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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
According to your logic, why should Trump be responsible for what his people did? Cohen. Manafort. Flynn. You know all the ones convicted of crimes NOT tied to him but since they were employees he should be investigated.
The reason all of this is coming out against AOC.
1. She went against Pelosi and the establishment
2. Her district is pissed and they are already preparing a challenge
3. She preached poor and is fully embracing the DC culture with nice apartments/etc. Many congresspeople sleep on couches or in offices.
Are you unable to use google?
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
Do you need me spell it out for you......
I do. I am not getting your point that they can not spend money.
dailycaller.com...
Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017
Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed her control over the PAC while it was supporting her primary campaign, an arrangement that could open the Democrat up to massive campaign finance violations. The pair could face prison time if it is found that they intentionally withheld the ties between the campaign and the PAC from the FEC.
www.google.com... o-cortez-campaign-finance-fec-complaint-denies%2F&psig=AOvVaw1EionWUhgapzUGC_LH2v4-&ust=1551980215912920
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
You
I do. I am not getting your point that they can not spend money.
Again
dailycaller.com...
Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017
Where
Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Then you have this angle
Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed her control over the PAC while it was supporting her primary campaign, an arrangement that could open the Democrat up to massive campaign finance violations. The pair could face prison time if it is found that they intentionally withheld the ties between the campaign and the PAC from the FEC.
www.google.com... o-cortez-campaign-finance-fec-complaint-denies%2F&psig=AOvVaw1EionWUhgapzUGC_LH2v4-&ust=1551980215912920
AOC’s chief of staff ran $1M slush fund by diverting campaign cash to his own companies
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Two political action committees founded by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s top aide funneled over $1 million in political donations into two of his own private companies, according to a complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission on Monday.
The cash transfers from the PACs — overseen by Saikat Chakrabarti, the freshman socialist Democrat's chief of staff — run counter to her pledges to increase transparency and reduce the influence of "dark money" in politics.
Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
The arrangement skirted reporting requirements and may have violated the $5,000 limit on contributions from federal PACs to candidates, according to the complaint filed by the National Legal and Policy Center, a government watchdog group.
Campaign finance attorneys described the arrangement as “really weird” and an indication "there’s something amiss." They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went — meaning they could have been pocketed or used by the company to pay for off-the-books campaign operations.
I should have known you wouldn't be able to respond intelligently. If you go back and look at every single time I attempt to have a conversation with you, you devolve into a pre-schooler mentality of name calling and asserting your beliefs as fact. Just because you believe something is real, no matter how much you want it to be real, it isn't unless you can prove it.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
What do you not get about “Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.“
AOC’s chief of staff ran $1M slush fund by diverting campaign cash to his own companies
www.washingtonexaminer.com...
Two political action committees founded by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s top aide funneled over $1 million in political donations into two of his own private companies, according to a complaint filed with the Federal Election Commission on Monday.
The cash transfers from the PACs — overseen by Saikat Chakrabarti, the freshman socialist Democrat's chief of staff — run counter to her pledges to increase transparency and reduce the influence of "dark money" in politics.
Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
The arrangement skirted reporting requirements and may have violated the $5,000 limit on contributions from federal PACs to candidates, according to the complaint filed by the National Legal and Policy Center, a government watchdog group.
Campaign finance attorneys described the arrangement as “really weird” and an indication "there’s something amiss." They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went — meaning they could have been pocketed or used by the company to pay for off-the-books campaign operations.
originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: xuenchen
Being that she is the Marxist Barbie of the New Democratic party, I'm surprised that it even made the news.
Or is it that you can't get into REAL full-scale crime until you've done your political time?
Be interesting to see how this pans out.
S&F, as always...
I read both of your links and neither one state or reference any laws that make it illegal for a candidate to serve on the board of a PAC.
Harber pleaded guilty on Feb. 12, 2015 to one count of coordinated federal election contributions and one count of making false statements to the FBI.
According to plea documents, Harber was the Campaign Manager and General Political Consultant for a candidate for Congress in the November 2012 general election. At the same time, Harber participated in the creation and operation of a PAC, which was legally allowed to raise and spend money in unlimited amounts from otherwise prohibited sources to influence federal elections so long as it did not coordinate expenditures with a federal campaign.
Who is running Justice Democrats? Who are the major players?
The current board of Justice Democrats is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Saikat Chakrabarti.
Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign and Justice Democrats raised a combined $4.6 million during the 2018 midterm election cycle, FEC records show. There’s a maximum five-year prison sentence for anyone who knowingly and willfully receives a collective $25,000 or more in excessive campaign contributions in a single calendar year.
Justice Democrats raked in far more than $25,000 from individual contributors of over $2,700 after Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti took control, according to FEC records.
(d) Penalties; defenses; mitigation of offenses
(1)
(A) Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any provision of this Act which involves the making, receiving, or reporting of any contribution, donation, or expenditure—
(i) aggregating $25,000 or more during a calendar year shall be fined under title 18, or imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or both; or
(ii) aggregating $2,000 or more (but less than $25,000) during a calendar year shall be fined under such title, or imprisoned for not more than 1 year, or both.
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
Are you saying it’s a lie the money is documented going to Chakrabarti's companies? Do you have proof?
Is it a lie once the money was deposited with Chakrabarti’s companies, “They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went”? Do you have proof of a lie?
Do you have proof where the money with Chakrabarti’s companies went?
I wonder why the need for the FEC to investigate?
I am saying they did not say what the money went for and they have to say that in great detail for the transfer to be legal.
sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went
originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk
I am saying they did not say what the money went for and they have to say that in great detail for the transfer to be legal.
From quoted article:
sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.
And
They said there was no way of telling where the political donations went
Is this false? So you have willfully bypassing of laws. The neglecting of reporting. And there is no accountability of where money went. Which is all documented.
Is this false. So laws were broken, and there is money missing with no accountability.
originally posted by: BlackJackal
You have claimed that there is public documentation that shows AOC coordinated her PAC with her campaign. Where are those documents that prove she got caught with her hand in the cookie jar?