage growth being much higher than inflation. Like the jobs being created are good jobs. Like Christmas sales being really good.


Did you accidentally link a different article? The one I'm reading about the poll does't comment on the economy being terrible. It simply reports the numbers.


The person I referenced has gotten the facts wrong which are shaping his view. Why does this person not know the facts?

I'm pretty sure you linked the wrong article.

The one that you presented is just reporting (and without comment) on exactly what the poll said. They restated the question asked by the pollsters and then gave the percentages of people who responded. They compared the answers given in this monthly poll with answers from the same questions that were collected in previous months ...and the data goes back (the question about the economy) to the 1990's.

Here's a link to the poll that's being summarized in the article

Again, there's no opining and there's no breakdown of liberals versus conservatives. Looking at the numbers, it's clear that there's no solid monolithic stance on what opinion's going to be held by conservatives, liberals, independents, Republicans, or Democrats.

Perhaps you could find and link that article you intended ... the one where someone is discussing the economy and is liberal and seems to make a lot of mistakes. The one you linked is just reporting on a poll and you can confirm it (check the link above) and see that they're not editorializing.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: MyToxicTash
When left and right can't compromise and you get all this identify politics BOTH sides are to blame.
You are all being played and you are falling for it.


Gee thanks for 3nlight3ning us.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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Why do overly political people have such a skewed view of absolutely everything? If you bring up politics every day, once or more times, regardless of political leanings, that's a damaged brain in need of help.

This only happens on the internet and mainly places of anonymity such as this. Very few people walking the planet constantly ranting or complaining about liberal this or conservative that, or Trump this, or Hillary that. And the ones who do, I promise you, are either doing it because it's their job on television or print, or they're bat sh*t crazy.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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I don't do politics. I'm a Brit but find American politics much more interesting.

If I was American I still wouldn't pick a side though.

They all make false promises and are usually corrupt in one way or another.

Can't be trusted.

Never voted i 40 possible years, ain't gonna start now.

Because I don't trust any of them.

Love watching you guys go at it though 👍🏻👌🏻😁



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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I don't do politics. I'm a Brit and find American politics much more interesting anyway.

If I was American I still wouldn't pick a side though.

They all make false promises and are usually corrupt in one way or another.

Can't be trusted.

Never voted in 40 possible years, ain't gonna start now.

Because I don't trust any of them.

Love watching you guys go at it though 👍🏻👌🏻😁


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posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

"Left" and "Right" are just the two pillars supporting the pyramid, and we all know what's at the top of that.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

So when both sides do work together, something you all say you want, you *still* aren't happy because they screw us?

Color me unsurprised.



posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: CriticalStinker

So when both sides do work together, something you all say you want, you *still* aren't happy because they screw us?

Color me unsurprised.


I assume you've placed me in a group. No harm no foul.

I'm guilty of the same frequently. That said, I'm in no group, maybe you're the same.

I'd love to answer your question, but you're gonna have to be more specific.

I implore you to be very specific. I promise I'll be honest.

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posted on Mar, 20 2019 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

You can't stop stupid people from being stupid.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

So I'll just assume you mean independents.

Absolutely (speaking for myself) I want both sides to work together, on issues that benefit citizens.

But take a look around, no one is happy. Look at ATS, its a compilation of people venting. I brought up how both sides are war hungry and that is unlikely to change. I pointed out that the Patriot Act infringed on constitutional rights.

I suppose you view that as complaining, that's your right. And you know what, I am complaining... But I pay to complain.

The right and the left complain about sillier things (in my mind) than endless war and infringement of rights, so I don't think twice to voice my grievances with the system that surely doesn't represent me as it is filled with people from two parties I don't support.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

People aren't happy with partisanship because it's nasty and divided and each side is too extreme, but when the sides do work together, no one is happy either because we get horrible things like the Patriot Act and No Child Left Behind or Common Core.

So what exactly do you want?

It seems like there is no way to ever be happy.



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Here's the problem -- everyone has a different idea of what "benefits citizens".

Me? I think citizens are benefited best when the government stops trying to help us. You can't help but create more problems than you actually fix when you get in the way of people doing their best to help themselves, and the problems will far outweigh any benefits you might realize.

However, there are a growing number of people who think free stuff from the government is what will benefit them best, and I've worked hard all my life to finally be in the lower reaches of the income brackets where I get to pay for all those free things and not receive any benefit myself because I'm "rich" in the eyes of those people, and every benefit I am forced to pay for further interferes with my ability to help myself and my family to achieve those things I am now paying for others to have for free.

This is the problem we have.

What benefits the citizens and which ones are most deserving of those benefits?



posted on Mar, 21 2019 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko


People aren't happy with partisanship because it's nasty and divided and each side is too extreme, but when the sides do work together, no one is happy either because we get horrible things like the Patriot Act and No Child Left Behind or Common Core.


Everyone complains, look around ATS. Yes, I was less than thrilled with the Patriot Act because it effectively negated many of our core rights.

I'm proud that's one of the things that I complain about, as many find much more petty things.

You can say that was done for our safety all you want, but it was told to us the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedoms.... Who won that battle?




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