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originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
a reply to: shawmanfromny
Don't forget the push to call out so-called "Islamophobia" (fear of Islam? What is wrong with fearing at thing? I mean, fear is totally different than something dark, like hate!) … while ignoring anti-Semitism AND Christian persecution. Wtf?
originally posted by: SulfurMercurySalt
Explain why Jesus killed so many in OT for not listening and for being diffrent from the Hebrews ? Not an argument ! Just interesting to me
Technically it is.
The only difference is Christianity went through their own violent age from around 700 to 1700 AD.
Did you miss the crusades, the inquisition, the genocide of the native americans?
s? You think because Christians only did it in the past that they are excused from those actions?
Radical Islam also does not represent all Islam, just like fundamentalist Christianity does not represent all Christians.
The problem is extremism.
You might want to read Leviticus, buddy.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
No, it's not.
1) That was 300+ years ago.
2) MOST (not all) christian violence was in response to persecution
3) We wouldn't be talking about this if islam ditched it 300 years ago, I'm alive now. what happened 300 years ago is irrelevant for purposes other than learning.
The crusades were a defense of a culture against islamic attacks, but nice try. The inquisition killed 3k over a 10 year period. Muslims achieved that in one day (9/11). You'll have to be more specific about native americans. The US government was pretty genocidal towards them for some time, but that wasn't christianity even if it was christians. Prior to that, there were many wars with native americans. Wars aren't genocide.
Yep. Are you seriously going to argue that christians today are guilty of crimes committed by people 300-1500 years ago? If so, the blood on the hands of the followers of islam has just increased exponentially. The sad thing is, you didn't even see that coming.
See, this is the problem with people like you and your false moral equivalency. Just a moment ago you were arguing that we Christians all have blood on our hands because of things that happened 300 years ago.
Now you're saying current muslims get a pass for current violence by their fellows.I'm responsible for things that happened seven lifetimes before I was born, but muslims aren't responsible for things going on in their religion now. You've made yourself a logic pretzel, good luck getting out of it.
Not really, at least not in islam
It's not even really extremism in islam. 25% of AMERICAN muslims believe it is acceptable to commit violence against people who offend islam by simply drawing a picture of islam. 20% of american muslims believe it is encourageable to commit violence to make shariah the law of the land.
The problem with islam is not extremism, it's that it is a violent ideology, not a religion. It is an ideology meant to infiltrate governments, control, and oppress. If you believe the same about judaism or christianity, please show me the jewish or christian equivalent of taqiyya.
It's sad enough that your entire previous argument centered around things that happened 300 years ago. Now you're referencing Leviticus, which was instituted in like 1400 bc (3500 years ago). Let me know when christians or jews start stoning people and throwing them off buildings for homosexuality or adultry in the present day. I'll condemn that too.
Name one violent thing that Muslims do today that Christians never have done
originally posted by: JBurns
How about flying four hijacked aircraft into our World Trade Centers, the Pentagon and into a field.
When have Christians done that? I'll wait.
Fact is this... media give radical moslems cover while ignoring attacks on Christians and Jews. People are getting fed up and striking back on their own. When the system fails them in such a serious way, it is bound to happen. Tell you what, I'll start giving a # when the coverage gets fair. FYI... Muslems have killed far more innocent people in terror attacks since 01/2000 than any other group combined.