Derivatives (the real money that makes the world go round)

Two days ago my perception of the world changed drastically. Up until that point I was unaware of a certain kind of market trading that is actually the biggest global money spinner on the planet.

I read just a tiny article in the Guardian that enabled me to see all the latest political developments in the U.S, the EU and Britain in an entirely new light. All confusion ceased and I understood why we are being removed from the EU. It relates to the Derivatives Market.

This article will help you to understand just how big this trading is:

www.theguardian.com...

Multitrillion-pound business will continue even if Britain leaves EU without a deal

London and New York sit at the centre of the world’s multitrillion-pound derivatives market, with the US and the UK controlling 80% of the $594tn (£454tn) a year business – worth more than five times world GDP.

Designed as a response to Brexit – as the vast bulk of the EU derivatives trade is handled in London, outside of its control from as early as 29 March – the rules have been seen as a land grab for trading to move to EU cities such as Paris or Frankfurt. The EU’s plan has run into opposition from the US, which views the steps as overreaching its remit.

The new agreement between the US and the UK could help strengthen the City’s position as a leading global financial centre.

Anyone with any political instinct can you see the pattern here? Do you see how big Derivatives Trading is? It dwarfs even the whole world's GDP and the usual world trade, being five times bigger.

Now do you see why Britain "just had to leave"? Do you see why the D.I.V.O.R.C.E had to happen? I will leave you to do the thinking. It has made me understand the who, what and why for of Brexit, also where the action is really at finacially and globally. All the political triggers they manipulate us with are just levering devices. It plays us into seeing things "their way". Brussels has upset them with this attempt at controlling even London's Derivatives Trading. This regulation grab would have had profound implications for the U.S Derivatives Trading too and the whole world's as 80% of the Derivatives Trading is done between the U.S and London. Brussels and the EU made a move and they responded with BREXIT! This is what Brexit is really about. Is it really about little Britain and the lil ol' flag, lol, when they are playing with multi-trillions??? Think on that my played patriotic chums. Remember that patriotism really is the last refuge of a scoundrel and people so blind with prejudice that they get diced around the Monopoly board by hands in another financial dimension without ever knowing that is what is happening, only a pawn in their game, or rather a chip.

This world is being run as one giant Casino. They kid us there are no trillionaires in the world? I know there are some. Welcome to the pleasure-dome, Kubla Khan's cosy little home!

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan A stately pleasure-dome decree:

I have been putting all the pieces together about the way our world is really run and by whom. This news article has really put me in the picture. I hope it helps you too.

a reply to: Malak777

So you see Brexit as an intrigue, not as an extremely stupid behavior?

a reply to: Malak777

Thank you for posting this. I will watch when I can.

For further understanding of this hellhole, research derivatives and foreclosure/fraudclosure. Especially the work by Matt Taibbi at the Rolling Stone back in 2008 and going forward. It's an eye-opener to what really crashed the mortgage markets in 08. And the settlement in 2011 did nothing to fix the problem. It will happen again.

I am not half as worried about Brexit now. It may well end up the lesser of two evils. I did not want to leave the EU, but if Brussels made such a crazy demand then it was obviously going to turn out like this. Everyone loses now, which is sad. Sometimes you should just not rock the boat.

I almost sense the anti Semitism undertones too of this Brussels power grab for so much. It is like they wanted to take out the Western U.S/Israeli/British Triangle. It would indeed have totally changed this Derivatives Market for the U.S and London. Both would have lost out big time to the Bureacratic Beast of the EU. Power would have shifted. We are talking here about the most powerful area of world finance. Money is power. This Market even dwarfs anything Chinese.

I see now why the EU have gone all "funny" on Israel and the U.S. I really do think that it would have been a a REAL BAD THING for Brussels to have gained political authority of this. Well spotted, you dudes of power who have prevented this!

I still hate the fact that I can't be a EU citizen and there is so much I loved about the EU. However, this is a tough lesson that needed to be taught to the EU. There is no patriotic motive I have at all, just COMMON SENSE for wanting things kept as they are right now. It is the healthiest thing. Sometimes we must sacrifice a hand in the machine to escape being caught up in it and totally mangled.

Imagine if Brussels had gained so much power over the U.S and London! Israel would have been in big trouble, lol. Talk about BDS. Wow, I see how serious all this was now. I am annoyed that I did not have this information sooner as it is central to the Brexit debate.

If Brussels backed down over this I wonder if Britain and the U.S might start warming up to the EU again? In a sense it is like WW2 all over again, but without all the nasty stuff. It is all political and democratically played out now.

I really did not want this to happen. Brussels played with fire and got burned. Remember this lesson in history then!

originally posted by: surnamename57
a reply to: Malak777

So you see Brexit as an intrigue, not as an extremely stupid behavior?

It was a necessary evil. See my new comment for details. It was not stupid at all. It was a protective measure against a Brussels supreme financial power grab and biggest Heist of the Millenium to establish itself as the most powerful political and financial force on the planet with even London and New York as its feet , lol. Seriously, that is how big it is in terms of Western Civilization. I don't trust the EU. I think they still want the Jews out of the equation and I do not trust this as history informs me of the consequences.

So, all of those people who voted Brexit out of any anti Semitism motives have shot themselves in the foot big time. It is always like that. Our motives need to be positive or we will always end up in a big mess. Never ever vote out of prejudice. Seriously, it will always end up with our tears if we use politics in such a degenerate way.

Once this has died down and Brexit is completed, when the U.S and London feel safe from the Brussels plot, when Brussels realize their limitations and respect certain traditions, then I expect the populist illusion will be fully exposed. It was just a necessary move to protect certain big interests, the biggest interests on the planet right now.

Yes, this is all intrigue. This is the real reason why. The Brussels Grab attempt and Brexit are a cause and effect. It is an EU ambition gone very sour because it was nothing more than a power grab, possibly even motivated by prejudice too. I do not trust Brussels with all that power as it is run by commissioners who are not democratically elected. It is a political hybrid and it scares me how left wing it might go in the future, kind of new age communism left wing. It loves legislation and bureacracy as we know. Political state bureacratic control (even boardering on non democratic in personality) of the biggest financial global market on the planet is not a good thing right now. We have enough of that coming from China and Russia.

That is my political opinion, all considered.

money is printed on paper, do i need to say more

originally posted by: musicismagic
money is printed on paper, do i need to say more

Soon it will be printed in code! It is bound to happen. It already nearly has happened in the West and in China.


I was just thinking I should have called this thread...

Hands Off My Derivatives!!!

a reply to: Malak777

When was that 'power grab' attempted? Before or after Brexit referendum? Would you make it clear to me?

As far as I know, such attempt is being made at the present time.

originally posted by: surnamename57
a reply to: Malak777

When was that 'power grab' attempted? Before or after Brexit referendum? Would you make it clear to me?

As far as I know, such attempt is being made at the present time.

The present time for us, but not for them.

They would have known this was going to happen. I expect some time ago in Brussels they said that they would be legislating in the future to bring the Derivatives Market in the EU under EU control. Britain and London, indirectly U.S too, of course are in the EU's regulatory control of the Derivatives Market then if Brussel's got its way. Brussels and the EU would then control just about ALL the world's Derivatives Market by political state regulation. I bet the British/U.S/Israel Triangle said a gigantic big "No Caesar!" then "arranged" Brexit accordingly with a very genius media capaign indeed of whipping up an anti EU storm.

Now the EU are trying to poach away the Market from London. The U.S is saying it will not let that happen. Brussels "Nil Point" this time it seems.

They wanted it all and will be coming away with a great deal less. The EU are going to lose any control of London now except possibly for the Customs Union, which is very small potatoes indded compared to even a fraction of the Derivatives Trading that goes through London.

I never realized just how big this thing is. I was told of London's importance in finance, but never realized it was so huge. What Brussels wanted here is totally Over the top. No wonder there has been this Brexit response. Imagine a Brussels that is pro Palestine right now having all that regulation control of the biggest financial market on the globe! Money is power. It is power's rocket fuel. We must never forget that.

It isn't happening any more. It tried to happen. So in answer to your question it is no longer happening.

a reply to: Malak777


These are just all the little sub-games going on.

Trillionaires, billionaires, etc are all just illusional/delusional states of being; the real control, and wealth is the people that created the system, and control the entire world financially via their banking system.

The real power is controlling everyone's sweat equity, because the money doesn't exist in the first place. Keep your eye on the ball.

Here's a short vid, I highly recommend it and the book a Creature from Jekyll Island by Edward G Griffin.

It's only a conspiracy if they hide it, however they don't, and it's well know if people actually do the leg-work, or have working in the industry for some time.

a reply to: Realtruth

Well yes they are the big players, but it is no illusion. Ask Mr Rothschild in his mansion if it is an illusion.

Prejudice in politics will do us no good. These people made their wealth, influence and power legally in democracy. We can't just legislate or dream them out of existence because we do not like them and feel a bit jealous. Hitler tried those kind of politics and look what it led to.

We can either let money roam free with a minimum of state pulling the strings or we can be like China and try to control it by state politics. Letting a state or a king control it always turned out real bad for the world. We just had constant turf wars and constant slaughter continually for thousands of years.

It is that choosing the lesser of two evils in this life. Unfortunately that is the only choice we have. There is no illusion. The information is available to us if we look. We must all play the political game or the political game will play us. Arm yourselves with political consciousness.

a reply to: Malak777

No, my friend, you are comparing apples to oranges.

It's the same old story: nothing happens by accident, nothing is as it seems, and everything is connected.

It is not a coincidence that there are so many threads like this here on ATS.

a reply to: surnamename57

You are taking the thread away from what it is about. This thread is about MARKET DERIVATIVES. There are no threads about what I have written here specifically. I do not understand what you are trying to achieve.

What are you saying "No" to me about? Please be specific. You can't just say "no" to me without telling me what you are saying no to. That is rather silly and unreasonable when I have presented real bones for you to gnaw on.

I am very clued up on politics. i have been at this a long time. I watch every day. I am putting the pieces together. I think you do not understand what a bank is and what a banker is.

These people in the Derivatives Market are not in their banker role. Banks will of course be playing with their customers' money here in one sense or another. Everyone is in this Market who is wanting to make the biggest kind of money you can make on the planet. This is the biggest money trading. Even the whole world's GDP is five times less than the money going between the U.S and London (or 80% of it at least). It is the world's financial "hot-wire"! That is why the EU want to have regulatory (and therefore political) powert over it.

I don't want any of the anti Rothschild Rockefeller stuff here. I think you are an anti Semite spreading bad feelings around about Jewish families when you target them specifically as to blame. You are plain wrong. Your motives are those of prejudice. You have no credibility with me posting videos like that and I take great offense that they are even appearing on my well presented and civilized thread.

Why are you against these people? Why have you chosen them out to concentrate on specifically and blame? Is it because they are Jewish? If they were of your nationality would you be much happier about it?

It is a free world. I'll tolerate your blaming families for all the world's ills, but tell you you are well out of order and that I completely distrust all your motives. Sorry, but that is the truth of it.

My interests have won out. London stays boss! Bruseels has a bloodied nose for this! It was bad politics. I dare say Britain is going to have a bright future once all this nonsense is out of the way with and I hope Brussels learn a lesson not to mess with the U.S, Britain and Israel to crowbar its way to financial dominance.

In thsi instance Brussels seem to have behaved like henchmen with crowbars at the bottom of this particular now drained swamp.

Deal or no deal Britain will make it and so will the free world. Not so sure whether the EU is going to be able to stand the test of time though. I feel bad about that, but it has squandered its relevance and credibility on old prejudices yet again.

See, just by you posting here your anti this and that family I prove how ENDEMIC anti Semitism is in the EU and therefore why it might actually be at the bottom of some of the EU's most recent political behavior like muscling in on London and the U.S.

originally posted by: Malak777
a reply to: surnamename57

You are taking the thread away from what it is about. This thread is about MARKET DERIVATIVES. There are no threads about what I have written here specifically. I do not understand what you are trying to achieve.

What are you saying "No" to me about? Please be specific. You can't just say "no" to me without telling me what you are saying no to. That is rather silly and unreasonable when I have presented real bones for you to gnaw on.

I am very clued up on politics. i have been at this a long time. I watch every day. I am putting the pieces together. I think you do not understand what a bank is and what a banker is.

These people in the Derivatives Market are not in their banker role. Banks will of course be playing with their customers' money here in one sense or another. Everyone is in this Market who is wanting make the biggest kind of money you can make on the planet. This is the biggest money trading. Even the whole world's GDP is five times less than the money going between the U.S and London. It is the world's hotwire! That is why the EU want to have regulatory (and therefore political) powert over it.

I don't want any of the anti Rothschild Rockefeller stuff here. I think you are an anti Semite spreading bad feelings around about Jewish families when you target them specifically as to blame. You are plain wrong. Your motives are those of prejudice. You have no credibility with me posting videos like that and I take great offense that they are even appearing on my well presented and civilized thread.

Why are you against these people? Why have you chosen them out to concentrate on specifically and blame? Is it because they are Jewish? If they were of your nationality would you be much happier about it?

It is a free world. I'll tolerate your blaming families for all the world's ills, but tell you you are well out of order and that I completely distrust all your motives. Sorry, but that is the truth of it.

My interests have won out. London stays boss! Bruseels has a bloodied nose for this! It was bad politics. I dare say Britain is going to have a bright future once all this nonsense is out of the way with and I hope Brussels learn a lesson not to mess with the U.S, Britain and Israel to crowbar its way to financial dominance.

In thsi instance Brussels seem to have behaved like henchmen with crowbars at the bottom of this particular now drained swamp.

Deal or no deal Britain will make it and so will the free world. Not so sure whether the EU is going to be able to stand the test of time though. I feel bad about that, but it has squandered its relevance and credibility on old prejudices yet again.

See, just by you posting here your anti this and that family I prove how ENDEMIC anti Semitism is in the EU and therefore why it might actually be at the bottom of some of the EU's most recent political behavior like muscling in on London and the U.S.

Wrong response. I didn't post any videos.

a reply to: Malak777
Don’t bring your anti semetic accusations to ATS they are uncalled for and false.

You have a bias, this is clear from your anti Tommy Robinson thread, which I see you haven’t been back to.

You are not clued up. You are biased and unwilling to learn. People are not against Rothchilds and Rockefellers because they are JEWISH. If you had done any research AT ALL you would understand this.

You band crap like that around the forums and you should expect to receive a massive dose of disrespect. You don’t deserve any respect. Your insults disgust me.

a reply to: and14263

Agreed this isn't about a particular race, or religion.