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originally posted by: Archivalist
Maybe they know that if they meet us, it would rob us of our creative and imaginative freedom, regarding life in the Universe.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
Our first big mistake is to assume they think anything like us in any way. We keep infusing human ideals on a lifeform that would have evolved extreme different, more different than any other kind of life on our planet compared to us. Second mistake is to think "they are all over the place". Even though life most likely happens anytime conditions are correct if we look at earth, a planet that has had trillions of life forms over the last 4 billion years, and add in that the universe we know today is about 9 billion years old with the first 5 billion being mainly gas, how many species has gone to our moon in all of earth history?
originally posted by: SRPrime
This is a logical fallacy. It likens back to the old Chisten Fundamentalist argument, that the odds of the big bang happening are so close to zero, it is indeed zero.
The first real mistake, is thinking aliens would think drastically different than humans. I mean, humans already have quite a wide gamut; we go from Einstein to Ted Bundy, stay with me though. The number 1 thing that separates us from other beings on this planet, is our Problem solving skills. Yes, circumstances change, but the foundation does not. We know it's theoretically possible for a life form to be Methane based; however, even if it is; it's not terribly different than something that is carbon based. It's a set of circumstances, with it's own context and parameters. The actual process of problem solving is a constant. We actually find the more we study, that all life can problem solve quite well, and even Bees and Dolphins can do advanced maths. The only difference between us and a dolphin is our physical body... I.E. A circumstance.
Aliens, should they exist, will appear to be very similar to us. Unless you think humans are going to be drastically different 300 years from today, or that we were 300 years in the past. The only thing that changes is circumstances.
The same can be said on an individual level when looking at one person to the next. The difference of Ted Bundy to Einstein is all circumstance.
Same reason anyone is successful. Take someone who isn't, swap shoes, and they will be and you won't. It's really that simple. A perfect case and point is our news item about Jenner, who is the first "Self Made" billionaire. *Yawn.* It's like saying Trump is a self made millionaire. If my dad had the money Trump's dad did, I could do it too. To open a store, you need enough to buy or lease the building; purchase your first stocking items, register a phone number and pay for advertisement, get insurance, and cover the cost to pay your employee[s] until money comes in. In other words, in order to do ANYTHING on your "Own" you cannot do anything on your own. You require Loans and banks and arrangements, which will be determined by who you know, how well you know them, and what their bank accounts look like.
For instance, I wanted to purchase a property valued at 980k, for 1.3 million; my credit was good enough to qualify for the loan, but I needed 20% of the loan down; you also need an influx of cash flow that can cover the loan outside of what you normally do for work. However, the property I was trying to buy generated 117,600 a year, so it literally would have only taken me 10 years to pay down that 30 year loan. If the bank gave me that money, it was as sure fire as sure fire ever gets; so much so, that the bank told me had I came in for it before 2008, they would have given it to me. The federal government added some regulations to loan agreements that are mandatory nation wide; and one of those is the 20% down and the cash flow; despite the fact that it was a commercial building and I'm already managing it for 5 years and have never had a single vacancy or eviction. Giving me the money to "purchase" it, would have instantly given me the cash flow.
If I was Donald Trump, I'd have gotten it.
Once again trillions of life forms on earth in the last 4 billion years and only one made it to the moon...