Tommy Robinson, that scoundrel.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I'm all for liberty and freedom, I also believe that if your going to break the laws of the land you will find yourself locked up, I'm not sure if you've ever been in front of a judge but they hold power and if you are held in contempt of court you will be severely punished, judges have very big egos and they are in a very high powered position.

It's just dumb to push your luck like he did and to claim its a violation of liberty is being dishonest.

a reply to: Crumps

I've been stitched up by the law before, I know all to well to avoid them at all costs, the job of a cop is to arrest people.

a reply to: gallop

A wee poem about Tommy

"Goodbye England’s plum
May you never grow in our hearts
You were the guy who got put in prison
For broadcasting outside our courts.

You called out to our country
And almost nobody replied
You incited hatred against a Syrian schoolboy
Then admitted that you’d lied.

Your goosesteps will always fall here
Along England’s greenest hills
Your Facebook page reached its end long before
Your substantial legal bills." Emlyn Pearce

a reply to: bastion

He headbutted the guy for being racist.

He headbutted someone because he knew he had his entourage around him who would stop it getting out of hand.
He's a bellend who's never had a one on one in his life and isn't worth a nut.

Tommy is certainly not racist to non-Asians......

Not too sure about that but I'd like to think you're right.
For me the jury is out on that one.

..... and regularly got in fights with people for saying racist things in the EDL....

With his henchmen behind him....I assure you, when it comes to that he has no respect from anyone who knows anything about it.

.... but when he's on the coke he does slip into calling people 'P*akis'.

A lot of people like a bit of this and that.....the majority don't go around being a wanker though.
Obviously some do....but that's a discussion for another time and place.

When he's sober he can hold a reasonable discussion......

Sometimes....in between trying to be the big I AM, his grandstanding, self-promoting and spouting outright lies.
The valid points he makes, and there's no denying he does sometimes, just get lost in the midst of all the other #e he does and says.

..... but he's got problems when it comes to the beak.

As do many, many other people....including a lot of those who condemn and vilify him.
If that was his only 'sin' it wouldn't really be a problem for many....but it isn't.

a reply to: bastion

And as for him being labelled 'far-right', I don't agree.

Yes, he is bigoted and prejudiced against Muslims.

But I've never seen or heard him stating that one race is superior to another, advocating racial genocide or supporting the abolition of the democratic process in favour of a right-wing totalitarian dictatorship etc.

Personally I find so many of these politically correct labels and designations ridiculous.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

It's just dumb to push your luck like he did and to claim its a violation of liberty is being dishonest.

It's not at all dishonest, if anything it's an understatement, he has already been held in solitary confinement for months, and they're only now trying to charge him again after his exposure of Panorama. There's no way to justify fascist treatment of a person simply because they hold political beliefs the state doesn't agree with. There's no other western nation where something like this would be allowed to occur. You guys in the UK really need to stop being so passive, or worse, trying to justify this type of nanny state tyranny, otherwise before long you'll find yourself living in a prison of your own creation.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I would agree with if he didn't go looking for trouble, he quite literally opened himself up to this, standing up to Johnny law and saying pick me.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

.....he has already been held in solitary confinement for months,.....

He was segregated from other prisoners for 48hours during his assessment.
Not something all prisoners have to endure but by no means a unique experience.

.....and they're only now trying to charge him again after his exposure of Panorama.

Yes, ridiculous....but again not unique.

There's people with far more extreme views here in the UK walking about quite freely.
The difference is they don't flaunt and break the law with anywhere near as much regularity or with such self-generated publicity.

Its not perfect here in the UK - far, far from it - but its not the totalitarian state you seem to both believe and wish it to be.
I quite frequently openly express my dissatisfaction and even disgust for various aspects of UK society....I've never been arrested by the thought police, never been questioned or felt threatened by them and am quite free to go about my business more or less as I see fit.....I dare say pretty much the same as you can.

But I don't expect you to believe me because obviously you know better than me even though I live here in the UK, have travelled quite extensively and have quite a substantial amount of personal experience that allows me to compare day to day life in the UK with that of many other places.

a reply to: Freeborn

The difference is they don't flaunt and break the law with anywhere near as much regularity or with such self-generated publicity.

This argument that he was "asking for it" or because he publicizes his activity he deserves to be locked up is pure nonsense and the talk of someone trying to justify a clear violation of liberty. You can spin it anyway you want but that is the way I see it.

Btw I starred your post about him not having clearly done or said anything to make him racist or far-right, it seems we can agree on some things.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

I understand and acknowledge that, as with most things, nothing surrounding Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is black and white.

As I've said on numerous occasions, he does voice some valid points and his treatment by MSM and even sometimes the authorities is at times unjustified.
But that doesn't excuse all the other #e that surrounds him, all his posturing and self-aggrandising.
It doesn't excuse his more than occasional lying and exaggerations or him generally being a complete and utter arsehole.

The sad thing is he's the only voice that far, far too many people think they have and that no-one else is either prepared and wanting to stand up for them.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: gallop

I care about him now. I care that a racist thug and his ignorant cronies are trying to bully their way into politics, threatening and intimidating people in their homes. And let's use his real name shall we? Not a persona he's adopted to try and hide his past and appeal to the stupid.

Ok provide a racist comment made by him?

You haven’t got anything just far left accusations from a George Soros funded propaganda group 😂

Let's be clear here - Robinson is bigoted towards Muslims, particularly Pakistani's. I don;t think that can be denied. I think it is religious prejudice as opposed to racism. He seems to have no problem with Sikhs, Hindu's , black people, far eastern people etc... just Islam. He often fails to qualify his issue as being focused on radical islam and that is where he runs into trouble. He's also what I would call a chancer - he'll break some minor laws if he can get away with it.

Let's not confuse disgust with the way he has been treated by our Govt with validation of the negative aspects of his character and history.

Britain is majority Pakistani Muslim, which isn't a race it's the Identity of the statistics in which he highlighting

Unfortunately that's just a fact, if it's racist to highlight that then the problem will never be resolved

What is the problem within this community which see such racism towards young WHITE none Muslim women?

Is that really so hard to understand?

Are you suggesting blame everybody the same colour as Pakistani Muslims?

Because that would be racist wouldn't it?

So how is the problem best resolved? By not speaking about it? Because you're afraid to be labelled as such ? Like the authorities did for 40 years ?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: bastion

And as for him being labelled 'far-right', I don't agree.

Yes, he is bigoted and prejudiced against Muslims.

But I've never seen or heard him stating that one race is superior to another, advocating racial genocide or supporting the abolition of the democratic process in favour of a right-wing totalitarian dictatorship etc.

Personally I find so many of these politically correct labels and designations ridiculous.

I agree with what you're saying but tommy doesn't criticise Muslims

He criticises the ideology of Islam as being responsible for radical islam and hostilities towards none Muslims

The far left communists and globalists attack him because the far left want the Muslim vote, and the globalists need the mass immigration for votes towards their socialist agenda and One World Government - open boarders - divide and rule - nation killing agenda

Hence why we see the government attacking the SECONDARY PROBLEM/REACTION to Islamic extreamism Tommy Robinson - while ISIS fighters are allowed to return, given new identities free housing and benefits

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: bastion

And as for him being labelled 'far-right', I don't agree.

Yes, he is bigoted and prejudiced against Muslims.

But I've never seen or heard him stating that one race is superior to another, advocating racial genocide or supporting the abolition of the democratic process in favour of a right-wing totalitarian dictatorship etc.

Personally I find so many of these politically correct labels and designations ridiculous.

I agree with what you're saying but tommy doesn't criticise Muslims

He criticises the ideology of Islam as being responsible for radical islam and hostilities towards none Muslims

The far left communists and globalists attack him because the far left want the Muslim vote, and the globalists need the mass immigration for votes towards their socialist agenda and One World Government - open boarders - divide and rule - nation killing agenda

Hence why we see the government attacking the SECONDARY PROBLEM/REACTION to Islamic extreamism Tommy Robinson - while ISIS fighters are allowed to return, given new identities free housing and benefits

Robinson often claims he is targeting the ideology rather than the people but his words & actions often show different.

'
Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.'

This is how I see it... Freedom Of Speech Trump's - Blasphemy Laws

Facts Trump - Bigotry Claims

Democracy Trump's - Communism

I would describe my self as a centrist, I am politically left wing, I do agree with certain levels of socialist ideas, but full blown socialism is bad, at the same time I'm very conservative, definitely a patriot, against big government and control

But I'm definitely anti islam, Islam is political and that is indisputable, Sharia law is backwards and regressive and the prophet is every bit as evil as Hitler was, the Muslims people describe as moderate peaceful Muslims are just political Islam and the goal is still the same islamic dominance for Islam is a complete system as much as our own,it all boils down to ideologies, which transcends RACE - that's it period unless you're a racebaiting far left propagandist

Here's the problem, the globist British government and far left organisations and big tech are absolutely using the FASCIST tactics to silence Tommy Robinsons freedom of his speech because they're IN THE WRONG

There is no other way to silence what Tommy Robinson is free to say and politically while backing it up with indisputable FACTS stats and data and doing it politically - that's what free speech is their for to challenge IDEAS - The POLITICAL OPPOSITION - and BAD IDEOLOGYS

They're LOSSING and so they're using dirty unjust fascist tactics it is THAT simple

This is exactly how the world has already naturally self organised over the past 4.000 years the GOOD ideas was susessfull the bad ideas turned into SITHOLE'S and now the globalists elites are looking to consolidate their political sphere of influence under a new system

I completely understand it will cause hatred if Tommy Robinson is allowed his free speech against the islamic ideology, and that's why they're using fascist methods to silence him, because without a shadow of a doubt Muslims will become more enraged and carry out acts of terrorism towards the British government should the British government do what they should have done from day one. Which was understand that if you're going to import Muslims you're be dividing your communities ideologically and creating communities within communities = division and competition for power and control

China seems to understand this fact as do many other countries and have began pushing back

This is also the reason for the partition of india, and proof of what's to come, hundreds of years of bloodshed, the government had NO integration and naturalisation plan from the begining and continued with mass immigration for the globalists agenda, that was mistake number one and for the past 40 years there have been hundreds of mistake by the British government in dealing with islamic extremists, they should have identified the problem way back then and decided on the grounds of national integrity and peaceful cohesive population to ban any further islamic immigration

It clearly doesn't create peaceful cohesive society's and Islam has a submit or die doctrine weather they do it politically or by the sword, it had NEVER EVER lead to a peaceful coehesive society unless islamic conquest takes place, in which case it turns out like the middle east... or retaliation/push back,why would it be any different?

Islamic immigration is social engineering civil war

Period