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when does the war between Muslims and Christians/others end?

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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:17 AM
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Sadly, probably not anytime soon. Religious doctrine would have change, and that doesn't happen quickly, if at all.

I don't know if OP intended it that way, but seems to put the blame predominantly on Islam, and that is true today, but certainly not throughout history.

The saying "religion is responsible for more suffering, and death than anything else" is true to some extent. Christianity doesn't have clean hands either. They have tortured, and murdered countless numbers in the name of god, as well, but it has evolved over the last two millenia, and is now seen as peaceful by most ppl. The Muslim religion is a thousand years behind in that respect, but it too is changing in some parts of the world, not so much in others.

In my first paragraph, I used the word "doctrine", as in indoctrination. ALL organized religions rely on indoctrination to perpetuate their ideologies and beliefs, and in most cases are not accepting of those that believe differently.

Today many (not all) Islamic leaders have a message of death to all infidels. During the dark ages, Catholicism wasn't at all tolerant of others either, including their own offshoots. Even today many Christian sects have intolerance for gays, non beleivers etc.

So to the question, when will it end? When people stop blindly following what others say are the words and wishes of their perceived creator. If that creator truly exists, I highly doubt anyone speaks for him.




posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

The only way it's ever going to end is an extinction level event.

People love to hate.

Ifs it's not religion. It's politics.

If it's not politics it's something else.

The problem with modern civilisation is people.

They aren't going to change.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: apydomis
Is anyone under the impression that if Christians were out of the picture Atheists and Muslims could then live in peace?


Not if the Muslims want what they want in the World... no that couldn't happen.

And why should Christians be out of the picture?

Admittedly yes there are factions of christianity which aren't good but not many of them are interested in this war! I know you'll say 'neither do muslims' but I have to say that most muslims do want sharia though in every country they live because they can't live without their rules and Ideoligies, so it can't live in peace... in entirity... it has it's own system tha needs to be implemented. We've seen this over the globe! As i've said... the wars are all over the globe. We don't see every attack tha happens in the western media but they do happen. I've recently read about 2 such attacks on ATS threads tha i never knew existed.

I just think if there has to be a religion of some kind, it should just be Spiritualism and that's it, then there won't be any arguments about which god is the right one and all can just agree to be spiritual and peaceful!

Why can't people stop squabbling over stupid things like children??



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Whatbwar between Christians and muslims, I don’t see it
Between Western governments and oil nations, maybe Muslims and Western governments but,
I havnt sen a Christian army
Can you show me a Christian army

This isn’t a christian war, this is secular governments in the West vying for oil wealth and power.
China an atheist nation are ready to step in, USSR was an atheist nation fighting for power in Afghanistan a Muslim nation . Blame religion, it’s secular greed pulling the trigger


What you, and many others are missing is the ideology part. It's irrelevant what name you give it, it's the ideology part thats important. Religion itself is just the tool that controls the fools.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

when does the war between Muslims and Christians/others end?


When they all end up on the surface of the sun where they belong.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

There is no difference between communism, and any other cult, in the grand scheme of things. All tools to control the masses. Some have more benevolent intentions than others, but that is irrelevant.

I know it's hard to see if you have been the subject of indoctrination.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
I think it ends Christianity has had enough and there is mass genocide of muslims.

I don't really see a peaceful solution as Islam simply isn't compatible with the modern world.

To be clear, I am not advocating for it, but I don't realistically see any other answer beyond containing them to the middle east currently.


I was going to say that one side would have to annihilate the other completely for the World to live in relative peace!

Even if the radicals alone were wiped out, I still think eventualy it would start again..

And I also tink that if Islam won, they would want to install their beliefs and rules onto all who are left, so I'd prefer Christianity myself to be the victors!

One reason is because I had lived in peace all my life in England until the enemy/radicals started their attacks here. There were no problems here with Hindu's, Sikhs, Buddhists, JW's, Jews etc... it was only when the radical Islamists roared their head did things become as they are in Europe!
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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
There is no such war since the crusades, which was started in the name of Christ. If you believe such lies in the 21st century, you have a simple and not free mind.


Your statement is a great example of indoctrination. Yours is the mind that is not free.

If you had never heard of Christianity or the bible, would you have made such a statement? I think not.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
There is no such war since the crusades, which was started in the name of Christ. If you believe such lies in the 21st century, you have a simple and not free mind.


The crusades were based on securing the Silk Road to and from China, India and Europe.
To not know that is just unbelievable

The crusades were about money, but I wouldn’t expect many to do their own research



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:38 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how old is the OP (the poster, not the thread)? Have you always paid attention to politics or the "news" or is it more recent either in the last decade or since 9/11? The reason I ask is b/c I can't remember a time when there wasn't some kind aggression of moslem's against christians in some country in the world. Take a look at suicide attacks and there is a LONG list and I think about 95%+ are moslem perpetrators.

I think what happened was after the disintigration of the Ottoman empire, it took time for the respective moslem counties to systematically ethnically cleanse (through murder or by driving them out) their countries of Christians. Before they were under control of the Sultan but after WW I & II new countries were created many of them independent for the first time and it took this long for them to gain a stable foot hold where they are able to "export" their jihad to other countries.

I think this is one of the major reasons for the Iraq war, it was a strategic foothold from where future resistance can be launched by "the west". Just look at the embassy in Iraq and you will realize there is a VERY long term plan for staying there in some capacity as it can host a fair size military force for "embassy protection"

I think they realized they can't win a war unless their goal is to undermine form within and it has been their lobbying and such that has led to "hate crimes" and the vilinization of white men and "alt right" and nationalism/white nationalism. It's a strategic attack and they plan on using the "useful idiots" who believe in all the PC BS for their cover and protection and they want us to kill each other off, the way westerner's don't care (weare told) if sunni/shia kill each other off.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist
There is no such war since the crusades, which was started in the name of Christ. If you believe such lies in the 21st century, you have a simple and not free mind.


You are wrong. It is on-going, only you are blind to see it.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

originally posted by: Edumakated
I think it ends Christianity has had enough and there is mass genocide of muslims.

I don't really see a peaceful solution as Islam simply isn't compatible with the modern world.

To be clear, I am not advocating for it, but I don't realistically see any other answer beyond containing them to the middle east currently.


I was going to say that one side would have to annihilate the other completely for the World to live in relative peace!

Even if the radicals alone were wiped out, I still think eventualy it would start again..

And I also tink that if Islam won, they would want to install their beliefs and rules onto all who are left, so I'd prefer Christianity myself to be the victors!

One reason is because I had lived in peace all my life in England until the enemy/radicals started their attacks here. there were no problems here with Hindu's, Sikhs, Buddhists, JW's, Jews etc... it was only whe the raical Islamists roared their head did things become as they are in Europe!


That goes to my previous point. All the "peaceful" religions you point to are much older than Islam, and have evolved into what they are now. There was great violence in all of them in the past.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: apydomis
a reply to: Raggedyman
You should take the crap out of your eyes and reread my sentence.



Atheists are infidels, have you no common sense, no capacity to think
I might have crap in my eyes but yours is between your ears😂👍

Some Atheists preach hate as do some muslims

I can’t believe I had to spell it out



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

We are all Jock Tamson's bairns.

Fact is, organized religious practice in all its many guises, colour, and creed, are simply control constructs designed to keep us apart and at one another throat.

It's class war, not race or religions war, always has been always will be.
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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: Mach2

110 million people, foreign and domestic, were killed by intentional Communist democide from 1900 to 1987.

China, under Mao specifically, caused directly and indirectly the death of over 130 million Chinese people. This death toll was not caused by ideology though, Mao was not attempting to kill all these people, rather it was the incompetence of his government

National Socialist Fascism killed about 15-25 million.

Anti-religion has caused more deaths than religion. Communist dictators enforcing their religion-free societies have accounted for more deaths than all the religious violence in all history.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:53 AM
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The encyclopedia brittanica seems to have been teaching it differently than you are. Straight up says as a check on the wars of expansion by Muslims. Every civilization on Earth has had wars of expansion, I ckudjng the Aryans, the Greeks, the Mongols, the Chinese, the colonial Europeans, the native and indegenous people's of the western hemisphere prior to being genocided, and certainly the Americans. Christian wars of expansion followed a couple hundred years later, expansions which led to the genocide of the overwhelming majority of the indegenous populations of the entire western hemisphere.

See how when you take off your tunnel vision blinders you realize you are discussing shared human behavior across the ages.

No I know I know, the only terrorists in the world are Muslims, they all need to be eradicated I get it. Let's just forget tha Christian missionaries in the new world also resorted to biological warfare to inflict disease upon the natives intentiinally as well.

It don't count because then I am just bringing up old # and now Christianz are not only better, but more civilized than anyone on Earth, how dare I!
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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

So how many Westboro Baptist atheists have you come across, out and about, causing chaos and spreading religious discontent all over the shop?



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

We are living in the end times and the war will stop only
when Yeshua/Jesus returns.



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: infolurker

So how many Westboro Baptist atheists have you come across, out and about, causing chaos and spreading religious discontent all over the shop?



How many millions, thousands, or 10's have Westboro Baptist crazies murdered?



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

We are living in the end times and the war will stop only
when Yeshua/Jesus returns.


Truth.



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