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You say it's scientific. I say, it's not very scientific because the basis is either unreliable or erroneous data or interpretations. Look at reference 22 for example:
originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Recently published scientific article behind the vidoes..
"Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles"
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I would call them "responses", but lacking any real answers, in fact the response indicates we may never get any real answers:
originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: Arbitrageur
BREAKING NEWS.......
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That's further to the point I tried to make in my previous post that it means nothing that the "Navy Analyst" was unable to identify something, since he might have no need to know about secret projects. But someone in the Pentagon knows, and if they ever figure out that was the answer, we're unlikely to be told anytime soon, and the response you posted is telling you more or less the same thing I tried to tell you. If it's one of ours and it's classified they are not going to declassify it to satisfy your curiosity. The pentagon might answer some congressman's inquiry in closed session, but the congressman won't be allowed to tell us either.
Any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information on military operations. Therefore, no release of information to the general public is expected.
In recent statements given to The Black Vault, the Navy admits they were not only aware of the leak as early as 2009 but also investigated how the footage ended up on the internet. “With respect to the 2004 sighting by aircraft from the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68); that video was widely shared throughout the ship at that time. In 2007, one of those crewmembers posted the video onto the public web,” said Joseph Gradisher, official spokesperson for the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare. “In 2009, the online post of the video came to the attention of Navy officials,” he continued.
The first known appearance of the “FLIR1” video was posted on the popular “alternative topic” message forum AboveTopSecret on February 4, 2007. A file named ‘f4.mpg’ was linked within a larger post on the site, which then led to a German production company’s website known as “Vision Unlimited” for the download. Although the digital video has long been removed from the active site online today, it can still be found on the “Wayback Machine,” a project by “Internet Archive” which aims to archive snapshots of the internet at random intervals.
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U.S. Navy Investigated Circumstances Behind Leaked UFO Footage
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The first known appearance of the “FLIR1” video was posted on the popular “alternative topic” message forum AboveTopSecret on February 4, 2007. A file named ‘f4.mpg’ was linked within a larger post on the site, which then led to a German production company’s website known as “Vision Unlimited” for the download. Although the digital video has long been removed from the active site online today, it can still be found on the “Wayback Machine,” a project by “Internet Archive” which aims to archive snapshots of the internet at random intervals.
originally posted by: pigsy2400
I would even hazard a bet, that AATIP ; which people have said was a "nickname" for the program was probably an investigation into one or two specific sightings, maybe a formal Navy investigation that has been mooted recently?
“People have had trouble trying to get documents out of the Pentagon by saying they want all documents on AATIP, and they have a hard time because that wasn’t the actual name of the program. “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program” is the actual name of the program. But AATIP was the nickname it went by."
This means that all three videos, which the Navy does officially acknowledge depict UAPs, are all considered “leaks” and not official releases.
“I very much expected that when the U.S. military addressed the videos, they would coincide with language we see on official documents that have now been released, and they would label them as ‘drones’ or ‘balloons,’” Greenwald told the news outlet. “However, they did not. They went on the record stating the ‘phenomena’ depicted in those videos, is ‘unidentified.’ That really made me surprised, intrigued, excited and motivated to push harder for the truth.”
originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: celltypespecific
who or what is tft?
UFO videos are footage of real 'unidentified' objects, US Navy acknowledges
originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog
The world is about to blow!!
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UFO videos are footage of real 'unidentified' objects, US Navy acknowledges
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originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: Sublant
At this point I am willing to believe that the NAVY did not identify the objects simply because they don't have enough data, or the data they have is not good enough to identify it. I mean, what do you do if all you've got are flir videos of a moving hot spot and (probably) radar data showing a moving spot not matching known signatures?
Fact is though, that the videos don't show anything extraordinary. So all you're left with is speculation. Which is of course great for the likes of TTSA, as they exploit this lack of information to spin their story.