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No Western country has managed to successfully integrate Muslims

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posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: Asktheanimals
2nd generation migrants tend to be more radical than their parents.


That is true for some of the kids here in the UK too but the other half are integrating quite well into society. Many muslim kids want music, partying, opening business and are good for the country. After a few decades of westernisation most muslims are becoming typical Brits. In addition to which it's only the Sunni type that go weird, most other Muslim sects over here are great, my friend is Shia and he detests all the Sunni violence, he says terrorists are violent and in true Islam only animals are violent, not humans.

There will always be issues with any integrating groups, but to be honest no Muslim has personally done me any harm or tried to hurt me, I can't say that of other groups like Sikhs, West Indian Christians or Irish nutters. Most are impecibly well behaved and when I want a late taxi or kebab they are there for us




posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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Other than a few instances, I do believe the professors conclusions are correct. The Muslims cultures are by a long shot incompatible with Western societies, they are also incompatible with many of the Russian countries cultures. I do not know how India has had success with integration, but I do know there has been some problems there between the people too. China and Islam do not go well together either.

The idiots who believe that two totally different cultures can come together are just idiots. The Native Americans culture took many generations to be accepted by the people settling this country, yet they were here first. I like most of the Native Americans I have met, but there are a few crabby Native Americans out there that I know will never like me.

I am against this movement of Muslims into the countries without proper social integration, it just stirs up chaos which will lead to an outright hate by many people to the Muslim people. I know some Muslims and they are decent people, they came here to get away from the ideology of the Middle East and want to live along side us. There are also a lot of Muslims that want to convert everyone here to Islam, that is the goal of Allah.

Not all Muslims are bad, but this migration is not right, we need to help them and create a safe haven in their own countries, not haul them over here. I do not want to see the majority of people in this country and Western societies start to hate all Muslims because of the idiotic policies of a few people at the top. We need to get rid of the idiots at the top and send the Muslims back to areas in their countries where they can feel safe.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: ufoorbhunter


a 'western' nation/country/society will always be a thorn-in-the-side of the Muslim way-of-life... it's like trying to mix Oil & Water, it cannot be done without extremely altering the composition of either the Oil or the Water ->

but the false appearance of blending Oil & Water can be achieved... about like what Pope Francis is plotting with the recent power point meetings with Islam & Mormon Leaderships

ETA: www.bing.com... and+islam&sc=0-50&sk=&cvid=758FC54F6DD448E2A0C5AEC6575BC41D
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posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: ufoorbhunter


a 'western' nation/country/society will always be a thorn-in-the-side of the Muslim way-of-life


But Islam actually is part of the West
Part of the Abrahamic world, part of all our history, just like Christianity and Judaism. Muslims never did us any harm in the past, we all lived together once and now there is a campaign on BOTH sides to split the Abrahamic world apart and force us into conflict. Where is this campaign to divide us up into camps coming from? Who knows but it's outside the west probably and might well be from eastern Asia or even Commie tactics to bring about a destruction of our society so another way of life can take over. Muslims have fought for the British Empir for hundreds of years, heck they even ran non Islamic asia for the Crown
We can and will one day live together as most do today bar a few thousand rotten apples. Not excusing the radical sbtw, they need taking out and any of these volunteer ISIS wannabes from our western states need executing as an example of what not to do. But the majority of muslims are generally extremely nice people



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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Those who follow Religion - Muslim or not - are not interested in integrating, only extending reach. We've had enough history to know this for certain.
The problem arises when the extremists within a religion turn to force in order to extend their reach.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Probably because of culture. I couldn't imagine trying to assimilate in a muslim country either. It's not for white people. I'd rather stick to my own anyways, unless I had a motive for trying to assimilate there.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

Your biggest issue in Germany isn't muslims, it's Africans sneaking over there.


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posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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originally posted by: JDmOKI

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: oloufo

For some reason I don't believe you about that list. Basically your post reminds me of " I have black friends so I can't be racist"

I'm glad you've had a great experience with Muslims I have too actually but our little life bubbles doesnt address the subject.

Plus can you really say the turks in Germany have integrated smoothly after all this time?


of course they do! it seems you don't know how is it to live in germany, right? there are radicals, yes, like christian radicals, neonazis, left-wing-radicals, but these are minorities. maybe you took a ride and watch for yourself. no shooting, no violence. by the way, we have around 80.000 muslims in munich and its still one of the safest cities to live in the world.



OK the population in Munich is 1.45 million how do you expect a small population of 80000 in a video as a good example?

And what's with this epidemic of radical neo nazis and Christian radicals in Germany. I live in the US south how rampent is this crisis in Europe of white radical Christian nazis? I just thought I was at ground zero

But Munich does like very nice. I'd like to visit at some point


you should! its wonderful here in summertime. fact is: there were a few major extremists attacks in germany in the last 50 years. first was the attacks at the olympics 1972 - the attackers were from palastine and they killed 11 folks from israel. the oktoberfest attack in 1980 with 12 deads and 250 hurt by bomb. it was an neonazi. between 2000 and 2007 the national socialist underground, a neonazi group, killed nine immigrants and one policewoman. 2016 the masshooting in munich. the young man killed nine people. he was a right-wing-extremist. 2018 the attack in berlin wich killed 13 people. it was a radical islamist. in the 90s there were plenty of neonazi-attacks, for example the solingen arson attack. some neonazis set fire to the house of a large Turkish family and killed 5 people. 1991 a mob of 500 mostly neonazis attacking a a hostel used by asylum seekers. they thrown stones and petrol bombs at the appartment block. 32 people were hurt.

forgot to mention the RAF - a left-wing-terrorgroup. they spread terror in the 70s.

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posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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Spain was run by Islam for 700 years. They did OK.

Why are you so afraid of ideas?

Cowards.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: shapur
a reply to: 727Sky

But I have seen a lot of Muslims in Canada and the US getting around easily and mixing well with the society.It also depends on ones personality and the intensity of their beliefs...Besides,I am not sure if anyone can integrate fully and completely in any society.
It’s only a surface thing. They believe in Taqiyya (lying to infidels) while they quietly promote Sharia Law and try to assert certain things into society. Look, now we have Ilhan Omar and Tlaib making wild radical comments and swearing in to office on the Quran. They believe in things like 72 Virgins waiting for them in heaven ( yes they really do—-I know first hand ) as well as multiple marriages, honor killing and so on. They will refuse to eat in a restaurant area with a bar, and that’s even the moderate Sunni. There have been skirmishes in picnics and parks where they have tried to keep infidels out of their private events. You can find evidence of that on YouTube.
People, especially liberals have been naive. Also I have been to Tunisia.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: eletheia
a reply to: 727Sky



I have a policy *Never mix politics and religion*

Its like trying to mix oil with water ........They just dont mix




When the u.s. was one nation under God it was the strongest ever.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

I think we both know that your muslim friends, that do not take their religion as serious as the fanatics, are not the problem.

I know some turkish families through family relations, I would not go so far to call them my friends but they are well integrated and do not live the religious lifestyle of arabic muslims. Their ancestors came here decades ago and they still roam in their own culture. I do not see a problem with that if they accept our social structures and culture and adapt to a certain degree.

So to act like your muslim friends that obviously are not taking their religion as serious as most who come here freshly are a good representation is dishonest. We could talk about segration by own decision, too. Whole city blocks and not only Turkish but also Russians and German-Russians.

You see how that worked out in some districts like for example in Kreuzberg, Berlin.

You know that, I know that. I see you come from Munich. Want to go swimming with me one day when it is immigrant day at our local public pool? You will see how much they care about our cultural rules and respect towards women.

Have you ever been to an arabic muslim country as a guest?

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posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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Followers of Islam have lived just fine in the U.S. for a very long time now in all walks of life.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky




Just about every Muslim cleric who is interviewed says the laws of Allah supersedes the man made laws of a country.


the quote talks about rules

what is one rule in the Quran about following the laws of the land where a Muslim resides?


Not all Muslims will follow that rule

Alcohol..... many Muslims Drink and eat Bacon.

This painting of Islam and Muslims with a wide brushstroke the way its been done for quote some time now just shows how easily many need fear to dictate their lives and how ignorance allows it.




to all who spread their "love" of division, no better than ISIS and those sick fanatics from all walks of life on an ideological level.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: KellyKill
Spain was run by Islam for 700 years. They did OK.

Why are you so afraid of ideas?

Cowards.


What was your old username?

New posters don't usually snip talk the same day their accounts get created.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: Oleandra88
a reply to: oloufo

I think we both know that your muslim friends, that do not take their religion as serious as the fanatics, are not the problem.

I know some turkish families through family relations, I would not go so far to call them my friends but they are well integrated and do not live the religious lifestyle of arabic muslims.

So to act like your muslim friends that obviously are not taking their religion as serious as most who come here freshly are a good representation is dishonest.

You know that, I know that. I see you come from Munich. Want to go swimming with me one day when it is immigrant day at our local public pool? You will see how much they care about our cultural rules and respect towards women.

Have you ever been to an arabic muslim country as a guest?





i've been to turkey for holidays long time ago. it was nice. i know people traveling through afghanistan and they survived. you know, most people are friendly and peaceful. immigrant day? whats that?(: i once talked to a muslim woman in a public swimming center, she was learning to swim (a german pool attendant teaching her) and she wear a swimming jihab and i asked her about this while she tried not to drown. it was a funny chat i can tell you. yes, she wear it because of her religion on here own will, she said - i believed her.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: neo96
Neo-nazi95



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: KellyKill

I know he can be a douche but come on.



posted on Mar, 11 2019 @ 11:45 AM
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I agree with other posters, all religions are a pain in the arse to integrate. Condemning people who don't feel the need to follow outdated moral codes. Christianity still infects the politics of the UK but thankfully is being forced out.



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