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H.I.V. Is Reported Cured in a Second Patient, a Milestone in the Global AIDS Epidemic

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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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NY Times


Scientists have long tried to duplicate the procedure that led to the first long-term remission 12 years ago. With the so-called London patient, they seem to have succeeded.


This is fantastic news. Reproducible results is the cornerstone of scientific endeavor. It doesn't always happen in a timely manner, but that is how science works.

For all the darkness spread by some, there is light shining now.




posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Hopefully some of the knowledge gained from this "cure" can be applied to curing the 800 pound gorilla in the room...CANCER.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: projectvxn

Hopefully some of the knowledge gained from this "cure" can be applied to curing the 800 pound gorilla in the room...CANCER.


HIV is a virus, whereas cancer is a mutation....

Ironically it may be a virus that becomes the cure for cancer



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Look at Magic Johnson money is the cure .. Wish they would get rid of all STD's wouldn't mind giving a orgy a try before I die

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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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Good to hear the are making some headway.

My only gripe is that HIV is largely preventable. It is almost entirely a behavioral disease that primarily affects gay men having unprotected anal sex and drug addicts sharing needles.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Funnily enough there was a story in The Daily Mail (UK newspaper) about an elderly woman with lung cancer who refused treatment. She cured herself with CBD oil.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Funnily enough there was a story in The Daily Mail (UK newspaper) about an elderly woman with lung cancer who refused treatment. She cured herself with CBD oil.


I've heard a lot of stories about people using homeopathic methods and curing themselves... And I believe them.

Problem is it's not one size fits all, which many of them would have you think. Even "modern" techniques work for some and not for others... Which is what makes cancer and it's many possible forms so hard to treat/cure.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Just to correct you, homeopathy is nothing but water. CBD is a whole different thing. (Personally I'm a proponent of full-spectrum Cannabis oil but that's another story.)



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: LightSpeedDriver

Maybe it's different for regions or languages. Homeopathic here means using a natural approach to remedy an ailment.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

No, there is a global consensus on what homeopathy means.
Homeopathy

Homeopathy or homœopathy is a system of alternative medicine developed in 1796 by Samuel Hahnemann, based on his doctrine of like cures like, a claim that a substance that causes the symptoms of a disease in healthy people would cure similar symptoms in sick people.


Today, this system is latched onto by crooks who steal money from sick people.

There is NO legitimate use for homeopathy.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Woops....

I thought it was natural medicine.

We're all wrong sometimes and I'm wrong now.

Duly noted.
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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 04:15 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated




My only gripe is that HIV is largely preventable. It is almost entirely a behavioral disease that primarily affects gay men having unprotected anal sex and drug addicts sharing needles.


I would say you are mostly right in that statement. But also preventable it seams from HIV-prevention drug Truvada, also known as PrEP.

Apparently around $100 a year in other countries, but $20,000 a year here...

www.wbur.org...



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Gargoyle91

What Magic Johnson, and others with the money, did is not a cure. It's a medical intervention that suppresses but does not completely eliminate the virus, if they stop taking the medications, within a few months the HIV will come back.

What happened for the Berlin patient, and I guess now the London patient, is a cure. They don't need to take any HIV medications anymore and in the Berlin patient's case, he has been clear of the virus for more than a decade.

And it happened largely by accident. He was being treated for leukemia. They gave him a bone marrow transplant, from a donor with the CCR5-Delta32 mutation* just to see what it would do, and he developed graft vs host disease, the new bone marrow rejected his body, and that from all appearances is what cured him. CCR5-Delta32 bone marrow doesn't seem to have played a role in the cure, it was apparently just the graft vs host disease that did the trick. Should also be noted graft vs host disease can be lethal, not so great when the potential cure for the disease can itself be a death sentence.

*People who inherit the CCR5-Delta32 mutation from both parents are immune to the most common type of HIV due to their cells not having the receptor for the HIV virus to attach to. Those people are also immune to smallpox and bubonic plague. When people inherit it from one parent, as 10% to 15% of people of European descent do, they are more resistant to those diseases but not completely immune.
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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: projectvxn

Woops....

I thought it was natural medicine.

We're all wrong sometimes and I'm wrong now.

Duly noted.


The term you're looking for is naturopathy. That has its own set of pseudoscience problems that can be just as harmful as homeopathy.

Dont tell the conspiracy people that though.
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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I mean, I wouldn't try and go that route if I have cancer.


But I am all natural unless I really need something, even otc.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 06:43 PM
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a reply to: Gargoyle91

been there done that not all its cracked up to be



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 07:46 PM
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A cure for HIV/AIDS?

Brother, only a matter of time.

They will find it.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
A cure for HIV/AIDS?

Brother, only a matter of time.

They will find it.


They'll find it alright. Will they sell it though, and for how much?

Will they hold on to it or release it?



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 09:02 PM
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Will they hold on to it or release it?


You realize that the researchers involved in these types of research endeavors are just as susceptible to the ravages of disease as the rest of us, right?

Steve Jobs died of cancer and he was a billionaire.

John McCain died of cancer and he was a powerful, long-time serving, in-the-know US Senator.

This kind of conspiratorial thinking does no one any good and is hardly reflective of the efforts put forth by people who really are trying to cure these diseases in any way they can. If this were easy we'd all be immortal already.
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posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 09:14 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

You caught me being wrong earlier, I admitted it.

But I'm not buying into a conspiracy theory man.

When Valeant buys well running pharmaceutical companies and Jack's up the prices a few thousand percent.....

I look at the morality of profiteers different. My moms medicine would be 80,000 a year without insurance.

Look man, I respect your opinion. You can try to debate me on how medicine is a form of philanthropy here, but I'm not buying it.
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