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Originally posted by helen670
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"Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world - he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him" (Revelations 12:7 9).
Ill post this now and see if I can come up with more info....
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
What is worse, being tormented in fire or no longer existing? I dont think anyone can give a real justified answer on that as none of us have truly experienced just plain death, at least to my knowledge.
Originally posted by galacticus
Satan is the prince of the power of the air,god of this earth ,and ruler of hell.Hell is anywhere GOD is not present.Satan is not in Hell because the War in heaven has not took place yet. In the book of Job,satan went to heaven to asked GOD's permission to make Job forsake GOD.The lake of fire in the book of Revelations is hell because GOD does not dwell there.
Originally posted by dnero6911
edit: Saint4God .. that Case-Studies/Salvation website is crap...
just like your not a hamburger for going to McDonalds? .. that's lousy I could have come up with a better anaylogy... That site just prys off of the "norms" response to religeon... any attempt to entertain people towards an idea is retarded... you point the direction, you don't carry them...
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Before i hear anything about the fallen angel story you need to show me where that comes from in the Bible because i can not find it anywhere, and i have talked to others who have read the bible multiple times and they say the same.