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500 million each year in foreign Aid to countries sending caravans to the US

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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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El Salvador. Guatemala. Honduras. 500 million a year combined. Those amounts have all risen except El Salvador which has been cut in half in the last 2 years.

El Salvador
Honduras
Guatemala

There is no war in these countries. There are no religious conflicts or persecution. They all ride buses now through another country, Mexico, that is given close to 300 million in aid each year.

Why is this continuing to be allowed? We have US House members going to the border. We have people running for office going to the borders. All of them leaving their districts.

Look at this. Homelessness and hunger in our own country....

Link to Seattle Homeless

Yet here we have elected US official coaching those who are crossing our border illegally.




The congresswoman, who arrived in Tijuana, Mexico on Friday, told Politico earlier Friday that she wanted to see the conditions asylum seekers face when attempting to apply for U.S. residence at the border for herself. “When I read the report about a week ago that kids and moms were being tear gassed, I just couldn’t sleep,” Jayapal told Politico on Saturday. “I want to go see for myself what is happening, what happens to asylum seekers as they get to the border, how are they turned back, what’s happening to them in between, where the conditions in which they’re living.”

The congresswoman's office told The Hill Saturday afternoon that Jayapal was hoping to meet with asylum seekers. "She hopes to meet with asylum seekers to hear their stories and observe conditions on the ground. She hopes to bring this back to the American people and her colleagues and highlight the ongoing crisis and the US government’s contribution to what’s happening," Jayapal spokesman told The Hill in an email.


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she further states...



"I will continue to do everything I can to return our country to one that upholds decency, compassion and human rights," the Washington state Democrat added.


She is a House member from Seattle WA. NO reason for her to be at the border. None. But this shows who wants them here and why....votes. Future votes because the left is losing the current Hispanic as well as the African-American vote. Do not fool yourself into thinking it is anything more. They do not want to help or they would be at their own districts.

That 500 million in aid could build 100's of feet of a wall...

Us IMmigration states the following

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You can seek asylum for the following if suffering persecution from...

Race
Religion
Nationality
Membership in a particular social group
Political opinion

None of those in the caravans meet these qualifications. They are however being coached. To show it is not partisan I have 3 articles.

The HIll
NPR
Daily Caller

From the HIll article




Central American migrants aren’t seeking asylum, they’re activists challenging US sovereignty © Getty Images Let’s clear up some misconceptions about the 1,500 or so Central Americans who have now arrived at our southern border. They are not asylum seekers — they are publicity seekers. People who are truly escaping political persecution at the hands of their government — the legal standard for being recognized as a refugee or asylee — request protection in the first neutral country they enter. They do not traverse a rather large country like Mexico, trailed by television cameras, to reach the U.S. border.

And if they did not trust the Mexican government to treat their asylum claims fairly, they would have sought protection from international entities, like the U.N. high commissioner for refugees.

They are not spontaneously fleeing their homelands in Central America because circumstances in those countries have taken a sudden turn for the worse. Those nations have been dysfunctional, corrupt, impoverished, and crime-ridden for as long as anyone can remember. The “caravaners” are part of an orchestrated effort on the part of a group calling itself Pueblos Sin Fronteras, “People without Borders,” to challenge the sovereignty of the United States. As the group’s name suggests, Pueblos Sin Fronteras believes that anybody has the right to enter any nation (most especially the United States) whenever they want to and that we have a legal and moral obligation to let them in so long as they don’t show up in tanks. The clear objectives of Pueblos Sin Fronteras are to exploit the humanitarian policies of the United States and to take advantage of our asylum system that was carefully crafted to protect the oppressed, not reward opportunists.

The United States is under no legal or moral obligation to allow politically motivated organizations to use our humanitarianism and our legal system as a weapon in their assault on our national sovereignty. The real intent of the organizers is to get caravan members into the United States because they know that, once in the country, it will be extremely difficult for the government to ever remove them. To achieve this end, Pueblos Sin Fronteras along with “legal aid” groups are openly coaching the migrants about what they need to say to immigration officials in order to make a facially valid asylum claim.


To me, it is a humanitarian crisis and we as a country already give these peoples countries half a billion dollars. I will BET that some of the aid provided is used in these caravans.

If we are giving them all of that money and people are still pouring out of the country it is time to redirect those funds to cities in the US that could use it.



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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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Spend it on the Wall.

The US government excels at paying people for doing nothing, but damn.

It's time we actually get something in return.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: neo96

There need to be no more comments after that one.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:19 PM
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hmm - IF the US ceased all foregin aid to the countries cited who thinks :

A ecconomic migration will increase ?

B ecconomic migration will decrease ?

C ecconomic migration will remain the same ?

please give reasons for answers


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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: ignorant_ape

C, because that foreign aid is pocketed by those in power. The poor never see, or get any benefit from it.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: ignorant_ape
hmm - IF the US ceased all foregin aid to the countries cited who thinks :

A ecconomic migration will increase ?

B ecconomic migration will decrease ?

C ecconomic migration will remain the same ?

please give reasons for answers

How about,
D Don't GAF how many or how few come because our border will be secure enough to handle it.

Come in legally at a point of entry and you are welcomed, provided you go through the process like everyone else.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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Is Trump authorizing this money? How is it getting there?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I agree 100% that the dems don't really care about the immigrants. They don't even look at them as people. They just see them as votes.
That's why the dems want to allow non-citizens, even illegals, to vote. How insane is that?

It's already happening.

Non-Citizen Voters



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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I'm sure the aid we send isn't even utilized by the citizens of those countries. As someone stated, it's most likely just pocketed or wasted on things for the elites and their much higher standard of living.

Shutting down aid would probably cause those in power to "punish" us by sending more migrants.

Thankfully, it wouldn't take much to put an end to all this.

Shut down aid, build the wall and put sanctions/financial stress on countries that allow these groups to "pass through" knowing we are the ones who will ultimately suffer the consequences of the immigration. Countries like mexico, if stuck with the financial repercussions(both from a closed border and migrants stalling in their country and sanctions), will get off their butts and get serious about the problem. It would ultimately help them in the end too.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

And we get what in return? The knowledge that we're generating good will?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: matafuchs
I agree 100% that the dems don't really care about the immigrants. They don't even look at them as people. They just see them as votes.


Anyone who doesn't care about the lives of our children, even after they're born, is totally without morals. To expect them to care about immigrants, or any of us for that matter, is fantasy-land.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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Good luck finding the info but i was hearing reports that in the last spending bill we authorized several billion in aid to countries to the south.

5 billion if i remember right. The news was kinda squashed by the wall funding issue.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk

Didn't read it all or check the links did you? It takes you right to your question and gives you the answer....



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I did not really have a question and was just pointing out that we just severely increased the amount of aid to those countries.

Also you confused immigration and asylum in the op.

A continuous wall only herds them to texas to cross at the river.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: CosmicAwakening
Is Trump authorizing this money? How is it getting there?

Seriously?

If you are not trolling, and this is a serious question, I suggest you research the basic operation of the legislative, and executive branches of our government.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

Congress critters and other pond scum seem to overly interested in supporting illegals, criminals and invaders, rather that their own districts. Are they being paid off by foreign nationals and other unsavory interests or are they simply stupid? Either way, it doesn't look good, vote these traitorous morons out!

Cheers - Dave



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

If your argument is that we should use more tax money to feed the hungry , house the homeless, and take care of our own better before spending it all on others. I'm all for that.

Would you feel differently about helping others if you didn't feel like the caravans were a threat? How big of a role does the propaganda surrounding those caravans play in how you feel about foreign aid to those specific countries.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




And we get what in return?


Good question.

I like to believe that we are getting something though i don't know what. Perhaps a more stable world?



The knowledge that we're generating good will?

That's honestly good enough for me.

Unlike some of the other posters I don't believe all the countries that receive aid from us are governed by bad people who pocket the money. Sure it happens sometimes.

It would be nice to know exactly what those countries do with the money. In fact there should be a law requiring that those countries must prove what they have done with the money or else no longer reserve it.

Do we have any laws like that?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk

I didn't confuse anything. I know the difference but obviously you do not.

So, explain, why anyone from any of those three countries could seek asylum. A specific instance not a talking point.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: UncleTomahawk

I didn't confuse anything. I know the difference but obviously you do not.

So, explain, why anyone from any of those three countries could seek asylum. A specific instance not a talking point.



Having myself list legit reasons a judge would grant asylum is beside the point that it is legal for anyone from any country to cross between ports and make the claim of needing asylum.

We are in agreement that many claims may not be worthy of being granted asylum.







 
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