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originally posted by: Lynexon
a reply to: MALBOSIA
Admittedly I haven't looked into her but is this something she has said before? Again, criticizing Israel isn't the same as hating Jews. Has she ever truly stated ill feelings towards Jews in general or is this just an assumption based on her being a devout Muslim? I ask this with pure curiosity and not derision.
originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Lynexon
Its not anti-semitic but for some reason, theres a defacto ban on free speech when it comes to criticizing Izrael or AIPAC.
The idea is to prevent someone from saying anything under the guise of "racism" or bigotry in that if you criticize the actions of the Izraeli government or Izrael, a majority Jewish State, that by definition, you must be anti-semitic or hate Jews.
By that logic, when we criticize the actions of our own government, we must hate Christians since most of the people in our government happen to follow Christianity...
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: rickymouse
Well its against the law over here in the UK....if you criticize Islam or Muslims and someone reports you...expect a phone call or knock at the door. Now all it takes is for someone to perceive they are being attacked with words or insulted and you're history thrown into the dark dungeon to await re-education
And not just Muslims but trans gays or just about anyone that believes and feels insulted...feeling being the operative word. Its now illegal to make someone feel bad
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
We’ve been conditioned over the past few decades to think that criticising anyone who isn’t a western whitey is racism and that being a racist is the most abhorrent thing you can be.
I believe it’s been a deliberate process that has changed quite a bit of our language and therefore thought patterns.
Criticising Israel, Jews or Muslims isn’t racist, anti Semitic or islamophobic, it’s just pushed as that to prevent criticism or people looking into things too much
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: MALBOSIA
Fear monger much? It's a bit annoying to see so much anti-Muslim stuff on ATS while people sling this anti-Semitic term around.
You cant criticize israel but you can call Omar a Muslim jihadist.. the double standards are ridiculous
originally posted by: blueman12
originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Lynexon
Its not anti-semitic but for some reason, theres a defacto ban on free speech when it comes to criticizing Izrael or AIPAC.
The idea is to prevent someone from saying anything under the guise of "racism" or bigotry in that if you criticize the actions of the Izraeli government or Izrael, a majority Jewish State, that by definition, you must be anti-semitic or hate Jews.
By that logic, when we criticize the actions of our own government, we must hate Christians since most of the people in our government happen to follow Christianity...
Yes and many on ATS are too blinded by their hate of muslims to see that. I criticize Saudi Arabia and other Islam countries all the time in real life. They are terrible.
I don't hate muslims though. Yet the MSM shells out the word anti-Semitism and now I see many on ATS doing the same.
We should be able to say we dislike a religious nation without being labeled a racist. I don't hate israel but their actions in Gaza don't warrant us giving them aid. Same with Saudi Arabia. We shouldn't be giving them weapons.
originally posted by: Ohanka
The Israeli foreign ministry essentially controls Jewish non-profits and NGOs, or at least has enough influence in them to change the meaning of antisemitism. The Anti-Defamation League is largely a mouthpiece of the Israeli government in America.
They largely target American and global groups but this is a growing issue in Europe, especially the UK and France as of late.
Antisemitism is no longer hatred of the Jewish people or their religion. Criticism of Zionism, Israeli policy or the Israeli government is antisemitism now. Israel does this to silence dissent, criticism and ensure they have the support of western governments.
Indeed what i just said under the Israeli sponsored definition of antisemitism is antisemitic, even though it is 100% the truth.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Link?
Or are you talking about the anti-discrimination bill that is essentially all encompassing and was proposed in response to Omar's comments about Israel?
Speaking of...
What are your views on the bill that essentially makes it illegal to protest Israel?
originally posted by: Ohanka
The Israeli foreign ministry essentially controls Jewish non-profits and NGOs, or at least has enough influence in them to change the meaning of antisemitism. The Anti-Defamation League is largely a mouthpiece of the Israeli government in America.
They largely target American and global groups but this is a growing issue in Europe, especially the UK and France as of late.
Antisemitism is no longer hatred of the Jewish people or their religion. Criticism of Zionism, Israeli policy or the Israeli government is antisemitism now. Israel does this to silence dissent, criticism and ensure they have the support of western governments.
Indeed what i just said under the Israeli sponsored definition of antisemitism is antisemitic, even though it is 100% the truth.
originally posted by: Lynexon
Since this keeps getting thrown around, I wanted to ask: How is criticising the Israeli lobby and Dual Citizens "anti-Semitic"? Especially during discussion of a bill that would violate free speech by making any criticism of Israel illegal.
I'm not a fan of Trump, the Dems, or the reps. I am, however, an American that is tired of the billions of our dollars going to a country that has more human rights violations than alot of our "enemies".
Please enlighten us.