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Large cargo plane crashes east of Houston

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posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 11:01 PM
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Remains from all three crew have been recovered.




posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 10:23 PM
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posted on Mar, 1 2019 @ 02:55 PM
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Houston Chronicle is reporting the CVR black box has been recovered.

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posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 12:08 AM
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The FDR was recovered today.



posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 01:46 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

In both the video and the article, pilot fatigue is brought up. The news video has a specialist talking about how especially cargo pilots deal with fatigue.

is this a balloon they are floating, to put that in peoples' heads regarding the cause of the crash?

Is pilot fatigue always brought up in speculation in these crash incidents?



posted on Mar, 4 2019 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

Yeah, they tend to bring up everything and see what sticks to the wall. Fatigue will be brought up to link to the possibility that the crew was tired and made one or more mistakes that made things worse, or failed to recognize the situation until things were at the point they couldn't recover. It's possible it played a role.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: KansasGirl

Yeah, they tend to bring up everything and see what sticks to the wall. Fatigue will be brought up to link to the possibility that the crew was tired and made one or more mistakes that made things worse, or failed to recognize the situation until things were at the point they couldn't recover. It's possible it played a role.


Fatigue is one of the checklist items on the NTSB investigation protocal, under the human factors area. Other general areas include ATC, meteorology, flight planning, materials, powerplants and so on. And fatigue is a major problem, even more so for the cargo guys. The great majority of freight flights are midnight shift runs. Look on Flightaware at Louisville (SDF) and Memphis (MEM) at 2 or 3 in the morning some time. So circadian rhythms are screwed up and it's hard to sleep in the daytime so sleep deprivation is a problem. And there is a pilot shortage so crews are worked hard. A 30 million dollar airplane doesn't help pay for itself sitting on the ground so the goal is to keep them in the air. They now have both the FDR and CVR so everyone can soon stop speculating.



posted on Mar, 5 2019 @ 09:44 PM
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The NTSB plans to release an update in the coming days, after they verify information. The CVR recording, according to the update this afternoon, shows "crew communication consistent with a loss of control" 18 seconds prior to impact.

www.flightglobal.com...



posted on Mar, 7 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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posted on Mar, 7 2019 @ 11:54 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
Sherriff Department video showing impact.


the video isn't there, but I'm on my phone. Is everyone else seeing the video? I read the article and then the comments though. A few comments said it looked like the plane started to pull out of the nosedive right before impact. Is that even possible? Any random person can comment under those articles.



posted on Mar, 8 2019 @ 12:36 AM
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a reply to: KansasGirl

Fast forward to about 30 sec..
If not, here's another link of the Same security camera.
www.houstonchronicle.com...

Edit: refresh and the and Zaphod's will play at the 1 sec mark

edit on 8-3-2019 by Bigburgh because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 8 2019 @ 03:31 AM
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Looks like they were only just to start leveling out a couple hundred feet up.



posted on Mar, 8 2019 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: Bigburgh

Thank you, BB! That worked for me- much appreciated!



posted on Mar, 12 2019 @ 11:59 PM
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And the mystery deepens. The aircraft was cleared to divert around weather, but was told that the diversion would require an expedited descent to 3,000 feet. They leveled off at 6200 feet, followed by a brief climb to 6300 feet. At that time the aircraft was showing "small vertical accelerations consistent with the airplane entering turbulence".

The aircraft settled to 230 knots indicated, at which point the engines throttled to maximum power, the nose briefly pitched up to 4 degrees, before an elevator deflection put the aircraft into a nose low position, until they reached 49 degrees nose down until impact.

www.flightglobal.com...



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Would the nose pitch up as a result of the increased speed from the full throttling?
Or would that be two actions, Full throttle to max speed and some other action to get the nose to pitch up?



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: Observationalist

Full power can cause the nose to pitch up some, yes. So it may have pitched up due to the power increase, or it may have been another event.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 03:00 PM
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Funny that should come up as the MCAS is designed to prevent pitch changes with power on the 737 MAX due to the engine configuration change.

Sounds a bit like a deep stall and didn't have enough room to correct. (In the story it stated the nose came up to 20* nose down attitude)



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: Flipper35

They eventually reached 49 degrees nose low. They're hoping to release the CVR transcript soon, but there was some trouble with that one.



posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

What I don't understand is why planes are not required to have internal cockpit cam's that record to the cloud I mean the tech is cheap .
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posted on Mar, 13 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Gargoyle91

Because every time they've tried, unions have fought it tough and nail claiming privacy issues.




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