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I Don't Think Many Swedes Believe Muslims Are Peaceful And Tolerant People

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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 01:36 AM
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Some say it's not fair to blame an entire culture or religion for the actions of a few bad people. However, IMO, the level of distrust one has for a group of people, is based on the frequency of violent acts that members of that group commit. In Sweden, there's a Muslim neighborhood that's so out of control, that UPS has now stopped deliveries there, because drivers have been attacked. Matter of fact, local firefighters won't enter that area without a police escort. Many believe this is proof that Muslims are troublemakers and do not assimilate with other cultures


Multiple Swedish news outlets, including the newspapers Fria Tider and Sydsvenskan, have confirmed that UPS has stopped all deliveries to Rosengård, a Malmo neighborhood comprised almost entirely of Muslim residents, because of a heightened risk of their drivers being robbed or worse.
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Our drivers have been attacked and therefore we have decided not to hand out packages at [the district],” a UPS spokesperson confirmed to Sydsvenskan.



With the influx of mainly Muslim immigrants has come an abundance of problems.



Between 2008 and 2011, for instance, the neighborhood’s Muslims reportedly rioted against local police via vandalism and arson. To make matters worse, local firefighters often refused to put out the fires unless they were provided with a police escort.



Such is the life in countries that have allowed unfettered migration. Too often, migrants and refugees — particularly those of the Muslim persuasion — refuse to assimilate with mainstream culture, instead choosing to segregate themselves and create these “no-go zones.”

www.bizpacreview.com...

I'm sure there are decent, peaceful Muslim families who live in neighborhoods all over the United States. However, what happens when an entire neighborhood is comprised of Muslims? There is reason to believe that such areas become dangerous, ‘areas of social exclusion,’ where crime and violence is rampant.


The magazine further cited a devastating quote from The Times as proof that that crime is a feature — not a bug — of Muslim-dominant communities such as Rosengård: “The crime surge is mainly confined to so-called ‘areas of social exclusion,’ a code for neighbourhoods such as Rosengard that are predominantly populated by immigrants.” The same thing has been happening in pockets of Stockholm.



Sweden — which once boasted extremely low instances of rape — has become the “rape capital of the West” specifically because of its leaders policy of allowing mass numbers of migrants and refugees from Muslim nations in the Middle East and North Africa to resettle in their communities.

www.bizpacreview.com...


Riots, assault and arson have become daily occurrences in Rinkeby and other Muslim neighborhoods in Sweden but until now, the government and the media have censored reporting these facts.

www.bizpacreview.com...

Can this problem happen in the United States? In some places, it already has.




FBI data shows Ilhan Omar’s district is terrorist recruitment capital of the US



“More men and boys from a Somali American community in Minneapolis have joined – or attempted to join – a foreign terrorist organization over the last 12 years than any other jurisdiction in the country,” Fox News reported Saturday, citing data from the FBI.

www.bizpacreview.com...





So, are Muslims peaceful? Are they tolerant? Do they assimilate well into other cultures?

"Facts and data, rather than opinion, are the two cornerstones of problem solving, and yet they are consistently withheld from the people by American media. We must have facts and data in order to recognize where there is a problem!" ....Roseanne Barr




posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 01:37 AM
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Gish galloping is awesome.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 01:37 AM
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How many Swedes have you personally spoken to about this subject?


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:24 AM
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There were peaceful nazi families too. Not all nazis were bad, not all their supporters were bad.

But the nazi IDEOLOGY is absolutely disgusting. Hateful and intolerant.

That’s why it’s not tolerated by society as a whole.

Speaking of an ideology that is hateful and intolerant. Disgusting. Racist, supremacist. Mysoginistic, anti Semitic, homophobic and bigoted right to the core. This thread is about islam.

And being quick to defend the most loved and respected pedophilic rape-culture the world has ever known is not a good look at all. Kinda makes one look like a hateful, intolerant, homophobic racist.

These ‘views’ on Islam do not come from ‘the right’ or from propaganda.
Homophobia, pedophilia, mysogony, anti Semitism, supremacy, racism, hate and extreme intolerance come directly from Islam itself. From the teachings of its scholars and religious leaders, from its core ideology, from its pedophile warmongering murderous raping founder.

It’s not ‘fear’ it’s not ‘being dramatic’ or whatever the defenders of the rape culture want to say to deflect from facts about Islam. It’s just hypocrisy.

How can anyone with two iq points to rub together stand there and decry nazism on the one hand and defend Islam on the other? It just doesn’t make sense.

And ‘race’ is meaningless. ‘Color of skin’ means nothing.
White people are muslims. Black people are Muslims. Asian people too and SOME, that’s right, SOME Arabic and Persian people are Muslims.
Americans are islamic. Europeans are islamic and SOME Middle Eastern people are islamic.

In fact, MOST muslims on earth are NOT Arabic or Persian or Middle Eastern. Most Muslims are Indonesian.

It’s the IDEOLOGY that is the hateful thing. Not the people. Not the followers. Not the brainwashed masses. It’s the BELIEF SYSTEM that is disgusting and wrong.

Find something ‘right’ about it.

Now I know it’s not a fair comparison. I mean, did you ever hear of a Nazi SS Officer stoning his own daughter to death for kissing a Jew?
One of those hateful ideologies is FAAAAAAR worse than the other. And yet, people defend it.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:24 AM
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many Europeans don't. I communicate on Twitter with people in networking and IT all the time on social media, people in my groups/ network who are in the same field/ getting same education and they are all pretty much in agreement



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:27 AM
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Christianity is disgusting too but I see the hate and intolerance shown toward outed Christian rapist-priests and it makes me wonder what the outrage levels would be against Muslim rapist-imams.

Because you all damn well know that in Islam, the ‘alter-boy’ rapes will be a millionfold that of what we see in the catholic cult.


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:31 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
Gish galloping is awesome.


Your in a contrary mood today

I think the problems Europe are facing due to Muslim violence are well documented
Not delivering into some areas is news to me, pretty scary for people in those countries

Speaking to a German friend and she said visiting a historical church was akin to boarding an aeroplane due to anti christian threats from muslims

Europe is in trouble, real trouble
But let’s open the boarders because we know everybody is altruistic
No lessons learned



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:33 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

I think mass immigration will produce problems no matter who the immigrants are. In the US it has been, variously, the Chinese, the Irish, the Polish...

I think the problems will only increase due to political and climactic influences and increasing an "us and them" mentality will do nothing to assuage it.

I think a reactionary response does more harm than the immigrants themselves.
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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 02:58 AM
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I think it’s extremely offensive that humans allow such a hateful ideology to exist. Especially those who claim to be progressive.
Islam is 100% diametrically opposed to EVERYTHING the left ‘claims’ to stand for.

A push to drive the ideology out of every country and free the people from such an ideological prison would be a noble goal.

The ideology of the Thugee was driven out because of its tenets. It was outlawed no matter who it offended, no matter how many Thugee were ‘good people’, the practice was abolished!

I doubt there were progressives defending it.

What’s the difference? Even the Thugee ideology was more peaceful and tolerant.

By a long shot.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:01 AM
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a reply to: Breakthestreak

Your comparison is absurd.


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:02 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Raggedyman

I think mass immigration will produce problems no matter who the immigrants are. In the US it has been, variously, the Chinese, the Irish, the Polish...

I think the problems will only increase due to political and climactic influences and increasing an "us and them" mentality will do nothing to assuage it.

I think a reactionary response does more harm than the immigrants themselves.


Really
Reactionary responses, they will become physical
Polish, Chinese and Irish caused problems, how and to what degree?
Polish and Irish mostly catholic and I didn’t see the issues we currently face
Chinese, well I thought they were oppressed and marginalised, at least in the US.
We are discussing Europe?

I don’t think it’s a fair comparison, where churches put on notice, street riots, suburbs closed off because of the Irish, Polish and Chinese immigrants?
Don’t even think that happened in the US

But when you throw in the Muslim faith we have seen so many issues in today’s western societies it can’t be ignored
Like oil and water, many muslims don’t mix

It’s not just political, their own women are not well treated and that is based on their laws, why should the European women be treated as equals by Muslims?

Denying the us and them mentality has been a failure in my opinion
I don’t have an answer but I can see and won’t pretend there is no problem



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:05 AM
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a reply to: Raggedyman




Reactionary responses, they will become physical

I think you need to look up what the term means.


Like oil and water, many muslims don’t mix
Nor did the first and even second generations of other cultures.


I don’t have an answer but I can see and won’t pretend there is no problem
Did you even read what I wrote? Where did I deny a problem?
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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Your comparison is absurd.


Yeah I know

It’s hard to find anything remotely close to being as hateful and intolerant and as flat out anti-human as Islam.

Thugee only as an example because it was outlawed regardless of protest.
And nazism because it’s the second most hateful, intolerant ideology that we know of


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:12 AM
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I mean, even kkk members didn’t brutally, brutally, murder their own mothers and daughters because they didn’t agree with the kk ideology.
And if they did, it wasn’t a kkk-wide openly-accepted even mandated practice.

How do you find any comparison with islam that isn’t absurd?

It’s depravity has no equal anywhere in all of history. And it’s fricken 2019.
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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:30 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Well it’s not clear you see a problem
What is clear is that you are keen to ignore the problem, in fact I would say you are pretty keen to compound the problem by denying it

You say you don’t deny it, I say you words are framed to make it a non issue and when contested pretend you are not saying what you are inferring

Gish galloping? I see a landslide of issues, not Gish galloping, real concern and real fear and that real fear will be met with a real political reactionary response based on physical violence

Muslims don’t change , their religion doesn’t change, their societies may but their religion has never mellowed, ever. Look at ISIS, look at Hamas, they get nastier.
You deny even history

Yes, a reactionary response of people wanting things to settle as they were previously and if physical violence is required they will use physical violence.

www.aljazeera.com...

Don’t be a pedant, I would like to say it is beneath you
I note you pull that “know it all” crap when your argument is flailing
When I say “reactionary” I am talking an individual, sorry my English is not perfect, think it was pretty clear at any rate, well for most

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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:46 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
Gish galloping is awesome.


What have I done now?




posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:49 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Problem is, until there is a reasonable answer to this complex question, guess what exactly is happening.

And you can't put that toothpaste back into the tube, either.


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 03:55 AM
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This is the sort of thing that happens when you create separate "communities" for groups, give them signs in their own language, allow their own schools, shops, Mosques, medical facilities, radio stations, tv programs etc. Over the last decade or two WE have created colonies inside our own country by never enforcing the requirement of integration and by not understanding that the Islamic faith, in general, is not only incompatible with our own, but is also a total way of living.

These communities become ghettos insular and isolated by their own hand and by their own desire to remain separate. Towns have been created that are as close to Muslim only as they can be. There are reports that some women imported as brides mainly from rural areas, don't even know the UK isn't an Islamic country! They never venture out of their boundaries, they don't need to learn English, they are subject to secret Sharia courts which operate in many cities across the UK, and because of their strict faith, they often don't even acknowledge the Police and the law of the land. In places such as Bradford, the Muslims don't even bother trying to hide their contempt for non Muslims & Authority. They themselves admit in documentaries & videos how proud they are that Bradford is almost entirely Muslim and how they won't stop until Sharia law is everywhere. We made a big mistake and now we're paying for it. You can't take it back.

We have many "communities" here in the UK, Chinese Polish Ukranian etc but none as vocal and demanding as the Muslim communities and it is the persistent constant demands from the Muslim sector for us to bend to their rules & will, that is creating disharmony across Europe. There are NO other communities that have been given as much leeway and as some see it special treatment, as the Muslim communities and no other community that is represented in just about every walk of life from the Police to the Armed Forces with religious & cultural "advisors" to ensure that THEIR people are treated in a particular manner. This kind of special treatment creates anger and whilst not racism, certainly creates religionism!

The experiment in liberalism started in the late 80's has backfired, means we've created an untenable situation that can only get worse.


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posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Raggedyman

I think mass immigration will produce problems no matter who the immigrants are. In the US it has been, variously, the Chinese, the Irish, the Polish...

I think the problems will only increase due to political and climactic influences and increasing an "us and them" mentality will do nothing to assuage it.

I think a reactionary response does more harm than the immigrants themselves.


I don't usually like to put too fine a point on things, but, that is a downright stupid thing to say.

Trying to minimize the danger of mass muslim immigration by saying all mass immigration causes problems is pure bs. The differences between the Chinese, Irish, and Polish and muslims are too great to even try to list here. However, the only difference that really matters is the religious one.

Some try to point out the muslim families they know in the US as examples of how not all muslims are dangerous. Wrong again. Those "nice" muslims are only nice because they are outnumbered. When their numbers grow, as we are seeing in every area they migrate to, their tendency toward violence increases. The so-called moderate muslims, when surrounded by their own, become fanatic. If they don't the devout in their own religion will turn on them for not being a true muslim, and they know it. There is no such thing as a moderate muslim. There are only muslims waiting for greater numbers to assert themselves.

These people do not assimilate. It is against their nature and their religion to do so. It is convert or destroy. It has been that way for thousands of years. And it will not change because we welcome them with open arms and wallets. They will just use our kindness and our resources against us. Like the Boston marathon, and San Bernardino, to name just a few. Those muslims were here as refugees. In reality they were terrorists who took advantage of liberal stupidity.

But hey, you don't have to drive to the coasts to see it. Its coming to a neighborhood near you. Just check with the local village and see how many permits for mosques have been requested this year compared to prior years. Or keep your blinders on and act like a smart ass because you haven't been killed "yet". Of course that means you must be right and all the people who do get killed, well thats just statistical anomaly, right?

Not.



posted on Mar, 3 2019 @ 04:23 AM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

I take it then muslims have affected you personally, care to elaborate a little so we can understand exactly how muslims have impacted your life?




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