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Italian Leftist Democrats are trying to Seek their comeback.

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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 09:42 AM
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The Italian Leftist Democrats are trying to seek their comeback by using race as it was seen in milano which was organized by members of PD and leftist organizers the so called anti racism march.

Italy's centre-left PD party votes to elect new leader a year after election rout




In a heartening sign for Italy’s left, tens of thousands took to the streets of the financial capital Milan on Saturday to denounce racism and the anti-migrant policies of the League — the largest such protest since the government took office.





Previously led by former prime minister Matteo Renzi, the PD was thrown into turmoil by the 2018 ballot box beating as the electorate punished the party for not doing enough to tackle growing poverty, high unemployment and mass immigration.


Supporters of the PD party took to the streets of financial capital Milan on Saturday to denounce racism and the anti-migrant policies of the League yet ignore the lessons on why the PD and Renzi lost.

The PD and Renzi lost for not doing noting to tackle growing poverty, high unemployment and mass immigration. Do the Italian liberals need another lesson?

Of course its very impressive how liberals can organize leftist protest causes that fit their agendas. But that wont be enough to help their agenda nor give them the hope of comeback.
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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 09:47 AM
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Weren't their leftist government officials responsible for the near collapse of their financial system not long ago? A balance of conservative and liberal is necessary, too much change and risk is not good, slow but sure is the best way. The USA is doomed, the left is getting too irrational.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Yes the Italian liberal officials were nearly close for the collapse of the financial system not long ago i think, this is the thing right? liberal supporters clearly have no sense of logic or brain to think rationally.

With these protests in Milan it clearly had shown that the Liberals see racism everywhere yet ignore the real issues, they use racism and race as their fiddle to fit their agenda just like how the Liberals are doing so in America.

liberal supporters have no idea how close the Italian financial system came to a complete collapse.

Majority of those liberal supporters that marched in Milan are either party members or long time supporters of the party.
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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
liberal supporters have no idea how close the Italian financial system came to a complete collapse.


Because they are under the EU umbrella...



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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Absolutely freakin ridiculous,
Citizens being 1 issue voters and that issue is “how many economic migrants will we let in and how much free stuff will we give them”

All these lefty’s need to be sent to re-education camps



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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naaah we didnt fall for it here in the GCC countries, especially my country the UAE while every one in the west wanted us to accommodate those whom are fleeing their countries due to war, poverty, and what so ever, we were wise enough to stop it like President Trump did and we prevailed and prevented those whom are with radical views to enter and disrupt our country, so to all of you Americans you should thank Trump.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




All these lefty’s need to be sent to re-education camps

What libearls need is a good reality check up.

1.Why does Italy need 500k African migrants and mostly men? without documentation? what are they really fleeing if their home countries dont have massive wars or poverty? flee from poverty to Europe?

2. Why all of a sudden are the rights of illegally African migrants shipped by criminal human traffickers more important then the native citizen?

If they cant answer all these questions then we have mega problem.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Italy and Europe dealt with the extreme right wing nearly 100 years ago. Ditto with the extreme left.

Current popular parties are centrist, something that Americans seem to have a poor concept of.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Weren't their leftist government officials responsible for the near collapse of their financial system not long ago? A balance of conservative and liberal is necessary, too much change and risk is not good, slow but sure is the best way. The USA is doomed, the left is getting too irrational.


This has nothing to do with US politics.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff




All these lefty’s need to be sent to re-education camps

What libearls need is a good reality check up.

1.Why does Italy need 500k African migrants and mostly men? without documentation? what are they really fleeing if their home countries dont have massive wars or poverty? flee from poverty to Europe?


Surely it is the Capitalist way to seek to improve your financial situation. These people, trying to get a better life for themselves, fleeing poverty, are the exemplars of Capitalist goals.

It is ironic that this is being assisted by the left-wing and resisted by the right-wing. Perhaps it shows that the attitudes expressed are not based upon political ideology but are actually racist?




2. Why all of a sudden are the rights of illegally African migrants shipped by criminal human traffickers more important then the native citizen?


Surely the rights of all humans are equal and the support of the rights of one group does not, and should not, denigrate the rights of another. The idea that advantage given to one should equate to disadvantage to another, is ignorant of the intellect and motivations of those who seek fairness.


If they cant answer all these questions then we have mega problem.


Perhaps we, standing so distant as we do, are the generator of the problem?

They aren't going to take our toys.

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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: AtlasHawk

Italy and Europe dealt with the extreme right wing nearly 100 years ago. Ditto with the extreme left.

Current popular parties are centrist, something that Americans seem to have a poor concept of.


The extreme left is no better then the party of mussolini and his party that had the control of Italy. What the extreme left of Europe are preaching is suicidal. At very best.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 06:37 PM
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Surely the rights of all humans are equal and the support of the rights of one group does not, and should not, denigrate the rights of another.

You mean like that right that forces an Italian family out of their own home to make way for the migrants?



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: chr0naut




Surely the rights of all humans are equal and the support of the rights of one group does not, and should not, denigrate the rights of another.

You mean like that right that forces an Italian family out of their own home to make way for the migrants?


When did that ever happen?



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: AtlasHawk

Italy and Europe dealt with the extreme right wing nearly 100 years ago. Ditto with the extreme left.

Current popular parties are centrist, something that Americans seem to have a poor concept of.


The extreme left is no better then the party of mussolini and his party that had the control of Italy. What the extreme left of Europe are preaching is suicidal. At very best.


While I agree that there is little different between the opposite extremes, this article was about a centrist party.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rickymouse
Weren't their leftist government officials responsible for the near collapse of their financial system not long ago? A balance of conservative and liberal is necessary, too much change and risk is not good, slow but sure is the best way. The USA is doomed, the left is getting too irrational.


This has nothing to do with US politics.

And this thread is ?
Could have fooled me
Must've been the title



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 08:30 PM
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The Italian folks are growing tired of their situation as well as the rest of the EU's common population
Sure , the political parties still arrange "protests" , yet they are the minority (or soon will be)
France , Greece , Italy , Sweden , Denmark , Belgium , Germany ,the list goes on .
I feel the EU has only a limited time to exist ,on their current track , as the populist movement grows in the major countries.
There is a huge difference between "racism" and looking out for one's own well-being.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: AtlasHawk

Blaming the communists:




posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 01:10 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: chr0naut




Surely the rights of all humans are equal and the support of the rights of one group does not, and should not, denigrate the rights of another.

You mean like that right that forces an Italian family out of their own home to make way for the migrants?


When did that ever happen?

It did in Italy.



posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: AtlasHawk

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: chr0naut




Surely the rights of all humans are equal and the support of the rights of one group does not, and should not, denigrate the rights of another.

You mean like that right that forces an Italian family out of their own home to make way for the migrants?


When did that ever happen?

It did in Italy.


When?

Specifically, point me to a link or source for your assertion.

Because I don't believe it has ever happened.



posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rickymouse
Weren't their leftist government officials responsible for the near collapse of their financial system not long ago? A balance of conservative and liberal is necessary, too much change and risk is not good, slow but sure is the best way. The USA is doomed, the left is getting too irrational.


This has nothing to do with US politics.

And this thread is ?
Could have fooled me
Must've been the title



Partito Democratico is a different group, in a different country, than the US Democratic Party. I doubt that their platform is even marginally similar.

Rickymouse, to whom I was responding, made specific reference to the USA in their post. My suspicion was that they had conflated the two parties because they both use the word "Democratic" in their title.

The error of this comes to light starkly when you realize that the Nazi Party also called themselves the "Democratic Socialist Party". Clearly, the Nazi's were neither democratic, nor socialist but were the extreme right-wing opposite.




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