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AOC’s chief of staff ran $1M slush fund by diverting campaign cash to his own companies

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posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal




As you are undoubtedly aware FEC complaints are a common occurrence and rarely lead to criminal charges.

So then we are done with the "stormy" bs?




posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: shooterbrody

They serve hamberders. And "they" would be you guys with your Alexsatana Occasionally Cortez obsession.


oh I bet cheeto jesus himself would show up in jail to play lunchlady and serve her a "hamberder".



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 08:59 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

All i am saying is that the claim i heard is that this money in question was a payment for services rendered and the receiver or sender failed to properly list the services rendered in a detailed manner that the law requires for those types of payments.

Since the reasons listed for the payment are in question it gives news outlets a chance to claim the payment was illegal and start many conspiracies but the likely remedy is for the campaign manager is to list his duties for the money received and move on with his day.

As with most cases in the law intent to commit a crime has to be present and so far nothing of the sort is out in public from what i see.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 09:02 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: BlackJackal




As you are undoubtedly aware FEC complaints are a common occurrence and rarely lead to criminal charges.

So then we are done with the "stormy" bs?


The stormy saga took a crazy turn. I learned recently that the since the payment to keep her under covers was made by personally money that cohen proved they are now trying to say she should have been paid with campaign money.

That is crazy cause everyone was going crazy and claiming he paid her out of the campaign money and that was against the fec rules.

They were gonna bitch either way.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 09:47 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal
Sorry, I didn't
mean to get after you about it. I just mentioned you because AOC being on the PAC addresses the issue of whether she knew what was going on.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 09:55 AM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk

True or false. AOC handled money that was given, and that money did not go where it was slated. And for some of that money, there is no record of its final destination.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk

True or false. AOC handled money that was given, and that money did not go where it was slated. And for some of that money, there is no record of its final destination.


False

She hired someone to handle her campaign and the money was payment for services rendered and there is a record of it's destination but the reasons listed for the payment were lacking in detail and all the manager has to do is fill out the disclosure better.

This is likely just people looking at everything she and her campaign has done cause she is a lil hell raiser and is pushing for potus taxes.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: BlackJackal


Another user of this site has made the assertion public documents exist which show the coordination of AOC’s PAC and her campaign. So far, these documents have not been produced. If these documents are produced


Why would the documents need to be produced if they are already public?



Because, so far, the only evidence that the documents exist at all is an assertation on this forum by user "jadedANDcynical". I am asking that he or she link to the documents that he or she claims proves a crime has been committed by AOC.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk



She hired someone to handle her campaign and the money was payment for services rendered and there is a record of it's destination but the reasons listed for the payment were lacking in detail and all the manager has to do is fill out the disclosure better.


I think you don’t see what is going on.

Is it true she was managing a PAC that has money mismanaged and/or money unaccounted for?



dailycaller.com...

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk

According to your logic, why should Trump be responsible for what his people did? Cohen. Manafort. Flynn. You know all the ones convicted of crimes NOT tied to him but since they were employees he should be investigated.

The reason all of this is coming out against AOC.

1. She went against Pelosi and the establishment
2. Her district is pissed and they are already preparing a challenge
3. She preached poor and is fully embracing the DC culture with nice apartments/etc. Many congresspeople sleep on couches or in offices.


edit on Maram31amf0000002019-03-06T10:38:36-06:001036 by matafuchs because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

And article after actual posted gives evidence the public records do not march the money going in vs money going out. So, people have been able to research the finances of the Justice Democrats PAC. I am guess there is a law where the finances of the PAC has to be made publicly available.

I would say it is a true statement the finances of the Justice Democrats PAC are publicly available by law.
edit on 6-3-2019 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Then check this out
hwww.opensecrets.org/
www.opensecrets.org...
Justice Democrats



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: BlackJackal




As you are undoubtedly aware FEC complaints are a common occurrence and rarely lead to criminal charges.

So then we are done with the "stormy" bs?


Hmmmm, logic isn't your strong suit is it? Let's put this response into context.

Instead of me talking about FEC complaints lets say I said this true statement instead:

Most murders go unsolved

Would your response have been something like this?

So then we are done with this "Dylan Roof" bs?

The first statement in no way proves or give credence to the second statement. Each case is an independent incident that should be evaluated on it's own merits. I only brought up the fact that most FEC complaints go no where because most FEC complaints are nothing more than partisan bickering.

In the case of Stormey Daniels there is far more evidence than just a complaint from a liberal watch dog group. There are physical documents and testimony indicating that a crime took place. Also, at least one person has already been convicted of a felony directly related to the Stormey Daniels "bs". In this alleged case against AOC, so far, all we have is an allegation. Is it possible that AOC committed a crime? Undoubtedly, but so far there isn't any compelling evidence to prove that. If that evidence is produced I will be amongst the first to call for her to be removed from Congress and be put in prison.

Let me ask you a question. Is it possible that Trump is guilty of the campaign finance felony that Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to. The felony in which Donald Trump is referenced as Individual One. Is it possible that he is guilty of that crime? If so, would you call for him to be removed from office and put in jail?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk



She hired someone to handle her campaign and the money was payment for services rendered and there is a record of it's destination but the reasons listed for the payment were lacking in detail and all the manager has to do is fill out the disclosure better.


I think you don’t see what is going on.

Is it true she was managing a PAC that has money mismanaged and/or money unaccounted for?



dailycaller.com...

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.


You are correct that i may not have the whole picture.

Are you saying it is illegal to have a pac involved in your campaign or that they obtained it through some illegal means?

From what i have heard the money is not missing and is legal but was not labeled in great enough detail as to services it was paid for.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: UncleTomahawk

According to your logic, why should Trump be responsible for what his people did? Cohen. Manafort. Flynn. You know all the ones convicted of crimes NOT tied to him but since they were employees he should be investigated.

The reason all of this is coming out against AOC.

1. She went against Pelosi and the establishment
2. Her district is pissed and they are already preparing a challenge
3. She preached poor and is fully embracing the DC culture with nice apartments/etc. Many congresspeople sleep on couches or in offices.



Potus is not really being held accountable for actions by his campaign unless they find he directed them to knowingly break the law. I agree similar case here.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: UncleTomahawk

The question was:
Is it true she was managing a PAC that has money mismanaged and/or money unaccounted for?



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: BlackJackal

And article after actual posted gives evidence the public records do not march the money going in vs money going out. So, people have been able to research the finances of the Justice Democrats PAC. I am guess there is a law where the finances of the PAC has to be made publicly available.

I would say it is a true statement the finances of the Justice Democrats PAC are publicly available by law.


I am not denying that the public records detailing "Justice Democrats" finances show discrepancies. I am not denying that those discrepancies need to be thoroughly investigated because they most definitely should be. However, I am not jumping straight to AOC is guilty and needs to be thrown in jail.

As of now, all we know for sure is that the numbers do not add up. That could be anything from nothing to poor accounting to fraud. Then even if it is fraud we can't immediately assume that AOC herself was a perpetrator of the fraud. It could be that her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, committed the crime without her knowledge.

But I will say again, if she is guilty, she should lose her seat and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: UncleTomahawk

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: UncleTomahawk



She hired someone to handle her campaign and the money was payment for services rendered and there is a record of it's destination but the reasons listed for the payment were lacking in detail and all the manager has to do is fill out the disclosure better.


I think you don’t see what is going on.

Is it true she was managing a PAC that has money mismanaged and/or money unaccounted for?



dailycaller.com...

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and a top aide appear to control an outside PAC credited with being the central force behind her June 2018 primary victory.

Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017, according to archived copies of the group’s website, and the two appear to retain their control of the group, according to corporate filings obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.


You are correct that i may not have the whole picture.

Are you saying it is illegal to have a pac involved in your campaign or that they obtained it through some illegal means?

From what i have heard the money is not missing and is legal but was not labeled in great enough detail as to services it was paid for.


Are you unable to use google?



www.washingtonexaminer.com...

The cash transfers from the PACs — overseen by Saikat Chakrabarti, the freshman socialist Democrat's chief of staff — run counter to her pledges to increase transparency and reduce the influence of "dark money" in politics.

Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.


The definition of embezzle:


embezzle
to appropriate (something, such as property entrusted to one's care) fraudulently to one's own use


Again, seems pretty text book.


“Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her chief of staff Saikat Chakrabarti obtained majority control of Justice Democrats PAC in December 2017” where “Chakrabarti's companies appear to have been set up for the sole purpose of obscuring how the political donations were used.”
edit on 6-3-2019 by neutronflux because: Added and fixed



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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Hmmmm, logic isn't your strong suit is it? Let's put this response into context. Instead of me talking about FEC complaints lets say I said this true statement instead: Most murders go unsolved Would your response have been something like this? So then we are done with this "Dylan Roof" bs? The first statement in no way proves or give credence to the second statement. Each case is an independent incident that should be evaluated on it's own merits. I only brought up the fact that most FEC complaints go no where because most FEC complaints are nothing more than partisan bickering.

all irrelevant to the thread
funny how far outside you had to go to make that crap up




In the case of Stormey Daniels there is far more evidence than just a complaint from a liberal watch dog group. There are physical documents and testimony indicating that a crime took place. Also, at least one person has already been convicted of a felony directly related to the Stormey Daniels "bs".

Cohen copped a plea to get a reduced sentence.
Trump paid Cohen, like he did in the past, clearly not a campaign finance violation.
Interesting how you distance yourself from your original statement:



and rarely lead to criminal charges.

So this one was so grievous it led to criminal charges?
Bah, more bs from the spreader.
An attempted political hit that failed. Funny how you refuse to admit that.


AOC good
Orange man bad



posted on Mar, 6 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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Do you need me spell it out for you......




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