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AOC is Lying to You, and You Know It.

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posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 04:04 AM
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Politicians lie. All of them. If you have an issue with liars, you must not support Trump then, since he’s at 8,000+ verifiable lies.
Why complain about one but not the other?

Furthermore, so many of you complain about her doing a magazine shoot wearing expensive clothes (that she didn’t buy) claiming that she clearly doesn’t understand what lower class/poorer folks are going through, and why would anyone support her because she definitely doesn’t care, etc.
However, a lot of people truly believe that Trump is the savior of the middle and lower classes...but the guy has a golden toilet. Have you seen pictures of his home(s)? Extravagance might as well be his middle name.

How on earth would someone believe that he understands the plight of the average person, but there’s no way AOC does? The argument about her wearing expensive clothes seems really hypocritical to me, unless you feel the same way about Trump.

I say all this to show that, if you’re going to present an argument about how something disqualifies a person from getting things done (in this case, your arguments are that she lies and wears nice things in phot shoots), you should argue that against everyone (politicians in this case) who does similar things.

Would we have any left if we weren’t selective with our outrage?




posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 04:21 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

it would actually be far worse. Bernie's numbers for free higher education for all are actually WAY off. you see his numbers are based on currant numbers of people taking higher education. but the thing is that if that free higher education were to start, then everyone who never had the opportunity to get higher education would flock to colleges and universities to avail themselves of it. PLUS you would also end up with people who have already had higher education also wanting to go back and take degrees and such that might actually help them get better jobs, where their previous education was completely useless in the real world. or who's education's jobs were massively over populated making it hard to get jobs in their fields.

in fact not only would the costs become astronomical with the millions of people seeking that free education (we are likely talking not a measly $47 billion a year for at least the first few years, but more likely hundreds of billions of dollars, just for tuitions each year). but another side effect would be that collages and universities would not be able to handle anywhere near the numbers of people that they would need to provide educations to. think of it this way. just how many colleges and universities are currently empty, and taking in every student that applies? so there would also need to be a huge building boom just to provide the space needed to educate everyone, more hundreds of billions of dollars. since at that point higher education paid by tax payers would become a right for every American, and thus they would have to let everyone avail themselves of that education.

and this would lead to even more issues that this free education would cause. once higher education is free, and thus more people would be able to get it. first off it would cause a huge amount of people to take low paying jobs since there will not be anywhere near enough jobs for people with higher education. which in turn would cause pretty much every job to require a collage degree. including jobs like flipping burgers at McDonalds, or being a cashier at Wal-mart. you might think i am overblowing the issue, but i am not. i have lived in a country that has a much higher number of people with college education vs the number jobs that really need a higher education. years ago while traveling out in the Provinces (pretty much out in the middle of nowhere in the country), i saw a big ad for a gas station chain looking for new workers. for cashiers they wanted not just a college education, but preferably with their degree being accounting. for drivers for their trucks to deliver the fuel, they required a college degree (didn't seem to matter what degree). even to just pump gas they required at least some college education. and remember in the US those jobs at a similar gas station are mostly taken by people without even graduating high school. so in the end this free education would end up causing the requiring higher education for the most basic jobs. which means that without a college/university education, you would not even be able to find a job. forget about getting a high paying job.

and that is where all Bernie's and AOC's supporters who are wanting their promised free education, are letting themselves be misled. they all think that by being given that free higher education, that they will all be able to get high paying jobs. but unfortunately high paying jobs do not increase when more people have more education. they see themselves no longer having to work their low paying jobs as waitresses, cashiers, burger flippers and the like, because with that higher education they will instead be working as executives and management. but the reality is that all that would change in the end, is the requirements for every job. and that in the end they will still be minimum wage waitresses, cashiers and burger flippers. just ones that happen to have college and university degrees. and that if they can't get those degrees, they won't even be able to work at those jobs anymore.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 04:31 AM
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AOC is well minded but she naive and out of her depth, when it comes to economics. The 3 billion dollar tax break comment seals it. LOL stopped listening to both sides honestly, cause once the Dems lost with Hilliary they became never Trumpsters the country and its people be damned. LOL AOC is just symptomatic that the Dems dont have a clue or the answer either.

For the left she will quickly become the girl they wish they never voted for.




posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 04:38 AM
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These anti-aoc threads read so similar to the anti-trump threads I swear that sometimes I get confused .



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 05:02 AM
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originally posted by: generik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

it would actually be far worse. Bernie's numbers for free higher education for all are actually WAY off. you see his numbers are based on currant numbers of people taking higher education. but the thing is that if that free higher education were to start, then everyone who never had the opportunity to get higher education would flock to colleges and universities to avail themselves of it. PLUS you would also end up with people who have already had higher education also wanting to go back and take degrees and such that might actually help them get better jobs, where their previous education was completely useless in the real world. or who's education's jobs were massively over populated making it hard to get jobs in their fields.

in fact not only would the costs become astronomical with the millions of people seeking that free education (we are likely talking not a measly $47 billion a year for at least the first few years, but more likely hundreds of billions of dollars, just for tuitions each year). but another side effect would be that collages and universities would not be able to handle anywhere near the numbers of people that they would need to provide educations to. think of it this way. just how many colleges and universities are currently empty, and taking in every student that applies? so there would also need to be a huge building boom just to provide the space needed to educate everyone, more hundreds of billions of dollars. since at that point higher education paid by tax payers would become a right for every American, and thus they would have to let everyone avail themselves of that education.

and this would lead to even more issues that this free education would cause. once higher education is free, and thus more people would be able to get it. first off it would cause a huge amount of people to take low paying jobs since there will not be anywhere near enough jobs for people with higher education. which in turn would cause pretty much every job to require a collage degree. including jobs like flipping burgers at McDonalds, or being a cashier at Wal-mart. you might think i am overblowing the issue, but i am not. i have lived in a country that has a much higher number of people with college education vs the number jobs that really need a higher education. years ago while traveling out in the Provinces (pretty much out in the middle of nowhere in the country), i saw a big ad for a gas station chain looking for new workers. for cashiers they wanted not just a college education, but preferably with their degree being accounting. for drivers for their trucks to deliver the fuel, they required a college degree (didn't seem to matter what degree). even to just pump gas they required at least some college education. and remember in the US those jobs at a similar gas station are mostly taken by people without even graduating high school. so in the end this free education would end up causing the requiring higher education for the most basic jobs. which means that without a college/university education, you would not even be able to find a job. forget about getting a high paying job.

and that is where all Bernie's and AOC's supporters who are wanting their promised free education, are letting themselves be misled. they all think that by being given that free higher education, that they will all be able to get high paying jobs. but unfortunately high paying jobs do not increase when more people have more education. they see themselves no longer having to work their low paying jobs as waitresses, cashiers, burger flippers and the like, because with that higher education they will instead be working as executives and management. but the reality is that all that would change in the end, is the requirements for every job. and that in the end they will still be minimum wage waitresses, cashiers and burger flippers. just ones that happen to have college and university degrees. and that if they can't get those degrees, they won't even be able to work at those jobs anymore.


Free higher level education does not automatically mean that everyone gets to do it or that there will be a massive incense in people in further education.

It just moves the primary qualification for further education from being financial to ability. There will still be minimum entry requirements to study a particular course, what you might see is increase in those requirements as the pool is no longer limited to whose who can afford the course.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 05:15 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Lol...that there is funny I dont care who you are.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:14 AM
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originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Champion of the working class



you must have a boring life. so, she is wearing something expensive, what a shame! but your president needs golden toiletts, right?

edit on 25-2-2019 by oloufo because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I like her because she makes Republicans so angry. If we are experiencing depression style poverty rates maybe we need to return back to FDR levels of taxation. The profits from productivity gains are so high the billionaires will not even see a shred of difference to their lifestyles.



The music will keep playing! It sure looks like a young Trump in the first 20 seconds of the video!



Libertarians and normal Liberal D's in fact don't appear to like her STUPIDITY, so what does that make the people who actually do?



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:32 AM
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AOC is Lying to You, and You Know It.

Yes she is.

Anyone with an ounce of intellectual honesty KNOWS there is not enough money to pay for the snip she and her ilk want.

The GND destroys entire industries. Many millionaires in those targeted industries.

They also ignore many rich people just up and leave.

The TAX BURDEN is going to fall on me,YOU,EVERYONE.

There will be a snipload load of tax's created.

The idiots in her party want to tax the rain now. The GND had the Carbon tax in it.

Those socialist utopias they love so much have the VAT tax.

Education is going to cost in the trillions because student loan debt went well over during the last administration.

AOC,Sanders,Harris and the rest are just stupid crazy.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:49 AM
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I've found that living the lifestyle of the poor and obscure has its perks at times.
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posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: VoiceOfTheEmperor

We'll see.
Second line.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:59 AM
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edit on 25-2-2019 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: carewemust


Heard last week that she inked a $10 million movie deal of her biography.


You heard wrong. A documentary was made about her campaign as well as three other women that ran in 2018. The documentary premiered at Sundance to rave reviews. Netflix then bought the rights to the documentary for $10 million.

Just because AOC is one of the four subjects of the documentary does not mean she gets any of that money.

For someone that believes the spreaders of fake news should be tried for treason, you sure spread a lot of fake news.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: AgarthaSeed

Your reply(and photo) is easily the best
response to hypocrisy that I have
read this year.

Who is financing her rise?
That is where the secret lies.

Great Stuff S&F




posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:19 AM
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originally posted by: halfoldman
Oopsie (sorry) wrong thread.

I thought it said AC/DC



Dirty Dems and they'll leave us Dirt Poor




edit on 25-2-2019 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: mtnshredder

Yeah but I would love to have a go at the rich and shameless lifestyle.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal


Who is financing her rise?
That is where the secret lies.


How is it a secret? Campaign contributions are publicly available.

Campaign Finances



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Well it definitely can cause complacency.
Kind of like working for the Dept. of Motor Vehicles.
It does not take long for one to realize that now matter
how extra hard one works the pay is the same.
Everyday the faces show up in a line with a problem.
Day after day after day.

Incentive is what drives productivity and achievement...
This great artist in Vienna painted the facade of an old
bullet ridden building with a glorious springlike multicolour.
Locals and tourists alike were quite moved by the visual.
It was an artists moment of expression.

When asked to create more it was replied,
But of course!
Just buy me the paint.
Someone always has to pay.
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posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I like her. I think she's great.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 08:09 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Thanks Xcalibur for the link.
That is good stuff,
but a meteoric media rise
generally has handlers, and
planners.

That little campaign cost money.
Those outfits were not exactly
from the Salvation Army.
Checked your link, it looks to me like a
totally fake spreadsheet.
Lots of numbers from general sources.
Generalized and not itemized.
I am sure the IRS will discern the details.

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