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originally posted by: ManyMasks
a reply to: zazzafrazz
I always highlight psychological phenomenon like Placebo/Nocebo effect, self-fulfilling prophecies and the double split experiment as scientific examples of this mystical "force", the power of individual concentrated consciousness shows actual physical change, this is something occultists through the ages have been saying and has been written down, chaos magick seems to be trying to bridge the gap between the two by my learning of this, by these claims it shows how important the media is and how that which is being projected to us is dividing us into our various pens where our consciousness is being consumed by that which others are producing. #genders #war #terror #racism #left #right #realitytv
.... it seems like there may be an awakening of sorts as more people rely on finding things out for themselves.
sure is interesting times we live in.
originally posted by: pigsy2400
You raise some interesting points Zazz, I have looked into the occult and our RV scientology friends amongst other theosophical interested parties that orbit this subject, even the original 007 himself.
Whats clear is that some of those that seemingly continue to orbit this topic have some quite odd hobbies and interests.
Many may look at it and disregard it as "woo" and think nothing more of it as they don't personally believe it themselves. I think that's missing the whole point though, lots of those involved DO believe in some of these things, which I think is a clue to their multiple decades long search for "________".
GK: Tom, as a guy who's followed this topic for a long time, you know about disinformation. You know the history of the topic, how certain researchers have been led to believe that they're about to get some real solid stuff…How do you know you're not being used or led down a path?
TD: It was through really interesting channels of how I met them. And some of which I have built relationships with... That are very close. And came from very, kind of... In very sanitized ways where I think people wouldn't suspect that... They don't have an interest in lying to me. They're not... If I was working with a big group from... And intel from the CIA, I would be very wary of it. But all of my guys are, the channels that they work in, I should say guys and girls, but the places that they work and the divisions that they work in are more science-based, engineering-based and defense-based, and something else that I can't say.
GK: We mentioned at the beginning about John Podesta. Now, you've interviewed Podesta. That's public information that's publicly known. I don't know if you're saying that he's one of your advisors, but if so, that would be the only name that has been known. But I wanted to point out, as far as political and partisan connections, he would be the only one linked any candidate or office holder in your group, right?
TD: John Podesta is in my documentary and my docuseries. I think that he's... I think he's somebody that everybody needs to watch, that's all I'm gonna say.
The 'host' or 'Eucharist' served at O.T.O. functions (including some orientations, and degree work) is sometimes called Cake(s) of Light. These baked goods, seemingly adapted from the Sepher Ha-Razim, contain honey, some sort of flour, oil/wine, and bodily fluids including blood, menses, and/or semen.
(The specific fluid varies by temple and specific interpretation; in recent years, citing health concerns, some preparers allow the blood/semen-soaked substance to air-dry, such that it can be burned to ash, the ashes from which are then mixed into the baking mixture. But this practice also differs from temple to temple, and should not be assumed to be 'uniform' or 'standard' between them, so be very aware of what you, the initiate, might be consuming.) Again, this act is offered in a divine symbolic context, but it may give a taste (heh) for broader O.T.O. practices.
TD: Because this one subject deals with religion, cosmology, physics, science, secrecy, the way we run our country, the relationships we have with other countries, relationships we have with other countries we're not supposed to have relationships with but we actually kind of still do, because of this issue, and that's just empowering, that's really empowering to know for the whole next generation of people that are gonna grow up and take over all these countries when we're all long gone. I think that this kind of subject can unify in so many areas beyond so many other subjects that are out there.
This is Chris Mellon with a photo of a "UFO" (or is it "UAP" now?) behind him at a TTSA presentation.
originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: The GUT
As I have stated previously...
TTSA does not speak with one voice.
Personally I believe Hal Puttoff, Eric Davis, Jeremy Corbell, TDL, and especially Bob lazar or problematic characters with a ton of baggage.
Individuals that are credible:
Lt. Ryan Grimes and other pilot