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Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

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posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific


You destroy what is left of your credibility when you keep deleting your own posts.



posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: coursecatalog

originally posted by: celltypespecific


You destroy what is left of your credibility when you keep deleting your own posts.


False statement....actually shows my integrity....

I am one of the few on this thread that's capable of correcting one's error....





“The earlier you admit to your mistakes, the more time you would have to learn and grow from them.”
― Edmond Mbiaka


HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY
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posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: coursecatalog

originally posted by: celltypespecific


You destroy what is left of your credibility when you keep deleting your own posts.


False statement....actually shows my integrity....

I am one of the few on this thread that's capable of correcting one's error....





“The earlier you admit to your mistakes, the more time you would have to learn and grow from them.”
― Edmond Mbiaka


HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY


Are you saying you consistently discover your errors within minutes of posting?

I thought you were a scientist.



posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

Argh. Are you wanting a group hug Cellty?




posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific

False statement....actually shows my integrity....


Even you don't believe that crock. Unless... are you a politician?


HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY


Ouch. I can almost smell the indifference this time - I mean, where are the exclamations marks?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I think a group hug is off the cards, Baa.



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posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 02:02 PM
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So I think a group hug is off the cards, Baa.


No CB, tell me its not so!!!





posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: coursecatalog

Give him credit, 70% of his manic 'both sides of the argument' retweets are usually contradicted or debunked...yet still he has more breaking news to passive aggressively spam to his dear friends on ATS from his secret young gun connections on twitter.
How ever did we exist as mindless naive ignoramus' before his inner sanctum knowledge drops were gifted us poor old nobodies, and retracted.... gifted and retracted, gifted and retracted.

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posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

Is he real or someone’s character? Thats what I’m curious about tbh.



posted on Nov, 10 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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Anyhow...lets please move on from me and get back to debunking TTSA ...

As to the original intent of this glorious thread.
Anything new...?



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 05:38 AM
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a reply to: celltypespecific


Anything new...?


Depends what you call new.😥



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

Well Eric Davis has stated in a spat with Erica Lukes on Facebook in relation to the claims of two security guards; being the test subjects in human experimentation at the ranch etc etc...I found this comment interesting in relation to the Ranch & AAWSAP:


The AAWSAP was not about the ranch! It was about the Nimitz encounters and other Navy/USAF encounters. The ranch became a subordinate issue of interest because Bigelow owned it. There was no AAWSAP tasking for the ranch. - Eric Davis



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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: coursecatalog

originally posted by: Sublant

originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: mirageman

Yes. And when people who should know better keep saying we don't have this level of technology capable of such speed and maneuvers are they being purposely deceptive? Are they parsing their language so they are not technically lying? "We don't have aircraft that are capable of doing these things - but we do have sophisticated technology that can make it appear that we are doing these things."


We don't. And sure as heck didn't have it operational in international waters almost two decades ago.


How do you know? Do you have Cosmic Clearance?


Pretty much every self-proclaimed UFO researcher seems to shy away from the mere thought of black projects, shows like The Black Vault are the last bastions of thought I can re-affirm my alleged insanity with by now. Btw... WTF happened to Rich Dolan? Was Greer a fcking prophet and dang on the money all the time?
Anyhow. Meanwhile two disclosure experts got high af on the Joe Rogan show to spill some brand-new information I forgot already, at least they had the tape edited for national security reasons right at the beginning.

How did I miss this?
Is this really happening?

And why did pretty much everyone with TTSA jump to anti-gravity crafts when the initial document has a big fat UAV red flag debunking the whole threat angle right away? The Aliens, Russians and Chinese socialists throw unmanned tic tac's at us for the lulz cuz they've been the warmongering military-budgets with ears and eyes all the time?
Is this just the brave new old normative of WMD's in Iraq for the ignorant masses all over again?

How can the lies and deception become more obvious? Not saying they are the initial liars here, but promoting angles and spin to the point of a disinformation campaign doesn't seem to be a problem for TTSA at all. This stuff is Adrenalin, how you guys remain calm whilst we're fcked all over again with our own tax-Euros and Dollars is beyond me.

PS: this isn't only directed at you, the quote is here for context and to illustrate our divine rights.
PPS: rant over, feel free to have this removed in case the truth hurts too much.
PPS: looking forward to thread 3 in this Q-uest for titbits already. Doty of a read, I tell ya!




posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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Very interesting point.....

I am still having a hard time believing there was a "crash"....it does not make intuitive sense for such an advance craft to travel 100's of millions of miles to then "crash".....

I am also surprised that someone of Nolan's stature is playing games...and we have yet to solve the mystery behind Steve Justice and Chris Mellon.

Garry Nolan, Steve Justice, and Chris Mellon are the central pieces of the puzzle that is TTSA.
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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 11:16 AM
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Well here we have two people that certainly look like they believe that flying saucers have "crashed" here on earth...


There is no evidence outside of rumor, story, innuendo and dis/misinformation that this is the case and is merely wishful thinking. Starting with something that you believe to be true, which may very well be incorrect - means anything that is built on top of that idea - can potentially be worthless.

Even if you built a lot of information on top of that - that seemed valuable - which it could be, if the fact that nothing has crashed from outerspace - then all theories and ideas thereafter are mainly useless. I am of the opinion that Ufology is built on a foundations of lies..

Nolans response to this weirdos tweet - is an excuse - its un-falsifiable, which is something we see all the time in ufology.

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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 11:36 AM
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Project Camelot Article/Show About Kiviat Lawsuit Involving Joe Firmage

I would not recommend watching this two hour interview unless you are a masochist or a Pandolfi completist like me (still looking for that rare 7" flexidisc with Ron and Dan singing Bevis Frond covers :lol
but it did have some interesting moments pertaining to this thread:

* Both Kiviat and Paul Price claim the current owner of that mysterious place who we can't name here for some reason is the former business partner of Joe Firmage at ManyOne and it was in fact our old pal Hal Putoff who originally introduced the two. So odd that these same people keep popping up. You can either believe they are interested in this place because it contains portals to other worlds or because it offers a perfect testing ground for non-lethal weapons. I leave that up to you.

* This person we can't name and Firmage also share membership or former membership in a certain Utah-based church that seems fascinated by angels from other planets and ancient historical links to the Americas. This is another thread that runs deep in UFOlogy.

* Both Kiviat and Price (and I am not saying these guys are entirely reliable by any means) seem to think connections between the Firmage group and TTSA may be stronger than publicly admitted - with Pandolfi as the connecting tissue.

* Price tries to tie this all in somehow with Project Looking Glass which is (was?) allegedly an attempt to predict the future through a combo of computer algorithms and remote viewing, identify key people who may be significant in the future and then track them. This is where things get extra kooky to me (and I have a high kook tolerance).

* On a possible related note, purported remote viewer Buddy Bolton aka Psychic X aka Alien Protocols likes to troll Pandolfi online about some event that happened in Peru and something that is going to happen to Pandolfi (or all of us) in 4.5 years (starting from 2018).



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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There is no evidence outside of rumor, story, innuendo and dis/misinformation that this is the case and is merely wishful thinking. Starting with something that you believe to be true, which may very well be incorrect - means anything that is built on top of that idea - can potentially be worthless.



Every titbit of evidence will be scooped up by militarized budgets for national security reasons. And the way things unfolded with TTSA, it probably has to get way worse before it can get better.

I can't imagine a scenario with a crashed UFO and the allegedly free press on site, delivering the news to the people worldwide. We're well done here. Here's a weird thought: I say let's hand out more tax money for the alien threat then, feed the beast into deadly obesity! The only way to get out of the abyss might be a solid bet on the power of arrogance at it's core. Things will spill, leaks will occur...

What a cosmic joke
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posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: celltypespecific

Well here we have two people that certainly look like they believe that flying saucers have "crashed" here on earth...


There is no evidence outside of rumor, story, innuendo and dis/misinformation that this is the case and is merely wishful thinking. Starting with something that you believe to be true, which may very well be incorrect - means anything that is built on top of that idea - can potentially be worthless.

Even if you built a lot of information on top of that - that seemed valuable - which it could be, if the fact that nothing has crashed from outerspace - then all theories and ideas thereafter are mainly useless. I am of the opinion that Ufology is built on a foundations of lies..

Nolans response to this weirdos tweet - is an excuse - its un-falsifiable, which is something we see all the time in ufology.



Even if you built a lot of information on top of that - that seemed valuable - which it could be, if the fact that nothing has crashed from outerspace - then all theories and ideas thereafter are mainly useless. I am of the opinion that Ufology is built on a foundations of lies..


This is a very salient point.



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

So what do you make of all of it at this point Cellty?
What's YOUR opinion?



posted on Nov, 11 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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Below may seem tangential but it relates to why "disclosure" is inevitable.
Essentially technology from the "white" world is catching-up to that of the "black"

Advances in AI and quantum computers are actually more significant than the announcement of UAPs (which should be self-evident, given the fact that there are 100s of trillions of planets).







Astronomers took centuries to figure it out. But now, a machine-learning algorithm inspired by the brain has worked out that it should place the Sun at the centre of the Solar System, based on how movements of the Sun and Mars appear from Earth. The feat is one the first tests of a technique that researchers hope they can use to discover new laws of physics, and perhaps to reformulate quantum mechanics, by finding patterns in large data sets. The results are due to appear in Physical Review Letters


www.nature.com...
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