Christchurch Al Noor Imam radicalised Westerners, does that matter

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Raggedyman

I think it should be considered that IF radicalisation is taking or was taking place in that mosque then obviously plenty of worshippers were aware and did nothing (that we know of)

This has happened here in the UK, with many mosques preaching jihad but due to the conspiracy of silence in the Muslim community no-one speaks out ...or perhaps no-one dare to

If that is true then how do you know about it?

Are there secret recordings to point us to or are you just guessing this is happening?

If the article is true then I guess we could say he was also “radicalised” by this mosque.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: oloufo
everytime a right-wing-lunatic did something bad you guys starting to questioned it. why is that?

Well isn’t that what we are supposed to do, isn’t that why we have a God given brain
Or a brain, to not be sheep

So every time your told something you don’t question it?
More the fool you

i'm questioning you. this guy is a classic right-wing-lunatic. merkel is the mother of all things anti-white and anti-german. the invasion of europe and the genozide of white man. anders breivik is inspiration. calling himself a racist and facist. what else do you need? he is a right-wing-extremist. why is it so hard to accept? he killed 50 or more people, including kids, because they were muslims. and now he is in jail. no conspiracy. a very bad person did a very bad thing. why? because the worms ate into his brain. breitbart, alex jones etc... suddenly there were muslims everywhere. there is a far-right-wing movement around the world and i can tell you its not for good as you can see.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: Raggedyman

I think it should be considered that IF radicalisation is taking or was taking place in that mosque then obviously plenty of worshippers were aware and did nothing (that we know of)

This has happened here in the UK, with many mosques preaching jihad but due to the conspiracy of silence in the Muslim community no-one speaks out ...or perhaps no-one dare to

This is fact.

I used to work in the petroleum industry where about 90-95% of my customers were minorities and probably 75% of them were of the Islamic religion. Over the years I became good friends with most of them. One in particular that I'd become closer to than the others had converted to christianity. We had some very interesting and candid conversations about the Islamic religion and talked about things others wouldn't dare talk about. I was told about some of the inner workings of the Islamic religion that I will for personal reasons not repeat on a public forum.

There is a inner circle of radicals and radical ideologies within many of the churches that is not talked about amongst members of the congregation. They don't speak up about it out of fear and retribution. I was told it didn't exist within ALL of the churches but rest assured it exist and what some think about the non Islamic population is scary.

I'm sure most of what I've said is common knowledge to most, but hearing it first hand from a converted ex-member of the Islamic religion was eye opening for me. I just want to say, most of them are great people, at least that was my experience with most of the one's that I dealt with. There were a couple though that I didn't trust, which gave me the feeling that they would just as well see me dead as alive.

a reply to: oloufo

Man, that kool-aid is strong.

So have you read the manifesto perchance?

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: oloufo
everytime a right-wing-lunatic did something bad you guys starting to questioned it. why is that?

Jussie Smollet..........

2nd line.

the guy who wants more money so he staged a racist attack? and because of that stupid act you are questioning the terrorists motivation? ok then. he is alive, they will find out who he really is. maybe clinton paid him to do this.

a reply to: JinMI

it is believed his. no, i didn't read the whole thing. i didn't read hitlers 'mein kampf' too. you can google both.

a reply to: oloufo

🤯🤷‍♂️
Calm down you are over reacting

I don’t support the far right.
The shooter is a lunatic, socialist if what I read is accurate? Not sure myself
I don’t see how Merkel is relevant, breivik either, what relevance are they to me here?

I don’t need anything at all really, I can tell he is an extremist but in my opinion his political persuasion is debatable.
Still irrelevant as I am not discussing the shooter iAm discussing the information that the mosque was radicalising people

Do you understand what I am discussing, what I have linked
Nothing about the shooter, I linked that the mosque may have been radicalising people, ok?

The shooter killed people, that’s established and I agree, is that good enough?

Irrespective, the mosque was radicalising people?
Is that an issue to you?
Seems so
Thanks for your opinion.

Don’t aim your bitching moaning at me, I just reported something I found that I thought relevant

I haven’t given my opinion here

159 Christians have died at the hands of Muslims this month, and you don’t care.

originally posted by: oloufo
everytime a right-wing-lunatic did something bad you guys starting to questioned it. why is that?

People should remain silent? Like every time a muslim extremist goes on a rampage and entire communities blame everyone else?

a reply to: Raggedyman
If true, then everyone one who died was in fact just another terrorist waiting g to strike at free citizens, and they all deserved to die. This is what we are really trying to get at, right???

a reply to: Raggedyman

Christchurch Al Noor Imam radicalised Westerners, does that matter

Does it matter?

- Yes, it matters.

Is it somehow a justification or free pass to go into a house of worship and murder 50 people?

- Absolutely not!

Kansas' Westboro Baptist Church radicalized westerners (right here on home turf), does that matter?

- Yes, it matters.

Is it somehow a justification or free pass to go there and murder 50 people?

- Absolutely not!

a reply to: Duderino

There have been many undercover incursions into various Mosques around the UK, the evidence collected and in some cases charges brought

originally posted by: oloufo


this guy is a classic right-wing-lunatic. .

Oh boy you really going to beat that drum on and on, right? The man himself says he is an echo fascist, dislikes conservatives and admires communist China which clearly puts him into left wing classification but you don't change the tune and keep going with the right wing crap. I'm surprised people still are replying to you.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

No it’s not
What I was asking simply, does it change the way people view the terrorist actions perpetrated against the mosque
For me, if it was because of the incidents re radicalising muslims, well I tend to lose some sympathy
I have stated very clearly it was wrong, a crime and a tragedy but
If you let people radicalise anyone anywhere for any reason then you should expect reprucussions

I am a Christian, I left a church because it taught Christians that homosexuals didn’t have a right to marry
You are a Muslim and you attend a mosque that radicalises people, well, I would not expect it to be safe, common sense?

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Raggedyman

Christchurch Al Noor Imam radicalised Westerners, does that matter

Does it matter?

- Yes, it matters.

Is it somehow a justification or free pass to go into a house of worship and murder 50 people?

- Absolutely not!

Kansas' Westboro Baptist Church radicalized westerners (right here on home turf), does that matter?

- Yes, it matters.

Is it somehow a justification or free pass to go there and murder 50 people?

- Absolutely not!

Yeah it does matter doesn’t it, expect ramifications

How many people who were radicalised by Wesboro went out and killed people. How many Christians openly condemned wesboro. And if someone went and shot up Wesboro would you show sympathy, absolutely not!

Hypocrit, no idea how to get a point across do you
Just think before replying to me CD
Hate preachers get hate, why can’t you see that

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: oloufo
everytime a right-wing-lunatic did something bad you guys starting to questioned it. why is that?

Well isn’t that what we are supposed to do, isn’t that why we have a God given brain
Or a brain, to not be sheep

So every time your told something you don’t question it?
More the fool you

i'm questioning you. this guy is a classic right-wing-lunatic. merkel is the mother of all things anti-white and anti-german. the invasion of europe and the genozide of white man. anders breivik is inspiration. calling himself a racist and facist. what else do you need? he is a right-wing-extremist. why is it so hard to accept? he killed 50 or more people, including kids, because they were muslims. and now he is in jail. no conspiracy. a very bad person did a very bad thing. why? because the worms ate into his brain. breitbart, alex jones etc... suddenly there were muslims everywhere. there is a far-right-wing movement around the world and i can tell you its not for good as you can see.

Yeah, he killed 50 people. Its a tragedy. But right now you're going into the mindset that he set out to create.

Seems like there will suddenly be "right-wing lunatics" everywhere, maybe even around the world, right?

No, it doesnt changed that he should not have walked in and gunned down people including children........

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: JinMI

it is believed his. no, i didn't read the whole thing. i didn't read hitlers 'mein kampf' too. you can google both.

Ive read both, because I wanted to know how , and what both mad men thought.........

ignoring things like that only puts you at a disadvantage to crazies like that , and unable to see the warning signs.....

You know, kind of like drinking the Koolaid spouting he was right wing, because you choose to remain ignorant of what his views actually were..........

Womp womp

a reply to: Raggedyman

you only have to look at this

and you will realise that he radicalised himself

a reply to: Raggedyman

I think you took it the wrong way. I wasn't trying to be snide or sarcastic. I understood what you were saying. And, I wasn't preaching.

I was merely reinforcing your point. Not so much for you, but rather because there have been numerous posts in the past couple days with very unapologetic / retaliatory tones (i.e. well, they did it to us, so too bad, so sad, someone did it to them...kind of stuff). And NO, I'm not suggesting your OP was one of these!

Frankly, I thought your question was an appropriate one given the recent events.

But, whatever...