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Christchurch shooting: police search for gunman after mass shooting at mosque – live updates

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posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: RMFX1




I have a beutifull 13 year old daughter. The reality is, here in Amsterdam it's been widely known and warned against for a long time that this group of people have no problems exploiting people like my child, much like in Rotherham.

That is what the elitists want to happen. They want a population replacement. Unfortunately the only way i see Europe would be getting out of this mess is not by peaceful means anymore but a possible civil war in Europe is looking more and more likely.

Black markets have being very active recently.




posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 05:48 PM
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I heard that some are going to be blaming this upon the Russians it seems.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: Flavian
a reply to: Krakatoa

I have to agree with that point. One of the people who escaped keeps popping up in interviews - his instinct was to get TFO of the nearest available window and then hide, initially in the neighbouring building.

However, some victims are kids - could you in all honesty abandon your children to save yourself? Must be an impossibly horrendous situation to find yourself in.


Watch how this situation would be spin by liberals in Europe to demand more diversity and open borders.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman
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That poster was conveying their personal experience. What do you suggest, he just STFU and sit back an allow the country he obviously loves to turn into a "Middle East Paradise" like Syria or Afghanistan?

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posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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I read the manifesto.

When a question asks whether he supports Donald Trump or not, he said he does insofar as Trump is the "symbol of a renewed white identity", which is a line of thought pushed by the media for the last few years.

I mean, who has been giving identitarians so much press?

I think it's safe to say the media with its identity politics has influenced white nationalists more than someone like Trump.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: KrakatoaThat poster was conveying their personal experience. What do you suggest, he just STFU and sit back an allow the country he obviously loves to turn into a "Middle East Paradise" like Syria or Afghanistan?


This sounds almost like something straight out of this guys manifesto. Seriously.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: KrakatoaThat poster was conveying their personal experience. What do you suggest, he just STFU and sit back an allow the country he obviously loves to turn into a "Middle East Paradise" like Syria or Afghanistan?


This sounds almost like something straight out of this guys manifesto. Seriously.


But, if true...then what? Should someone just STFU because it might offend you or others? I'm not saying it is true, but, your verbal word salad deriding the poster is also not very well thought out and wreaks of virtue signaling and appeasement of the behavior the poster mentioned.


It does happen....really. Just because you seem to feel offended does not make it untrue.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
But, if true...then what?


Shoot a bunch of muslims, DUH!



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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Listen as the right wing in this group tie themselves in knots trying to distance themselves from another right-wing looney with the same beliefs as they have. Brilliant.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: 772STi

Maybe you can train some of the future mass murders so they can be more destructive.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: KrakatoaThat poster was conveying their personal experience. What do you suggest, he just STFU and sit back an allow the country he obviously loves to turn into a "Middle East Paradise" like Syria or Afghanistan?


This sounds almost like something straight out of this guys manifesto. Seriously.


But, if true...then what? Should someone just STFU because it might offend you or others? I'm not saying it is true, but, your verbal word salad deriding the poster is also not very well thought out and wreaks of virtue signaling and appeasement of the behavior the poster mentioned.


It does happen....really. Just because you seem to feel offended does not make it untrue.



You're right. It reminds me of Orwell's wise words:

"Indeed, anyone who has ever written in defence of unpopular causes or been the witness of events which are likely to cause controversy, knows the fearful temptation to distort or suppress the facts, simply because any honest statement will contain revelations which can be made use of by unscrupulous opponents. But what one has to consider are the long-term effects. In the long run, can the cause of progress be served by lies, or can it not?"

We should not stop talking about the truth because some nutbag might use it as justification for murder.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Krakatoa
But, if true...then what?


Shoot a bunch of muslims, DUH!


Perhaps in your mind. But, I suspect you are spouting hyperbole and not a real solution. Who earlier said, "seriously"?

I'll repeat, it true, then what? I await your thought provoking solution.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Listen as the right wing in this group tie themselves in knots trying to distance themselves from another right-wing looney with the same beliefs as they have. Brilliant.




Yep, the shooter is from Grafton and there are literally no muslims there, his experience with Muslims is most likely only from media and specifically right wing hate sites.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Listen as the right wing in this group tie themselves in knots trying to distance themselves from another right-wing looney with the same beliefs as they have. Brilliant.


Talk me through history and the atrocities of the ‘Left Wing’

Left vs Right, my team vs yours, Islam vs Christianity. Can you see a pattern? A problem?



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Listen as the right wing in this group tie themselves in knots trying to distance themselves from another right-wing looney with the same beliefs as they have. Brilliant.




Yep, the shooter is from Grafton and there are literally no muslims there, his experience with Muslims is most likely only from media and specifically right wing hate sites.


Actually he wrote he experienced it first-hand through travel, mostly through France. But, you know, "hate sites".



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa
I'll repeat, it true, then what? I await your thought provoking solution.


Punish the ones who commit crime. Very simple, and non-exclusive to Muslims. Punish bad people.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:35 PM
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This is s sad and horrible event....


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posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Krakatoa
I'll repeat, it true, then what? I await your thought provoking solution.


Punish the ones who commit crime. Very simple, and non-exclusive to Muslims. Punish bad people.


I agree 100%. But mention that any personal experience might reveal it is concentrated in one area that happens to be a Muslim community, and you get triggered. If it is true, and a fact, then perhaps that community needs to be addressed in some form that can help reduce or get them to better self-police?

Real solutions rarely fit into a single one liner....sorry.



posted on Mar, 15 2019 @ 06:41 PM
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Yes I know what he wrote, I'm not buying it




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