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originally posted by: Zedoo
a reply to: karl 12
Thanks guys for your replies, I did not intend to drift this post into political considerations (these are too much subjective to be cleared out in an internet forum anyway).
Sorry Pigsy for the mix up! It is actually interesting that I've assumed so; probably due to my own cultural conditioning
I was struck, kind of, by public consciousness because there’s a lot of studies that have been done, and a lot within the US government as well that I’m aware of, but that your mind… your mind over matter… that saying is very true… where they found, and I actually have a really amazing sensitive document that… and I’d always tell people about this, where they actually were…it was part of the UFO program at the Pentagon. They were following this kid in China that can move objects with his mind and he was like 10 years old.
Danny, Tom got this wrong in details.
1. The report on Chinese children carrying out the PK experiments was NOT part of the Pentagon’s DIA UAP program effort (e.g., AATIP etc.) but rather part of an earlier DIA Remote Viewing program effort that I founded & directed for 13 years.
2. The official sensitive (DIA) document had nothing to do with the U.S. gov carrying out such experiments. Rather it was simply a translation of a Chinese research report that was being circulated among U.S. researchers for evaluation.
Upon correcting Tom DeLonge on the details of the Chinese PK experiment reports, he responded thusly:
“Thank you for clarifying that, I do talk about this a lot because I think it was a great way to show people that the mind matters! I will correct it going forward.”
originally posted by: pigsy2400
Dr. Horace Drew (aka Red Collie)
Horace Drew grew up in Florida during the 1960s and 70s, then took a Ph.D in Chemistry at Caltech in 1981, where he did several of the first high-resolution x-ray structures of DNA. He then spent five years between 1982-1987 doing post-doctoral research on DNA and chromosomes at the MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology in Cambridge. He moved to Australia in 1987 and has lived there ever since. Later in the 1990s he began to do DNA forensic research as a private hobby with UFO investigator Bill Chalkler. Horace became interested in crop circles only in 2002, when the Crooked Soley 'curved DNA' formation showed what he and other colleagues were meeting to discuss, just 50 km away in Cambridge!
Bills comments on this;
While I've been taking an interest and occasionally participated in the attempts of many researchers to unravel the real story of the BAASS/ATTIP saga, my own advocacy of "an open science of UFOs and UAPs" has always meant I've looked at both BAASS and ATTIP as not good examples of "open science", in fact they are rather secretive.
That was not part of their agenda it seemed. The progress and evolution of a real UFO/UAP science would be benefited if it was part of their agenda. As some of these players moved on to vehicles like TTSA, caution seems appropriate, given that even TTSA are not very transparent. Instead of "jig-saw puzzles", "breadcrumbs" and fragments in a convoluted tale of clandestine investigations, we might have had an evolution of an open UFO/UAP science. While there are notable exceptions and great attempts to do "open science" in this area, the secretive approach seems to dominate. When organisations like MUFON chase after relationships with secretive type organisations then open UFO science and UFO research will be threatened.
I had these sorts of issues in mind when in 2010 I had overtures from Robert Bigelow's BAASS organisation to assist them with UFO data from Australia and China.
I was more concerned that this was going to be all one way and that feedback would be unlikely.
I was expecting some sort of collegial response and perhaps some discussion on the issue of reciprocity, and perhaps even some suggesting on support for the work required to get the data together. However I guess my comments, particularly on transparency and sharing were not in line with what BAASS had in mind. So in the end that was it. No response was received and that was the full extent of my relationship with BAASS.
originally posted by: Willtell
... we need to keep a close eye on the Skinwalker series. They tonight saw a legit UFO and we viewers also witnessed it.
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
Yes, CC, the Mormon connection is a heart-sinking detail. (No offence to our Mormon brethren; I'd love a harem of wives, too.)
PS: Which episode featured the UFO? I'll simply jump to it and avoid the reportedly bad scripts and atrocious acting by the unlikable meatheads patrolling the ranch. Perhaps the show improved, and I was wrong to be thoroughly bored after two minutes.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was a balloon, and it wouldn't surprise me if someone involved with the show knows someone who launched it.
originally posted by: RobertSheaffer
The "UFO" is from Episode 4 of Season 1. Here is a promo for it, showing the UFO. BFD. People are suggesting that it is either a balloon, or perhaps an aircraft.