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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: network dude
Definitely don't agree but people need to be clear that they are talking about local elections.
Not federal
For the record
Still dont agree
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: network dude
Definitely don't agree but people need to be clear that they are talking about local elections.
Not federal
For the record
Still don't agree
Nope, me neither. I don't think anyone here illegally should be able to vote in city, state or federal elections, period. It's to bad that most minorities are oblivious to the fact that they're merely being used as pawns and nothing more.
If someone is here illegally then ice is not doing their job. Oh look another failure of government that is forcefully financially supported by the threat of violence.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: network dude
I wonder which city or even county will be the first where we see Sharia Law being used? This is dangerous on so many levels.
This country has had Jewish Sect Laws, Amish Laws, and other specific religions group laws for a long time.
Sharia Law wouldn't be any different.
None of them supercede US Constitutional law.
It’s not a matter of having a strange system. That which was set up by our Founders after the American Revolution is the best in the world, but not infallible. World socialism
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
Forgive this foreigner for chiming in, but how the bloody hell can an illegal immigrant vote for the representatives of the Government of a country he's living under illegally??? Does that mean I could pop over on my hols and vote too? So strange your system
originally posted by: Dr4c0n
CAUTION DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE OUTSIDE OF YOUR RIGHT WING BUBBLE.
OK I know this won't change the minds of the idiots from the alt right but here some more information about what was actually voted on.
House passes H.R. 1, a sweeping anti-corruption and voting rights bill
Democrats passed House Resolution 1 (H.R. 1) Friday, a bill which could be the most sweeping anti-corruption measure passed by the House of Representatives in a generation, by a vote of 234 to 193. The bill focuses on voting rights, campaign finance, and government ethics.
Campaign finance
It seeks to create incentives for elected officials to rely on small donors, rather than large corporate contributions, when running for office and proposes new disclosure requirements on the source of donor money.
Voting rights
The bill seeks to expand early voting, create same-day voter registration, save eligible voters from "voter purging," and creates a pathway for re-enfranchisement for those who have lost voting privileges due to felony convictions. There is also an amendment to make Election Day a holiday for federal workers.
Anti-corruption
Third, there is a focus on anti-corruption measures. H.R. 1 would require presidential and vice-presidential candidates to disclose their income tax returns and wants paper ballots to be used in federal elections, mainly to reduce the risk of electronic voting machines being hacked.
But since the Republican control the senate and this bill hopes to expand Americans' access to the ballot box, reduce the influence of big money in politics, and strengthen ethics rules for public servants and for other purposes. Anything anti corruption will not pass the republican controlled Senate.
H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2019
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: network dude
Definitely don't agree but people need to be clear that they are talking about local elections.
Not federal
For the record
Still don't agree
Nope, me neither. I don't think anyone here illegally should be able to vote in city, state or federal elections, period. It's to bad that most minorities are oblivious to the fact that they're merely being used as pawns and nothing more.
If someone is here illegally then ice is not doing their job. Oh look another failure of government that is forcefully financially supported by the threat of violence.
Anyone with smarts would know that's an egregious oversimplification.
In my heart of hearts, I believe we have a moral responsibility to restore access for all citizens, who desire to participate in the democratic process. Many people marched and protested for the right to vote. Some gave a little blood, and others gave their very lives.
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: network dude
Definitely don't agree but people need to be clear that they are talking about local elections.
Not federal
For the record
Still don't agree
Nope, me neither. I don't think anyone here illegally should be able to vote in city, state or federal elections, period. It's to bad that most minorities are oblivious to the fact that they're merely being used as pawns and nothing more.
If someone is here illegally then ice is not doing their job. Oh look another failure of government that is forcefully financially supported by the threat of violence.
Anyone with smarts would know that's an egregious oversimplification.
It may be a generalized read of the situation but it is true.
Too much government failure and too many people protecting failure of the system.
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: UncleTomahawk
originally posted by: mtnshredder
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: network dude
Definitely don't agree but people need to be clear that they are talking about local elections.
Not federal
For the record
Still don't agree
Nope, me neither. I don't think anyone here illegally should be able to vote in city, state or federal elections, period. It's to bad that most minorities are oblivious to the fact that they're merely being used as pawns and nothing more.
If someone is here illegally then ice is not doing their job. Oh look another failure of government that is forcefully financially supported by the threat of violence.
Anyone with smarts would know that's an egregious oversimplification.
It may be a generalized read of the situation but it is true.
Too much government failure and too many people protecting failure of the system.
Only only failure here is one side wanting to circumvent law (sanctuary cities etc) and one side wanting to uphold law.
you do realize that only one of those Faith's you listed actually calls for death of non believers, right? Only one allows and encourages stoning... is that the type of law system you really want to have? I know I personally dont. It would be similar to living back in the crusades, believe or die. Not a fun prospect.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: network dude
I wonder which city or even county will be the first where we see Sharia Law being used? This is dangerous on so many levels.
This country has had Jewish Sect Laws, Amish Laws, and other specific religions group laws for a long time.
Sharia Law wouldn't be any different.
None of them supercede US Constitutional law.
from what i read it would indeed allow non-citizens to vote and not be punished for violating American law.
(c) Protection of election integrity.—Nothing in subsections (a) or (b) may be construed to prohibit or restrict any action under color of law against an individual who—
(1) knowingly and willfully makes a false statement to effectuate or perpetuate automatic voter registration by any individual; or
(2) casts a ballot knowingly and willfully in violation of State law or the laws of the United States.
Of course. Take a single statement completely out of context.
This is what else Lewis said:
"In my heart of hearts, I believe we have a moral responsibility to restore access for all citizens, who desire to participate in the democratic process. Many people marched and protested for the right to vote. Some gave a little blood, and others gave their very lives."
Here's his whole speech, not that you care.
Rep. John Lewis on the Passage of HR 1, the For the People Act
And, not that you care, here is the bill.
H.R.1 - For the People Act of 2019
Anyone care to find the part about allowing non-citizens to vote?
You are reading it incorrectly. That section has nothing to do with voting. It is in regard to automatic registration and it offers protections to people who are improperly registered through no direct action of their own. It has nothing to do with allowing non-citizens to vote and, in fact, is quite specific in stating that the protection does not cover anyone who votes illegally.
(c) Protection of election integrity.—Nothing in subsections (a) or (b) may be construed to prohibit or restrict any action under color of law against an individual who—
(1) knowingly and willfully makes a false statement to effectuate or perpetuate automatic voter registration by any individual; or
(2) casts a ballot knowingly and willfully in violation of State law or the laws of the United States.
Voting illegally is not protected. But it's moot because McConnell will not allow the bill to be voted on by the Senate.