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Democrat Senator and CNN rush to blame Trump over New Zealand Massacre

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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

There are plenty of idiots on the left, it's refreshing of you to admit there are idiots on the right as well. You do consider them idiots right or are they good people who just love their country?




posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 07:09 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: pavil

Funny how you left out the part of the shooter seeing trump "As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose?" I'm sure people will be ok with that though......but but but identity politics amirite?


Yes , I'm sure the David Dukes and Stormfront types saw Trump in a more favorable light than Clinton. They liked his America First approach. What a Shock. They saw Romney and McCain the same way. To try and tar Trump with their support which he has never wanted nor supported or solicited is a tired and frankly stale attempt.

The left has played the racist, white supremacist, Nazi card ect so often that it's not paid attention to.

It would be different if the Left would also call out the Smollett’s, Omar's and the Gov. Northam's of their side out. They use it as a useful political weapon, not for actually using it for a better purpose.

If you keep trying the same thing and expect different results, you know what that means. By all means keep at it.......



posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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A couple of you guys need to watch this on loop until you get it.


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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: conspiracy nut

You know.
The problem here is you still think I'm on the right.
Your problem I mean.

To answer your a question, a little of column A and a little of column B.
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posted on Mar, 17 2019 @ 07:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Figures , my Nagging Wife Left me Yesterday because of President Trump too . Thank God for President Trump ! .......)


(post by Joystick77 removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 01:55 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut


Honestly, do you think that the mindset that responds to every mass shooting suggesting that we should have more people with more guns, is particularly sane and balanced?

Yes, I do... at least more sane and balanced than disarming a vulnerable population. No legislation will ever disarm a criminal, because by definition criminals do not obey laws.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: HarbingerOfShadows

There are plenty of idiots on the left, it's refreshing of you to admit there are idiots on the right as well. You do consider them idiots right or are they good people who just love their country?


Should I explain this to you in terms even an idiot can understand?

There are no laws that prevent such people from voting, so they vote. Look -- Some places even allow their felons to vote now. If felons can vote, then people who hold odious viewpoints get to vote too on both sides, yes? Or do you think thoughtcrime is now worse than actual crime that creates actual physical victims?

Moving on.

In this country, when someone votes, they realistically have one of two options just like the rest of us, so there is a 50/50 hot they're going to vote *exactly the same way you did*. You just voted the same way as all kinds of criminals of both varieties -- felons and thought criminals! Do you deny it? Do you disavow them? What's wrong with you that you would vote for the same candidates as them?

That's what you're doing and insinuating and you're no better than the rest of us and your chosen candidate is obviously no better on that score than any other.



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 11:10 AM
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Take notes. This is how real countries respond to threats and domestic terrorism issues. It only takes one big incident and they are already creating a new gun control bill to help prevent future occurances. For the US it has been happening for 20 years straight and the frequency of these incidents here is only increasing and almost nothing has happened to combat it because republican senators / house reps are almost always bought out by gun companies and NRA. 70%+ of American (repubs included) want tougher gun laws. You just have the complete nut jobs that appeal to fear and won't concede anything because they irrationally think that all guns are going to get banned. Yep, our country is screwed. 20 years of mass shootings increasing every year and nothing is done. It's pathetic. Almost all republicans are owned by NRA special interests and gun companies.
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posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: Barcs
Take notes. This is how real countries respond to threats and domestic terrorism issues. It only takes one big incident and they are already creating a new gun control bill to help prevent future occurances. For the US it has been happening for 20 years straight and the frequency of these incidents here is only increasing and almost nothing has happened to combat it because republican senators / house reps are almost always bought out by gun companies and NRA. 70%+ of American (repubs included) want tougher gun laws. You just have the complete nut jobs that appeal to fear and won't concede anything because they irrationally think that all guns are going to get banned. Yep, our country is screwed. 20 years of mass shootings increasing every year and nothing is done. It's pathetic. Almost all republicans are owned by NRA special interests and gun companies.


Take notes......what has been the overall trend of people killed with guns even with an increase in gun ownership?

You think banning a certain thing is going to stop a mass murderer for doing their killing? They will just switch to other means to achieve their goals.

Taking away guns from law abiding people will end up killing more people in the long run. Only criminals will have the weapons , is that your goal?

You go ahead and be a "real Country". I'm sure it will work out for you. Here in the US we have a way of changing our Constitution.



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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Democrats could have passed full blown gun control during the 2009-2010 Congressional session.

Why didn't they? 😎



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: Barcs
Take notes. This is how real countries respond to threats and domestic terrorism issues. It only takes one big incident and they are already creating a new gun control bill to help prevent future occurances. For the US it has been happening for 20 years straight and the frequency of these incidents here is only increasing and almost nothing has happened to combat it because republican senators / house reps are almost always bought out by gun companies and NRA. 70%+ of American (repubs included) want tougher gun laws. You just have the complete nut jobs that appeal to fear and won't concede anything because they irrationally think that all guns are going to get banned. Yep, our country is screwed. 20 years of mass shootings increasing every year and nothing is done. It's pathetic. Almost all republicans are owned by NRA special interests and gun companies.


You think banning a certain thing is going to stop a mass murderer for doing their killing? They will just switch to other means to achieve their goals.



If that were true, why did the guy go all the way to New Zealand to carry out a mass killing then?

It's not like there's any shortage of Muslim communities over here in Australia.



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: Barcs
Take notes. This is how real countries respond to threats and domestic terrorism issues. It only takes one big incident and they are already creating a new gun control bill to help prevent future occurances. For the US it has been happening for 20 years straight and the frequency of these incidents here is only increasing and almost nothing has happened to combat it because republican senators / house reps are almost always bought out by gun companies and NRA. 70%+ of American (repubs included) want tougher gun laws. You just have the complete nut jobs that appeal to fear and won't concede anything because they irrationally think that all guns are going to get banned. Yep, our country is screwed. 20 years of mass shootings increasing every year and nothing is done. It's pathetic. Almost all republicans are owned by NRA special interests and gun companies.


Take notes......what has been the overall trend of people killed with guns even with an increase in gun ownership?

You think banning a certain thing is going to stop a mass murderer for doing their killing? They will just switch to other means to achieve their goals.

Taking away guns from law abiding people will end up killing more people in the long run. Only criminals will have the weapons , is that your goal?

You go ahead and be a "real Country". I'm sure it will work out for you. Here in the US we have a way of changing our Constitution.


This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, most of that is a straw man. The point was that they are actually doing something about it. US has let it go for 20 years and done almost nothing while the amount of mass shootings increases every year because our congress is OWNED by big gun and NRA special interests. All they do is spread fear and it works because conservatives are generally guided by fear in their everyday lives and buy right in.

I don't believe in taking away guns, I believe in better regulation and extensive background checks like 70%+ of the country. It's absurd that it has taken more than 20 years just to get a bill on that past the house when increased background checks are so widely supported by the US population. Mass shootings are a real national emergency, but conservatives simply don't care about it. They care more about protecting a fetus than living breathing people today.



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 02:37 PM
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This is how real countries respond to threats and domestic terrorism issues.

We'll see.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Barcs

Democrats could have passed full blown gun control during the 2009-2010 Congressional session.

Why didn't they? 😎


Probably because Obama was too busy fixing the recession directly caused by GW Bush. Kind of like how Trump could have passed the wall bill a year earlier with more funding or anything else he wanted during his first 2 years but barely did anything. Brilliant red herring.






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posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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Kind of like how Trump could have passed the wall bill a year earlier with more funding or anything else he wanted during his first 2 years but barely did anything.



The President can pass bills? When did this change?

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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Here's another stupid dumb-bell Democrat lying like a rug...

(it's Keith Ellison 😆 on CNN)

Keith Ellison: Evidence points to Trump being 'sympathetic' to white nationalist point of view



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 08:43 PM
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"Real" countries......

Never heard of the No Real Scotsman fallacy I see.



posted on Mar, 18 2019 @ 08:47 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Here's another stupid dumb-bell Democrat lying like a rug...

(it's Keith Ellison 😆 on CNN)

Keith Ellison: Evidence points to Trump being 'sympathetic' to white nationalist point of view



Another one of the Left's fallen heros who won't admit he did anything wrong.

Ellison lecturing on skin color Nationlism is rich beyond compare.



posted on Mar, 19 2019 @ 08:36 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Telos
a reply to: chr0naut



Keeping your guns is what's keeping you still free. Never do the mistake to give those up. Never.


Of course, you might reasonably be misled to believe that silly graphic. However, during Nazi Germany, members of the public, who weren't either police or military, were allowed to own their own guns.

Feel free to educate yourself: Nazi gun control argument From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I'm very well aware of all that, that being said I'm very well educated.


Do you think if we all drank poison, it would protect us from being surreptitiously being poisoned by some deranged poisoner? The argument that we'd be protected from being shot by arming everyone (even criminals and the insane) is just as fallacious.

Also, if the government wanted to shoot you, they totally out-gun and out number you. You would have no defense against them. Having a firearm in your possession gives them an excuse to fire upon you, because they could claim self defense. It would be safer for you to run and hide.

A gun doesn't, and cannot, make you 'free'. It does make you a target for the better armed.


I want to agree with you, I so want to agree with you but I can't because I kinda have a first hand experience on what socialism and communism does being born and raised in an communist country. So don't lecture me on what can the government do. If there is one thing totalitarian governments fear is an armed populace, a serious force to recon with and that can't be controlled. Yes the government is powerful and can come knocking at your door but it will think twice if it knows you're armed. And when you, your neighbors, your town, your city all raise up, no freaking government can control you anymore. You seem to be one of those leftist who recently have gone from simple liberal to full socialists loons and are too blind to see what kind of dangerous ground you're steeping in. Take a look and educate yourself:


Here’s a history of what happens after governments have disarmed their citizens:

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews and its own people

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.

1964 – Guatemala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.

1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.





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