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Maduro, Venezuela, Burns Aid Trucks Bringing Food and Medicine to Venezuelans.

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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 09:12 PM
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Those soldiers surrendering their arms and laying down at the border is very telling of the situation in Venezuela.

All politics aside, I hope my fellow humans down south stay safe and figure things out before they pass the point of no return...




posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: seaswine

Unfortunately they are at a point of no return already. The "Venezuelan socialist state sponsored Telesur" is claiming, like it always does, that the opposition did this when even the ONU was there and they have stated it was the venezuelan regime under Maduro who ordered this. But "telesur" has been doing that since Chavez took by force control of it, and shut down all other news who dared go against the left-wing regime...

The democrats/the left in the U.S. are trying to do the same under the guise of "fighting fake news", and Obama himself said he was going to do it (shut down conservative radio stations). Thankfully he wasn't able to do it, and Hillary was not chosen as POTUS even after all the illegal tactics used by the DNC, Obama officials, and other left-wing plants in government who tried to get her elected by any means.

Make no mistake, what Venezuela is today is what the left, including AOC, Bernie Sanders, Obama, George Soros, etc are trying to transform the U.S. into.

If people in the U.S. don't wake up, talking about those in the left and those in the middle who keep voting democrat, we will wake up one day with the U.S. transformed into Venezuela or Cuba, or North Korea...


edit on 23-2-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add and correct comment.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yep. Except with a global-scale military force, a massive and highly advance nuclear arsenal, and generally the means to wreak havoc upon the world.

The collapse of the US is an existential threat to everyone on Earth.
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:22 PM
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Update, at least 285 people have been hurt by the Venezuelan regime forces. A doctor stated on the news that they even lack the necessary equipment to treat these people. I also saw just a minute ago as 3 more Venezuelan soldiers, 2 men and one woman, asked for asylum in Colombia and deserted from the Venezuelan regime. They received injuries from trying to get away from the regime forces that are still loyal to Maduro. The protesters protected these soldiers when they could, and helped them get to the Colombian border.

Maduro has called to break away with all ties with Colombia, and like always, claimed all these problems are caused by "the imperialists/capitalists," when it is ALWAYS socialism that causes these problems.



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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:27 PM
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BTW, i just noticed I mentioned the ONU, which is the Spanish acronym for the UN.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Where are the socialism apologists who swear that Maduro's government is doing great things?

It's definitely not socialism's fault right? RIGHT?



Good question.

Last I checked the left is in lock step with the idea to oust Maduro.

In fact, the democratic party as a whole is slamming Bernie for not taking a stance.

So the "by any means necessary" party is in lock step with the Trump admin, bolstered by the media.

I'm not an apologist by any stretch, Venezuela has been in turmoil for some time. It's the fault of failed policy by many of their leaders.

The question remains, is it our place to "save" them?

Further, should we be comforted or alarmed by the sudden alliance of our domestic mortal enemies, who are elitists with a history of serving MIC interests?

Personally I smell agenda with hints of Mccarthyism.

I'll kill the arguement that I am virtue signaling. It's not my house, not my problem.
but it is my problem if my tax dollars makes it worse and kills my countrymen.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 12:03 AM
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A word from Senator Rudio...


Grave situation developing right now inside of #Colombia.
@freddysuperlano a member of the National Assembly of #Venezuela was poisoned this morning at breakfast inside of Colombia & is in serious condition at the hospital.

His assistant Carlos Salinas has died from poisoning.

9:31 PM - 23 Feb 2019



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 12:30 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker





Good question.

Last I checked the left is in lock step with the idea to oust Maduro.

In fact, the democratic party as a whole is slamming Bernie for not taking a stance.


I was asking about the ones here. Not the DNC who would do well to distance themselves from the socialist candidates they have endorsed in recent months.




I'm not an apologist by any stretch


I would never accuse you of being one.




Venezuela has been in turmoil for some time. It's the fault of failed policy by many of their leaders.


Agreed.




The question remains, is it our place to "save" them?


What's the threshold? The real question is how many civilians do we let them murder before it becomes appropriate to intervene? Is it a numbers game? When is it enough? We can hope for the best by leaving well enough alone, making a speech or two, and letting the chips fall where they may, but who does that make us in the face of mass starvation and massacre? I do not want to go to war, but I DO want to help those people. However that can be accomplished, with as little suffering as possible, we should seek those avenues.




Further, should we be comforted or alarmed by the sudden alliance of our domestic mortal enemies, who are elitists with a history of serving MIC interests?


Neocons and Neolibs will do what they do. Promote war. But we can also speak out against Maduro, socialism, and express our support for the Venezuelan people and not HAVE TO go to war.




Personally I smell agenda with hints of Mccarthyism.


The implicit support for socialism on the American left is undeniable. Socialism isn't a benign political philosophy or a list of government services cherry-picked from the private market for nationalization. It is a total departure from the philosophies that made us a free nation. It is NOT McCarthyism, it is reality.




I'll kill the arguement that I am virtue signaling.


Hey I remember what it's like to have a debate with an adult. I also know what virtue signaling looks like.




It's not my house, not my problem. but it is my problem if my tax dollars makes it worse and kills my countrymen.


If we do nothing, what is the cost? Perhaps we should let that experiment run its course. But then who would history view as the true criminals?


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posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 01:54 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
I think we pollute too much. We do need to fix that.

I'm not sold on AGW because the math isn't actually there to prove it, no matter how much they cherry pick stuff.

Is our climate changing? Evidence is there to suggest that... we should be sliding into another mini ice age.


According to some studies, or, well, well intended people, we're still in the last ice age.

What we're going to cop will destroy everything.. but instead of a helping hand, we're paying to let the corporations pour more fuel on the inferno.

Nothing we do will change the fate of the earth, but we're watching people actively help it...

idk, I'll be dead before drought and famine hits the planet in such proportions.. might as well make a buck.

implying I could, I can't, watches the world burn... or freeze, depends on which side you're on. I guess..



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 03:18 AM
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If America and other countries would just stay out of Venezualan politics, then everything would have been FINE, and he could have killed his people off without having to deal with everyone else!!!!

GAH!!!!!

Cant you see this is your fault America!



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 03:57 AM
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This is all very similar to me to when we were fed the narrative about Libya and how we had to go “save” them. In fact I’m sure I see some of the same people here saying the same lines. I’m sure the people over there feel much gratitude now for the American brand of “saving”.

I just wonder where our military and threatened invasions were at when Rwanda, Djibouti, and the many other places that were really humanitarian disasters happened, in nations with fewer natural resources.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 03:59 AM
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Convenient to blame the acts of evil people on a system.

I'm not even pro socialism. Just thought it was funny how transparent your thinking is.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: pexx421
This is all very similar to me to when we were fed the narrative about Libya and how we had to go “save” them. In fact I’m sure I see some of the same people here saying the same lines. I’m sure the people over there feel much gratitude now for the American brand of “saving”.

I just wonder where our military and threatened invasions were at when Rwanda, Djibouti, and the many other places that were really humanitarian disasters happened, in nations with fewer natural resources.


But wait........I thought this was all true because according to the left, were seeing their refugees at our border and they are trying to get away from a violent regime and persecution and starvation..........

So which is it?

Are they really fleeing that, or is it made up? Because the double speak is mind numbing (



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 04:51 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
Convenient to blame the acts of evil people on a system.

I'm not even pro socialism. Just thought it was funny how transparent your thinking is.


How convenient to ignore that "time after time, after time" when socialism is embraced in every nation, ALL of those nations become authoritarian regimes that destroy the economy of those nations, and people's lives...

What is transparent is your attempt to claim, yet again, that "socialism is not at fault." Every time something like this happens, left-wingers like yourself proclaim "that isn't socialism's fault..." When in fact it is socialism's fault.

You can't simply ignore the history behind socialism/communism and the billions of people who have, or are suffering, the millions who have been murdered, and the millions more who have been, and are imprisoned...



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posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: pexx421
This is all very similar to me to when we were fed the narrative about Libya and how we had to go “save” them. In fact I’m sure I see some of the same people here saying the same lines. I’m sure the people over there feel much gratitude now for the American brand of “saving”.

I just wonder where our military and threatened invasions were at when Rwanda, Djibouti, and the many other places that were really humanitarian disasters happened, in nations with fewer natural resources.


The puppet masters, the puppets and a majority of the American people are the only ones who want to see Venezuelan democracy destroyed and Venezuela asset stripped for the benefit of the puppet masters who have all the dirt on the puppets in government and media.

Yours, a few others here at ATS and some independent commentators in alternative media are a very small voice in the wilderness of lies, a veritable deluge drowning out any voice of reason, any dissent that dares to challenge the self perceived rights of the self entitled.


THE WAR ON VENEZUELA IS BUILT ON LIES

"Of the 92 elections that we've monitored," said former President Jimmy Carter, whose Carter Centre is a respected monitor of elections around the world, "I would say the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world." By way of contrast, said Carter, the US election system, with its emphasis on campaign money, "is one of the worst".

..journalist and film-maker Pablo Navarrete reported this week, Venezuela is not the catastrophe it has been painted. "There is food everywhere," he wrote. "I have filmed lots of videos of food in markets [all over Caracas] ... it's Friday night and the restaurants are full."

In 2018, Maduro was re-elected President. A section of the opposition boycotted the election, a tactic tried against Chavez. The boycott failed: 9,389,056 people voted; sixteen parties participated and six candidates stood for the presidency. Maduro won 6,248,864 votes, or 67.84 per cent.

Researchers at the University of the West of England studied the BBC's reporting of Venezuela over a ten-year period. They looked at 304 reports and found that only three of these referred to any of the positive policies of the government. For the BBC, Venezuela's democratic record, human rights legislation, food programmes, healthcare initiatives and poverty reduction did not happen. The greatest literacy programme in human history did not happen, just as the millions who march in support of Maduro and in memory of Chavez, do not exist.

johnpilger.com...


It was CIA asset Guaido's people that crossed the border into Columbia to attack the so-called aid trucks.

Columbia, Guaido, Macron, the Afghani opium fields, (the list is endless) have something in common - and it has nothing to do with freedom, democracy or self-determination.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 05:46 AM
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It's definitely not socialism's fault right? RIGHT?


They're not doing it right!

Here it will work!

They swear it will.




posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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ALL of those nations become authoritarian regimes that destroy the economy of those nations, and people's lives...


Read the green new deal to see the truth of that.

They destroy everything they don't like.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 05:48 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I've seen video's from there showing none of this media induced BS,the fools who watch TV are suckered by their story,I've seen where they have some shortages,but those are caused by US sanctions,what we are seeing here is the US/petro dollar using citizens to fight to secure their fortunes,if you can't see this I'm sorry,Venenzuelans have spoken let them be,Russia and China have bases surrounding area with nucleur capable landing areas,with INF off it's no holds barred,plus Venenzuela has US weapons this may not fair well for the USA and So America



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 06:32 AM
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Just to add to your comment about them needing to arm and organize.

I remember a story posted on ATS that tge citizens were not even allowed to have slingshots. That kind of thinking from govt and you think ppl are going to get organized? Organized as in line up against a wall right?

I'm not trying to be difficult i just want to know what you mean by gettingorganized against this type of state that will burn aid etc.

They likely have no access to weapons and their maniacal dictator has proven he will do what it takes. Remember to this guy everything is about him staying in power. I'm almost certain nothing else matters.



posted on Feb, 24 2019 @ 07:38 AM
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I wonder why the American media refuses to report that the 2 people killed by Maduro forces were members of an indigenous tribe that was involved in the protests?

The fact is that Maduro and his Socialist cronies have cracked down on indigenous people harder than any other group.

Is anyone surprised that the media won't report on a Socialist butchering Indigenous people?

I'm not surprised as that nukes their false information and phony moral outrage.




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