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Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: coursecatalog

Coursecatolog.....so you are claiming that TFT/cometa is closely associated with TDL.....

Please confirm this point.




posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: coursecatalog

Its garbage disinformation distraction...



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: InspectaBecky

Hi Inspecta Becky,
I was not aware of this.....
I had my suspicions.... Do you know what websites he visited...?



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: celltypespecific




“My gosh!” “They are all going against the wind; the wind is 120 knots from the west. Look at that thing, dude!”
“That’s not . . . I don’t understand. Look at that thing!”
“It’s rotating.”




“That is a [expletive deleted] drone, bro.”
“There is a whole fleet of them, look on the ASA!”



A whole fleet of drones??


Now imagine top secret platform testing against a carrier fleet - in test conditions - with drone swarms that had hyper sonic capabilities?
Some may say that testing against a carrier strike group would put lives at risk? Well the F18-As didnt have any missiles onboard - they were dummys.

Whats also of interest is this video where the Gremlins "dock / retrieved" the drones themselves!


Now the "wash" in the ocean that people saw, surely there could be something similar to Sandia Labs (again) Volant project where instead of docking / being retrieved by something else airborne - it could dock with an underwater carrier - like a submarine
Volant

I am not saying this is the answer before TTSA fans and ETH fans alike attack me, but considering all the noise and nonsense lately, I cannot remember a similar theory being put forward that makes more logical sense.

Yeah, that logic word -gonna get lynched for using logic!
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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: PokeyJoe

Pokey dispite all the jealousy and hate for TTSA below is why they are doing profound work, from TDL :

"This is the third New York Times article that we organized and put together at To the Stars. But this one’s dealing directly with the pilots that are current military pilots that we took to the Senate and Congress. A few weeks ago, there was another article that leaked on the Times that Congress is putting together a formal reporting mechanism to the Navy on UFOs. That’s us again. Our show Unidentified is us doing that. Taking these specific pilots to Congress, influencing legislative language for oversight committees and for the appropriations committees. In that process, it leaked and came out in the papers. But our show is what this article specifically is about. And [it’s] very real. Lieutenant Graves [said] they had a fleet of UFO’s follow their carrier battle group for eight months out to the Middle East where they’re intercepting them almost on a daily basis. It’s pretty unnerving."



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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Only with TTSA does a "plug" equate a "leak" lol



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

You contradict yourself quite alot to be honest, you state one position and then change dramatically into another when challenged. You came in all shouting for TTSA; then calmed down your rhetoric when people actually engaged in polite discourse with you, to the point where you started agreeing with their points. Then up the rhetoric again as well at all sorts of different times during the day.

I thought scientists were busy people doing important work!

Your use of language and grammar seems to change quite frequently too. Are you more than one person? I would conclude that as a possibility for all the points as above.

What is your goal / objective here apart from promoting TTSA?
What do you aim to achieve other than to derail this thread on the topic?

With the greatest respect, I hope you find what you seek and may I suggest that quite possibly some of that help may require assistance from a trained professional.

Have a great day

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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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Its play time Pigs






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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

In other news;

- Zondo was never part of AATIP

- Knapp will pull out a redacted document to prove he was (probably)

- People have had access to documents redacted for "National Security" - has someone broke the law?

- The MOD has released some of the final UFO files they have been keeping back -human effects of UFO and infighting at the MOD between believers and skeptics. People got upset; bless em!

- An alien autopsy email chain has been "leaked" and apparently shared by Zondos "hot under the collar" babe

- The Brit Review of "Unintended" is in the works; what a mess that was and drew less viewers than Ancient Aliens

- The Lunatic Fringe is alive and well as we can clearly see on this thread and on Social Media

You can bet there are a few people sat back and chuckling their socks off in a dark office somewhere at the absurdity of it all.

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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:11 PM
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Whatever.... unlike you I AM A CRITICAL THINKER....With an Open minded..... I am not locked in to a dogmatic viewpoint like yourself....present me with DATA/INFO....I will analyze and come to my own conclusion....anyway.

In this interview TDL literally states that he is being influenced by the CIA and DOD.. literally states that the CIA and DOD helped him design the TTSA plans...I am just really shocked by this. That's all....however I am still pleased that TTSA is bring forth light on the UAP subject.

"I wanted to ask about the WikiLeaks dump that revealed your e-mails to John Podesta. What was going through your mind when those e-mails came out?

It was the worst thing ever. Because there was the biggest secret on earth, the most classified, most taboo secret on earth. And I was the only person, ever, that was able to turn the valve and get it open. And I had a full flow of information. And when WikiLeaks dumped all of Podesta’s emails, and my communication with Podesta, that valve got shut off and it scared the death out of me — for the people I was working with, but also for humanity. I was like “Oh, my God, I got so close.” But that brought me the credibility to where everybody else — from CIA, the DOD — all circled around me and said, “You’re for real, and your ideas are good. But they’re not good enough yet. Let’s help design a better better version of the idea.” And that’s how the Academy of Arts and Science became a reality."

 

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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:17 PM
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That babe is a busy one!



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: pigsy2400

Whatever.... unlike you I AM A CRITICAL THINKER....With an Open minded..... I am not locked in to a dogmatic viewpoint like yourself....present me with DATA/INFO....I will analyze and come to my own conclusion....anyway.

In this interview TDL literally states that he is being influenced by the CIA and DOD.. literally states that the CIA and DOD helped him design the TTSA plans...I am just really shocked by this. That's all....however I am still pleased that TTSA is bring forth light on the UAP subject.





FFS you were just stanning Pigsy's posts, calling them "logical and well thought out". You're giving me whiplash!
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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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You beat me to it Inspector, I was about to bring that up. I also have whiplash!






posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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I also have whiplash, so I'll have to abandon this thread for a while - even if that means 'Mission Accomplished' in someone's eyes.

It is indeed beyond intolerable, and a definite thread-killer.



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: coursecatalog
What to make of this Alien Autopsy Memo leak?

Should we assume someone on the email chain leaked it or someone else?

Why were they even discussing this in 2001?


That leak is interesting for a number of reasons. The email chain is at least basically "real" in my opinion---meaning this is our cast of characters speaking. Of course there's the possibility some of it has been altered prior to the "leak" but I doubt it.

A thorough vetting by some of the researchers here is likely to produce a lot of interesting information. Just a quick read has potentially already answered a question I've had for awhile now. I present the following link not for it's contents (although that angle will pay off, too, I'm thinking in either this or other collaborations of the paper's authors.)

So here it is. This will test your "All Things Aviary" trivia knowledge:

Global Technology Transfer: Personal Experience from GM and the Private Sector By Kristin B. Zimmerman, Christopher C. Green

celltypespecific: I'm actually glad you showed up after all. The gang that couldn't shoot straight always give out more information than they think they are giving. That's why I think that watching 'Unidentified' and dissecting it is time well spent.
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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog

Coursecatolog.....so you are claiming that TFT/cometa is closely associated with TDL.....

Please confirm this point.


Confirm my point?!

I'm beginning to think aliens really do walk amongst us.



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400

I am not saying this is the answer before TTSA fans and ETH fans alike attack me, but considering all the noise and nonsense lately, I cannot remember a similar theory being put forward that makes more logical sense.

Yeah, that logic word -gonna get lynched for using logic!


Lol, getting attacked comes with the theorizing job. I suggest magnetic shield deflectors.


Something along the lines of what you proposed is on my list of possibles too. The personnel encountering this test would obviously need to NOT be in the know.

Say, for a minute, that someone that was a part of that target group thinking it was a true unknown wanted the world to know and leaked the info---it's at that point that through a combination of damage control and the IC's long time operational strategy of never letting a real failure go to waste that some of the activity we're witnessing was born.

Currently I'm straddling the fence on some variation of your proposed theory and the whole IDH thing. Lots of interesting connections and possible insight on the radar right now though. And just from a sociological perspective I'm finding it pretty durn fascinating. Those in the shadows probably find it sociologically interesting as well.



posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

Agrees on a few points gut, if the email chain is genuine I think most will still miss the point.

It doesn't prove it's contents however or what is implied, but if indeed real; may prove a few things that mean more in regards to the old birds I think.



"Puts on God helmet"
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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 01:43 PM
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One of those being that Kit Green is an operative dropped in the midst of some true believers and has an disingenuous but official agenda that some or most of the others don't know about?

This appears to be the Kristin Zimmerman referenced and might be the "Kristin" that Vallee has mentioned as Kit's " life partner" and is also referenced in relation to Kit in the "Team of 5" emails during the SERPO operation.



Society For Experimental Mechanics

Also of interest to me is how much Chinese connections/collaboration come up when looking at Kit's activities. I'm not suggesting anything--at this point--other than I find it of interest for a few different reasons.
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posted on Jun, 4 2019 @ 01:58 PM
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The MSM has been oddly negligent on the Chinese threats to our national security. China truly is our biggest national security threat and is finally starting to get a bit more attention. I'm still chewing on this, of course, but I have started to pay more attention to this angle as it might possibly relate to our conversation here.

Kit--through his university connections/research and other projects has done research in China. He and his team also addressed some threats related to China in the T.I.G.E.R. study for those familiar with it. I'm NOT suggesting Kit is a witting nor unwitting Chinese agent or our own 007 keeping an eye on the Chinese. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm just very curious about this aspect and wondering if it does come into play.

I'm throwing this link out just to prime the pump a little in case the discussion starts to veer in the direction of China.

Emory University Fires 2 Professors for Not Disclosing Ties to China
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