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UCPD makes felony arrest in assault caught on video on UC Berkeley campus

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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Oh, you're talking about public restriction of free speech!

But is it really public if it's government funded? He's not talking about making it illegal, just withholding Federal funds. Sounds appropriate to me: that way they can discriminate all they want, since they are not publicly funded.

Wouldn't you agree?

TheRedneck




posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

He's talking about withholding research funding which has nothing to do with who speaks on campus or what they speak about.

You know, medical research and stuff.

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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheRedneck

He's talking about withholding research funding which has nothing to do with who speaks on campus or what they speak about.

You know, medical research and stuff.


Which, are federal funds. Therefore, are indeed under the governance of the constitution. Which prevents federal suppression of free speech.

So, if you want federal $$$, you must also adhere to the constitution and not suppress free speech.

Simple idea really. Unless you disagree with the premise.



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 07:54 PM
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So, if you want federal $$$, you must also adhere to the constitution and not suppress free speech.
Read it again.
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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:03 PM
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He's talking about withholding research funding which has nothing to do with who speaks on campus or what they speak about.

The schools receive 50% of all funding for research in their general fund. Well, UAH does... others may have different percentages.


You know, medical research and stuff.

Is that why they're beating up conservatives there? So they can do medical research on how well they heal?

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Lumenari

I'm not upset at anything.

Just flabbergasted that we have one side that wants to inflict violence because of political persuasion and the other is waaay too quick to go full retard and call them nazis.

Oh and by the way, that above example can be switched as needed.

It's not happening right in front of you. You've got the president you wanted and you're still scared of the bogeyman... it's sad and hilarious at the same time.




Maybe best to keep your head buried in the sand in Australia mate. If you've been paying even the slightest bit of attention in the last three years, you would know the left has been calling the right nazis, racist, homophobes, xenophobes and any other negative insult they can come up with. You know this, everyone knows this. I can only assume your just trolling the board with that statement, as you always do or just incredibly ignorant.



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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Is that why they're beating up conservatives there?

Irrelevant.
Trump's "free speech" argument is nonsense.



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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Free expression, the protection of free expression is never irrelevant or nonsense.

Just my opinion, you know. . . free expression. . .



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:12 PM
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It was just a question. Can't I ask a question?

I disagree about the unconstitutionality. I think it is unconstitutional for the government to fund any organization that does not adhere to the same constitutional principles as apply to the government. Otherwise, there is no constitutionality; the government can simply contract out any unconstitutional activities they want.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

In the context of the Constitution "free speech" means something. Read it sometime.
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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Can you cite which article specifies that to which you object?
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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I never said it was printed in the Constitution.

I only said that allowing any government to violate their constitution by paying others to do unconstitutional things instead, is not a good idea.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:26 PM
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I only said that allowing any government to violate their constitution by paying others to do unconstitutional things instead, is not a good idea.


Actually, this is what you said:

I think it is unconstitutional


What does the Constitution have to say about what non-governmental bodies can do?
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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:33 PM
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I should have used better wording then.


How can a non-governmental body violate the Constitution, I wonder.

How can an organization funded by the government be non-governmental, I wonder.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:34 PM
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How can an organization funded by the government be non-governmental, I wonder.
Use your imagination.


Does a University make laws?

Surely you know how the 1st Amendment goes.
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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:37 PM
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Does a University make laws?

Yes, on their campus. They also have campus police who can levy fines and make arrests under authorization from the city they are in.

TheRedneck



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

On your best day you won't win with that argument...and you know it!

Back off? Not for a moment!

Your argument was laid to rest...game, set, and match!

Deal with it!

You are defending a "NAZI", in "NAZI" actions...and your argument fails...just like a "NAZI"!



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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Yes, on their campus.

Huh.
Didn't we have a discussion about who makes laws a while back? Talking about Federal laws, of course. Are campus laws unconstitutional?



posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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I’m defending a nazi now?

By saying it’s good he’s been charged?

Wow.

Deep man, deep.


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posted on Mar, 2 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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Campus is not Federal.

TheRedneck




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