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Catholic diocese demands apology from 'SNL' for Catholic skit

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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: lordcomac
Perhaps it's time for a crusade against organized religion?

Can it be argued that the practice brings about more bad than good these days?
It certainly has its place in perpetuating ignorance.


Our rights we have stem from Christian religions. The governments would not have given us these rights if we did not have the power generated by the Christian people who tried to make this a safer country. Centuries ago, some of the major religions were bad, but in the last few hundred years the religions have become more oriented to protecting the people from criminals and overzealous governments taking everything the people had.

A lot of the problem with today's society is associated with people conning others to get what they want, deception is common here in America. Years ago a news agency that twisted the truth would have gone out of business, people wanted to be told the truth even if it was boring. The governments have always tried to suppress the people, Christianity had lots of members and actually tried to keep government from enslaving the people.

Christianity is nothing like Islam is, Islam does not allow other beliefs in it's countries, especially athiests. It is almost impossible to control Islam if it takes a strong foothold in our country. Islam is not a bad religion, but it suppresses human rights way more than the freedoms we enjoy. I have noticed that Athiests often are not concerned about twisting the evidence and truth to get what they want. I will never join a high Athiest group of individuals because of that reason.




posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: headorheart


People get the most offended when the jokes are the most true


Exactly, the truth hurts. The Catholic church wants to stop the bleeding of people leaving their religion. Eventually people wise up and realize they've put their faith in the hands of sinning religious leaders and an ideology that posses a lot of hypocrisy. If something doesn't sound right, if it's something you don't feel Jesus Christ himself would embrace, than walk away from it. You don't need a brick and mortar building with a wow factor, and church leaders who possess no special gift from God himself, to have a personal relationship with your creator.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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Do you think child abuse is a good topic for SNL "humor?"

I frankly don't think any topic is off limits.



EXACTLY. Humour is for things that are not talked about in polite conversation, it is shocking, rude, crass, contraversial.
That is what is so funny about it.
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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

I think that it's the most elequent deduction of the situation in this thread thus far.

👏 There's an OP applause.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Jefferton

originally posted by: neo96
I can't wait for SNL muslim skit

Being a 'free society' and all.

Google: SNL Muslim skit

Let your ignorance fade away!



You are talking to neo

Stupidity is bliss

And based on the number of stars on his ridiculously uninformed comment, stupidity spreads.


Spreads like cancer.

Notice he tucked tail and ran.

Just drop in and make an uninformed and ignorant comment that the right wing crowd will love then dip out.

But snl shouldnt apologize.
Why should they?

It is ok if people do not agree and are offended.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Right.

Some guy in the street is being kicked around by a group of thug's whom have just mugged him, is it his fault?.

A lady has a disease she has contracted from working in and having to drink filthy water because all the water were she lives is filthy is it her fault?.

The Catholic Church like the Anglican and the Methodist and the Protestant as well as like most other faith's in the world get's infected by Sinners, by perverts and it's own enemy the devil itself because it tries to save people and even with that infection there are still good people, good priests whom love god and just want to do there duty in it - is it the church's fault or is it the fault of it's enemy.



The guy in the street if he remembers and survives is hurt more by the scum that laughed at him, that blamed him for being mugged and beaten up - by there betrayal.

The woman if she lives see's the disgust in her neighbors faces and it hurt's even though she has never done them any harm.

How is the church any different.

How is Christ walking with the cross being spat upon and insulted by self righteous prick's any different.

Christ is being crucified again.

Perhaps you should listen to some of warning given to the church by the paranormal, about the corrupt priests in particular crucifying Christ anew and how they were warned that his arm is growing heavy and soon he would not hold back the divine judgement if the church continued to turn away from him, if his children continued to be corrupted by evil priests whom no longer served him but his enemy and the fate they shall then suffer for ever.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

I'm agnostic, and not a believer...

But I was raised Christian, and left because I saw men use the word for their own agendas (nothing too cynical, most are alright, just human).

But Jesus himself was against organized religion and dogma.

How can "teachers" proclaim to be teaching his word while being the antithesis?



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Well you are not the first and won't be the last, I remain a believer in God while I no longer respect Supposed priests, don't get me wrong I have met some very decent one's from all the denomination's.
But to my mind the Church has been corrupted since the death of the first bishop's and later while it did diminish persecution the adoption of Christianity as a state religion by Constantine opened the flood gates of Corruption as the priest hood of the pagan faith's whom were mostly in it only for there own personal power since they were often drawn from the elite and aristocracy of the old Roman empire then simply changed there allegiance to keep or reclaim there power.
The Church has been used and abused by earthly powers ever since BUT for me it's core values remain true and it's corruption does in no way despoil my faith in Christ himself.
Also remember how Christ was critical of those priests when he walked among us and think on how even more angry he would be in men wearing silk miters, sitting on thrones, hoarding up treasure and behind closed doors having gay orgies and abusing boy's as well as raping nun's - also how he probably would not have gone in for the whole monk and nun thing to begin with - except in the case of the desert fathers were there were some genuine saint's and miracle workers whom served in his name (not that I have anything against Genuine Monk's and Nun's that do simply want to dedicate there lives to Christ but there are orders and there are orders, one sect in particular does not have monasteries they go and live in the worst and poorest places to try to help, heal, pray for and convert them to the Lord these are men and woman that are both far braver than I and far less hypocritical).
Look at the real church, the original one were it was not priests but the whole community sharing in the wealth of the entire church 'as they had need' taking just enough so that they had clothing, shelter, food, care and education and living as one body - sound's awfully socialist to those fake right wing Christian's whom are anything but Christian.
The same Jesus who said if you have two coat's and your brother has non give him the one you are not using - which by default goes well beyond coats the coat was just an example.
The same Jesus whom said the son of man has no place to lay his head AND as you treat the least of these so too do you treat me - yet those fake right wing Christian's often refer to those down and out's that Christ said he was in himself as Bum's and reject them blaming them for society's' ill's rather than looking in the mirror at themselves were they really should start before blaming there brothers and sisters.

I never lost my faith in Christ, I know quite a few that did since they could not separate Christ and Church in there mind's, the church is his but he will destroy it himself if it continues down the path of corruption it has been on for well over a thousand years now.

I have respect for Agnosticism you do not deny God you simply keep an open mind to all possibility's, I would say that I am definitely a believer though - but not a regular church goer though there is an undeniable presence during mass when there are believers in the congregation.

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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: dug88
Lol so SNL has to apologize but I guess they don't mind this?





I guess South Park was more accurate so they have no arguments for them?

no
they just know that the people that create south park will not be apologizing
they have only given 1 in 21 years


And so they shouldn't. Neither should SNL, or any comedian or satirist.

If people don't like what such folks say, I figure it's because they see truth in it that makes them uncomfortable with themselves.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

That's an admiral belief that you have. I don't see anything wrong with the bible, honestly I think it is a beautiful book with many truths in it should you look at them with the right lense. I think many people forget it is translated by imperfect men and cling to particular words or verses while not looking at things as the whole.

To be honest, if I'm honest with myself, I still believe much of what is in the book as truths, maybe not in the metaphysical sense (but who knows), but as a way to conduct yourself and walk in life.

I find it important to note my stance though however when speaking of it so that my beliefs or lack thereof can be caveat to what follows in these types of discussions.

That said, great post LABTECH
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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: pointessa

originally posted by: BomSquad
You know, the Catholic "Church" includes the parishioners too. There are 1.2 BILLION Catholics. I'm sure that a vast majority of them aren't molesting children.

How would you feel if you belonged to a group of conscientious people where a minuscule minority had perpetrated horrendous crimes and now people started treating you as if they represented the whole of your group?

Catholics are 1/6th of all humanity. If you looked at the statistics of any 1/6 of humanity I bet you would find the same percentages of people who do bad things.


By continuing to belong to this church you are indirectly condoning the hideous decisions that were made to perpetuate and protect pedophiles. This does not even include a huge list of abuse to the masses. I have no compassion whatsoever for any "member" of the Catholic church or their hurt feelings. I am just blown away that people continue to bring their kids into this devilish institution.



What church would you recommend that is free of wrongdoing?



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: pteridine

originally posted by: pointessa

originally posted by: BomSquad
You know, the Catholic "Church" includes the parishioners too. There are 1.2 BILLION Catholics. I'm sure that a vast majority of them aren't molesting children.

How would you feel if you belonged to a group of conscientious people where a minuscule minority had perpetrated horrendous crimes and now people started treating you as if they represented the whole of your group?

Catholics are 1/6th of all humanity. If you looked at the statistics of any 1/6 of humanity I bet you would find the same percentages of people who do bad things.


By continuing to belong to this church you are indirectly condoning the hideous decisions that were made to perpetuate and protect pedophiles. This does not even include a huge list of abuse to the masses. I have no compassion whatsoever for any "member" of the Catholic church or their hurt feelings. I am just blown away that people continue to bring their kids into this devilish institution.



What church would you recommend that is free of wrongdoing?


There are plenty of small community churches that resemble what Christ spoke of.

But much of Catholicism operates like a government. I don't think that's conducive when it comes to spirituality.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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It's no surprise that this comes from the denomination that brought us the inquisition. Sore feelings equal sour responses. But, to be fair, mocking Catholics is low hanging fruit.


Combat is the most creative way of saying enable I've ever seen.

Aside from seeing the results of any new "widespread changes", what have they done other than moving people out of areas where they get caught?


The answer is available in their letter:


For nearly two decades, the Diocese of Brooklyn has taken this crisis seriously and instituted widespread changes mandated by the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People.

Those changes include a zero-tolerance policy in which any clergy member credibly accused of sexual abuse of a minor is permanently removed from ministry. Since 2002, the Diocese of Brooklyn has shared all of its files and allegations against clergy with the District Attorneys of Brooklyn and Queens. In 2004, Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio instituted a reporting line that sends reports directly to law enforcement authorities.

The charter also mandates sexual abuse awareness training for all clergy members, teachers, parish/academy/school employees, catechists and volunteers who work directly with children. Employees and volunteers also must agree to initial and ongoing criminal background checks and must sign a code of conduct.

To help victims, the Office of Victim Assistance provides referrals for therapy, support groups for survivors and an annual Healing Mass to pray for all who have been impacted by sexual abuse. The diocese also started the Independent Reconciliation and Compensation Program as another possible mechanism for healing that may help bring closure to victim-survivors of clergy sexual abuse.


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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

i'd like to hear father guido sarducci's take on this.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:08 PM
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During the show's "Weekend Update" segment, the comedian likened supporters of the Catholic Church, which has seen a sex-abuse scandal encompassing thousands of priests, to fans of R. Kelly, who is facing 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse.



I can understand that this isn't a fair comparison, but comedy isn't about logic, it's about getting laughs.


No, it's really not a fair comparison. R Kelly may have made some mistakes, okay, but to even mention his name in the same skits as the Roman Catholic Church is taking things a bit too far. 10 counts of aggravated felony sexual assault is nothing compared to what the Church of the Roman Empire has done.

He is a Saint compared to those mere Priests, Cardinals and Bishops and Popes. Hes just doing what all the celebrities do. It's just his protection has been removed for whatever reason. The elite power structures which had been stable for at least decades, has been a shakin and a quakin... His handler couldve been killed, arrested, or maybe he himself just stepped out of line and is being punished.

No, I am half joking here, because I understand the comparison was between church goers and fans of R Kelly, not the church itself and R Kelly himself.

But, if they really want to go There... well, THAT comparison is actually pretty valid. Church people need to realize that support for the Roman Mother Church is not equated with support for Jesus. The Pope is NOT Gods Earthly representative. He is a man, voted for by other men. Who could believe that the Cardinals College just, happens to have a moment of divine inspiration at the moment they cast their vote, and that there is no pre planning or politics involved?

If you want to have a leader, have a leader. But dont pretend he is chosen by God to lead. He is chosen by humans to lead because humans do not feel confident to lead themselves. They like to have a leader and they like to believe this leader is somehow special, whether they believe the leader has some natural leadership skills or they believe the leader was chosen by God, the fact remains, they believe the leader has Something... something which they themselves lack... something that makes them a more qualified, more adequate, more appropriate leader.
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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:23 PM
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originally posted by: BomSquad
You know, the Catholic "Church" includes the parishioners too. There are 1.2 BILLION Catholics. I'm sure that a vast majority of them aren't molesting children.

How would you feel if you belonged to a group of conscientious people where a minuscule minority had perpetrated horrendous crimes and now people started treating you as if they represented the whole of your group?

Catholics are 1/6th of all humanity. If you looked at the statistics of any 1/6 of humanity I bet you would find the same percentages of people who do bad things.


Would you have become Christian if Jesus had apostles who molested children? Why would anyone follow any organization that has not cleansed itself of any such perverts in the instant they knew? We are responsible for those choices.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse




When you are a business or organization and hire someone who does something wrong, the decision to hire comes from up the ladder, that person is guilty of hiring the bad person, so that person tries to downplay things and cover things up. So the wrongdoer gets away with it and can later do it again.


Maybe you are confused, Jesus did not come to start a business.

How about Galatians 5:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

What happens when you leave the bad apple in the barrel?



9I wrote you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people. 10I was not including the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

11 But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

12 What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”b

1 Corinthians



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: lordcomac
Perhaps it's time for a crusade against organized religion?

Can it be argued that the practice brings about more bad than good these days?
It certainly has its place in perpetuating ignorance.


Our rights we have stem from Christian religions. The governments would not have given us these rights if we did not have the power generated by the Christian people who tried to make this a safer country. Centuries ago, some of the major religions were bad, but in the last few hundred years the religions have become more oriented to protecting the people from criminals and overzealous governments taking everything the people had.

A lot of the problem with today's society is associated with people conning others to get what they want, deception is common here in America. Years ago a news agency that twisted the truth would have gone out of business, people wanted to be told the truth even if it was boring. The governments have always tried to suppress the people, Christianity had lots of members and actually tried to keep government from enslaving the people.

Christianity is nothing like Islam is, Islam does not allow other beliefs in it's countries, especially athiests. It is almost impossible to control Islam if it takes a strong foothold in our country. Islam is not a bad religion, but it suppresses human rights way more than the freedoms we enjoy. I have noticed that Athiests often are not concerned about twisting the evidence and truth to get what they want. I will never join a high Athiest group of individuals because of that reason.



Yes, people focus on the evils done by people who claim to be Christian. They seem to forget that, what these people did is not Christian. They seem to forget that what these people did, the Spanish Inquisition, the Westblrough Baptists, the Pedophile Priests, was to do a huge favor to the enemies of Christianity and hand them a mighty victory. Now that's all people think about. The younger generations, under 30 or so, are especially concerning, because they just believe what people tell them, so much so, that even just mentioning the Bible in a neutral light can elicit a startling reaction.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:45 PM
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If these people who are speaking for the Catholic church were truly repentant of the things that have been happening and exposed, they would instead of condemning the condemnation against them, be apologizing and showing true humility.

But they are not doing this.

This shows the true lack of spiritual character of these people, and it shows who their true master is.

That is not good.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

watch Red Hot Catholic Love, a South Park episode. I think it does a magnificent job of explaining the issue of today, and it was written quite a few years ago.



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