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originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: mirageman
Yes, the Daily Star is a rag. But surely they didn't pull that Blue Book completely out of thin air, no?
Although I agree that the alien references did not come from Elizondo.
The program operated jointly out of the Pentagon and, at least for a time, an underground complex in Las Vegas managed by Bigelow Aerospace, a defense contractor that builds modules for space stations. It generated at least one report, a 490-page volume that describes alleged UFO sightings in the United States and numerous foreign countries over multiple decades.
originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
a reply to: Guest101
TTSA's general rough-and-ready UFO knowledge seems to have been gained from something akin to a Primary School Bumper Book Of UFOs - only less reliable and accurate.
> >>Finally...I can't IMAGINE what you are worried about: it's > >>E-N-T-E-R-T-A-I-N-M-E-N-T RIGHT? Hey, read the HEADLINES of your
> >>own > > >>tabloid news letter on SERPO...you are clear! No one will blame you
> >>for a thing! You have ALWAYS treated this as I have come to believe
> >>it > > >>SHOULD be...you are RIGHT and I was WRONG WRONG WRONG. This has > >>
ALWAYS > > >>been about entertainment and viral marketing, and putting memes and > >>engrams "out" there to proliferate FOR FUN! I SEE IT NOW!
originally posted by: mirageman
..... The evidence was kept in a 600-page “blue book” named after Project Blue Book, the US government UFO study that ran from 1947 to 1969.
Elizondo has one copy, which he keeps at an undisclosed location.
Is it the only copy?
originally posted by: Guest101
a reply to: ConfusedBrit
So maybe the agenda behind it all is not so much disclosure, but ‘forgetting the past’. It paints a picture of a Government that knows even less about UFO’s than someone who got a UFO book as a birthday present. And via TTSA, the US population will ‘re-discover’ the existence of UFO’s via some rogue heros without ever questioning what their Government really knew and withheld in the past 70 years.
“Maybe it could have been some set of physical and optical aberrations,” Justice says. “But when I put it in context of all the information in the video, that’s less likely to me.”
originally posted by: Guest101
Just watched a few episodes of Unidentified and my theory doesn’t fly: Lots of references to the UFO past and to Government cover-ups.
Actually, the series is not bad. Unfortunately they do not discuss the more mundane explanations for Gimbal and GoFast.
Sean Cahill who was in the U.S Navy for 20 years and was Top Security Officer on the USS Princeton, a Missile Cruiser in the U.S Nimitz Carrier Strike Group during the UFO encounter in November 2004.
There are four of us - FOUR - that physically saw this thing - FOUR. Two of us have talked in the New York Times article; one of 'em is gonna be in a show that comes out on 31st called 'Unidentified' - that person remains on active duty... two are on active duty and don't wanna come forward... [The radar operators] tracked up to ten - and I want to caveat this - TEN, not a hundred - TEN is the max they told us they saw. Now, if it was different from that, I was never told. The other rumours were:
You guys signed non-disclosures - never happened.
It was classified - never happened.
Men in suits showed up - we're gonna get that one later [giggles].
... It p*sses me off when people start making stuff up...
GEORGE KNAPP: I guess you're being diplomatic, but some of the stories and claims that have been made by people who may have been on those ships, are just bullsh*t.
FRAVOR: Okay, so we'll hit it... Who has seen 'Nimitz Encounters'? Stick your hands up. It's like a cartoon depiction, shows the airplanes flying around. It should not be on the internet anymore because I had them take it down... They have PTSD from this. I didn't have PTSD and I SAW it.
...The radar tapes from the USS Princeton, those were supposed to be pulled and archived. There are rumours that, oh, they pulled into port and some guys in suits came and took it off... [big breath]... I am doubtful, I'm sceptical. I could probably track down the CO, who I know, and ask him because if anyone's gonna come on board the boat and take something off that ship, Captain has to approve it. Okay... so watch what you read on the internet... There are some people that say they are witnesses that I will not be associated with. I'll just say that.