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Ocasio-Cortez: "Isn't $10 Million Enough? Like, When Does It Stop?"

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posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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AOC derangement syndrome

Conservatives have become the liberals of 2016. Congrats




posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 06:15 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Protecting America is WORTH IT.

There's a billboard in Times Square blasting Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AKA: AOC) for costing New York City, 25,000 jobs.

AOC blasted the billboard's owners for pointing out how nutty she is, in such a high-profile location.

Story: saraacarter.com...



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Ocrazyo Coo Coo is the stupidest person to have ever served in Congress. Seriously, how do her fellow representatives not take her outside and beat her senseless?

She is a complete idiot.

She has a CIA handler so apparently they are letting her intentionally implode.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
AOC derangement syndrome

Conservatives have become the liberals of 2016. Congrats


Not even close to a derangement syndrome such as what is experienced HOURLY by the left with regards to President Trump. Ocrazyo Coo Coo will be gone before we know it. President of the United States Trump, however, will remain through 2024.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: 1point92AU

She's only been in office for 2 months and there's, literally, dozens of posts in this forum about her. AOC derangement syndrome is real.



posted on Feb, 25 2019 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: 1point92AU

She's only been in office for 2 months and there's, literally, dozens of posts in this forum about her. AOC derangement syndrome is real.


There are not dozens of threads about her. You are attempting to exonerate the left's obsession with hating Trump which is something brought about by the left's inability to cope with loss.

By Trump's 2nd month in office 95% of all MSM news stories were of a negative capacity about Trump and they were literally made up in a vain attempt to disparage Trump. And here we are more than 2 years later still hearing daily made up lies about Trump.

The news stories about Ocrazio are actually what that imbecile believes and says. Not made up.

Ocrazio is a complete and absolute idiot and anyone who supports her or defends her is by default a complete and absolute idiot.

Nice try to deflect from the left's obsession with Trump and their inability to cope with loss. Maybe they should go scream at the sky some more.



posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: links234

That's ten...not dozens but I get your point. However, it will never come even remotely close to how much the left obsesses over the simple existence of Trump. Rent free.

I'm curious to know if you support Ocrazio's views?


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posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: 1point92AU

Why wouldn't I? They're forward thinking, grand-scale ideas that would genuinely benefit the vast majority of Americans if fully implemented.

Trump purposefully puts himself out there and says really ridiculous things to keep himself in the spotlight. I'd imagine he'll try to say/do something really crazy tomorrow while his former attorney/fixer, Michael Cohen, publicly testifies before the House Oversight committee. That's usually Trump's M.O. when Mueller news comes out.

No though, conservatives are obsessed with AOC because 1) she's a self-proclaimed socialist in a federal elected office and 2) she's incredibly popular.



posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: 1point92AU

Why wouldn't I? They're forward thinking, grand-scale ideas that would genuinely benefit the vast majority of Americans if fully implemented.

Trump purposefully puts himself out there and says really ridiculous things to keep himself in the spotlight. I'd imagine he'll try to say/do something really crazy tomorrow while his former attorney/fixer, Michael Cohen, publicly testifies before the House Oversight committee. That's usually Trump's M.O. when Mueller news comes out.

No though, conservatives are obsessed with AOC because 1) she's a self-proclaimed socialist in a federal elected office and 2) she's incredibly popular.


Oh wow. Let's keep this on topic. Name a single idea she's mouthed off about that has legitimate merit. I find it ironic she and her "new progressives" pay their staff the highest maximum allowed and then preach from the pulpits to the rest of society about government waste.

She's literally a cliche and she doesn't even know it. I admire the fact you admit you support her even though she is a complete and absolute idiot. Birds of a feather.

EDIT: I get it...you're a socialist. Not sure what an American socialist is though since America is not a socialist country. Can you explain what you mean by calling yourself an American socialist?

EDIT: One more thing you need to realize is that Ocrazio is indeed trying to copy Trump with her bombastic statement style. The massive difference in why Trump succeeds and she fails is the content of those comments. When Trump makes a bombastic statement it resonates with the vast majority of people because they, too, feel the same way.

When Ocrazio makes a bombastic statement it falls flat because socialist values are the extreme minority in our country. How do you not see this?

Dude...she was a bartender a year and a half ago. You have got to be kidding me if you think she is qualified for her office. Surely, you would argue Trump was not qualified based on his lack of political experience right? I mean that's all the left clamored about during the lead up to the election. Are you going to claim Ocrazio is qualified for her office?
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posted on Feb, 26 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU
Oh wow. Let's keep this on topic. Name a single idea she's mouthed off about that has legitimate merit. I find it ironic she and her "new progressives" pay their staff the highest maximum allowed and then preach from the pulpits to the rest of society about government waste.

She's literally a cliche and she doesn't even know it. I admire the fact you admit you support her even though she is a complete and absolute idiot. Birds of a feather.


The 70% tax on anything over $10 million isn't a terrible idea. It's just a single sentence she gave in a 60 minutes interview though and not a fleshed-out policy proposal, so far as I'm aware. The Green New Deal is an ambitious document that outlines ideas and concepts the country should strive to achieve. Universal healthcare would be fantastic and would save the country and its citizens billions per year.


EDIT: I get it...you're a socialist. Not sure what an American socialist is though since America is not a socialist country. Can you explain what you mean by calling yourself an American socialist?


Pretty straightforward: I'm an American and I'm a socialist. Specifically democratic-socialist but 'American Socialist' rolls off the tongue easier.


EDIT: One more thing you need to realize is that Ocrazio is indeed trying to copy Trump with her bombastic statement style. The massive difference in why Trump succeeds and she fails is the content of those comments. When Trump makes a bombastic statement it resonates with the vast majority of people because they, too, feel the same way.

When Ocrazio makes a bombastic statement it falls flat because socialist values are the extreme minority in our country. How do you not see this?

Dude...she was a bartender a year and a half ago. You have got to be kidding me if you think she is qualified for her office. Surely, you would argue Trump was not qualified based on his lack of political experience right? I mean that's all the left clamored about during the lead up to the election. Are you going to claim Ocrazio is qualified for her office?


I mean, we could start by being fair to the woman and not refer to her as 'O-crazy-o.' I could refer to Trump as 'Cadet Bonespurs' all the time, but I don't.

I thought you conservative types loved that 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps' stuff? Literally went from bartender to congress in two years. That's some vertical career movement! You know what makes her qualified to be a Representative? She's the 29 year old; there's over 70 million people in America who are under the age of 30 and only 1 person in congress. What else? She worked in the service industry (bartender), service industry jobs outnumber goods-producing jobs by 10-1. Finally, I don't think she'd qualify as 'an idiot.' she graduated cum laude (top 30%) from Boston University majoring in foreign relations and economics.

Finally, in your part of town, 'socialist views' might be the extreme minority, but more and more Americans view 'socialist' ideas favorably than at any point in the last 30 years. Whether those ideas are Medicare for All, free college tuition or just higher taxes on the rich. Americans want these things, particularly young Americans. The kids who grew up during the recession might've watched their parents lose their houses or their jobs and were told 'just go to college to get a good job so this doesn't happen to you' only to be saddled with tremendous debt and working in a bar (hint hint!) with little to no options in affordable health insurance. All the while the billionaire class was shielded from the fallout through bailouts, tax breaks and not a single prison sentence. Kids are waking up today only to realize that our government doesn't work for us, it works for wealthy and they're electing people who promise to stop it.



posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: links234

I'm not a conservative and you haven't been paying attention to her lately. She is a complete and absolute idiot who knows absolutely nothing...and I mean nothing of basic economics. That's not my opinion. She does not understand basic economics

The list of ridiculous and stupid things this woman has said is long and it is clear...crystal clear she is being used as a puppet by the left. The fact there are people in the world who actually believe what this child says goes to show how uneducated the general populace is.

One last thing is you do not understand what socialism is. You are not a socialist. You just want free stuff and don't want to work for it. You were raised poorly and didn't have a good home base of examples. Just because you don't want to work for things in life doesn't make you a socialist. That just means you're lazy.

EDIT: You should look up what she decided to overpay her staff. Just another wannabe Jenny from the block taking advantage of taxpayer dollars by overpaying the hell out of her staff while she lectures the people about income inequality. Just an FYI the district she represents median income is $37K and he lowest paid staff member is $51K. You should look at the stats of who actually voted for this fool.







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posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU
a reply to: links234

I'm not a conservative and you haven't been paying attention to her lately. She is a complete and absolute idiot who knows absolutely nothing...and I mean nothing of basic economics. That's not my opinion. She does not understand basic economics

The list of ridiculous and stupid things this woman has said is long and it is clear...crystal clear she is being used as a puppet by the left. The fact there are people in the world who actually believe what this child says goes to show how uneducated the general populace is.

One last thing is you do not understand what socialism is. You are not a socialist. You just want free stuff and don't want to work for it. You were raised poorly and didn't have a good home base of examples. Just because you don't want to work for things in life doesn't make you a socialist. That just means you're lazy.

EDIT: You should look up what she decided to overpay her staff. Just another wannabe Jenny from the block taking advantage of taxpayer dollars by overpaying the hell out of her staff while she lectures the people about income inequality. Just an FYI the district she represents median income is $37K and he lowest paid staff member is $51K. You should look at the stats of who actually voted for this fool.








She pays lower grade members of staff at a high rate than average and pays senior staff at a lower rate than the average.

That is exactly what she should be doing if she is arguing against income inequality.

She had a degree in economics from a decent university. Which suggest she knows economics than the majority of people on this site.

Finally the fact that you are resorting to personal insults against a poster just devalues any legitimacy your argument might have (as well as being against ATS t&cs).


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posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
Finally the fact that you are resorting to personal insults against a poster just devalues any legitimacy your argument might have (as well as being against ATS t&cs).


It's ok, my desire for my own taxes to be raised so that my less-wealthy neighbors down the street can have health insurance without fear of bankruptcy and affordable college for their children makes me lazy.

On a personal note, I don't advocate on these policies for myself. I'm privileged and I've been incredibly fortunate throughout my life putting me in a fairly comfortable economic position (I have time and resources to argue on the internet!). However, I've known and continue to know people who have been seriously impacted by poverty and joblessness in America. At some points in my life, myself included. If that makes me a 'lazy' person then so-be-it, that will not stop me from advocating for so-called socialist policies on others behalf.



posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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Think of all the business and products and services the USA would NOT have if people were capped on how much money they could make. What would be the point? Clearly a motivation killer.



posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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Do you not realize the absolute hypocrisy of that "logic". By your logic (and hers) when those lower entry level personnel reach a senior status they are going to have their salaries reverted to less than entry level employees.

That is the single dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Here are the economics since no one seems to understand. If you start out making $50K you are on a path towards "upward mobility". You get a nicer place to live because the shlt hole you are currently living in is....well...a shlt hole. So you get a nicer place and guess what? You love it! I mean come on...who wouldn't right? My first place was an absolute shlt hole and I hated it but it was all I could afford. I wanted a nicer place so I put in the hours, did the grind, gained the necessary experience to advance in my career and low and behold I was promoted. I EARNED that income. No one simply gave it to me.

So then I get a nicer place. Next stop was to replace the absolute piece of shlt car I was driving because it was a 50/50 chance it would even start every time I got into it. So I got a nicer more reliable car. But it was more expensive and what allowed me to afford it was my EARNED increase in my income.

So a few years pass and I move into a mid level position and then ultimately into a senior level position after 10 years. Not executive top level but I moved near the top.

So by your logic this is the point where senior level people should have the 10+ years of their hard earned advancement reflected in substantial increases in pay taken from them and given to low entry level people?

Then that entry level person will lose their income after they reach a senior level position? After they have already amassed the things in life that were only affordable based upon their income level? So what are they supposed to do when they can no longer afford these items?

I genuinely asking you to explain to me how this is supposed to work because I'm not seeing it. I'm open to having my perception on anything changed as long as there is a logical, valid, and provable line of reasoning.

Go for it.



posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 01:54 PM
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We are talking about average for their grade. Senior staff still earn more than junior and no one has anything taken away from them as they progress.

The difference is just less extreme than for most congressional staff.




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posted on Feb, 27 2019 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
We are talking about average for their grade. Senior staff still earn more than junior and no one has anything taken away from them as they progress.

The difference is just less extreme than for most congressional staff.



Thanks for the thoughtful response. So you are advocating for a much higher entry level pay grade for inexperienced workers but keeping senior staff salaries in tact? What are the metrics you would use to justify paying someone $50K instead of the entry level salary of $35K?

And back to the economics. Let's say we adopt your philosophy and we simply pay people more money. The cost of goods are services are going to exponentially increase along with the purchasing power of an individual. It's the natural balance of things and has been this way since we had a controlled money supply.

Being on ATS I would assume you have some level of a belief in conspiracy theories, right? Would you believe our purchasing power and the purchasing power of all currencies worldwide are intentionally manipulated in an effort to keep people at a very specific level of purchasing power? If you don't believe that then my question would be why has the power of the US dollar fallen by 95% when we are the wordl's economic superpower, the world's reserve currency, and the world's most powerful military? We literally have everything possible at our disposal to ensure we continue to dominate the world stage. Yet, we see the purchasing power of our currency continually eroded away year after year.

It is by design.



posted on Feb, 28 2019 @ 02:18 AM
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originally posted by: 1point92AU

originally posted by: ScepticScot
We are talking about average for their grade. Senior staff still earn more than junior and no one has anything taken away from them as they progress.

The difference is just less extreme than for most congressional staff.



Thanks for the thoughtful response. So you are advocating for a much higher entry level pay grade for inexperienced workers but keeping senior staff salaries in tact? What are the metrics you would use to justify paying someone $50K instead of the entry level salary of $35K?

And back to the economics. Let's say we adopt your philosophy and we simply pay people more money. The cost of goods are services are going to exponentially increase along with the purchasing power of an individual. It's the natural balance of things and has been this way since we had a controlled money supply.

Being on ATS I would assume you have some level of a belief in conspiracy theories, right? Would you believe our purchasing power and the purchasing power of all currencies worldwide are intentionally manipulated in an effort to keep people at a very specific level of purchasing power? If you don't believe that then my question would be why has the power of the US dollar fallen by 95% when we are the wordl's economic superpower, the world's reserve currency, and the world's most powerful military? We literally have everything possible at our disposal to ensure we continue to dominate the world stage. Yet, we see the purchasing power of our currency continually eroded away year after year.

It is by design.


The argument isn't that there is a justification for paying some people a higher entry level salary, but that the entry level salary should be higher. It would be massively hypocritical of her to pay the lower salary when she has control over the salary budget.

If we paid everyone more then yes there would be increase in prices. The relationship isn't linear as it depends on spare capacity in the economy but certainly across board increase would, all else being equal, increase the cost of living.

That is why it's important to look at income inequality. There is no definitive answer in Economics about what what levels of income or wealth inequality are bad or not. There is a strong case made that current high levels of inequality are damaging to the economy, howver there are also many economists who would argue attempts to address inequality reduce economic growth.

Ultimately its a political and ethic decision about what level of inequality want or accept in society.

Not sure what you mean by controlled money supply. The money supply isn't controlled but it is influenced.

You are right and wrong about inflation being manipulated. Yes it is manipulated but no it's not a conspiracy.

Conventional economic thought has been for almost a century that deflation is far worse than inflation. Since economic tools aren't precise enough to target zero inflation pretty much every developed economy targets to have small amount of inflation (With variable levies of success). Due to the power of compounding this means purchasing power of each unit of currency declines a lot over time.

It's not a conspiracy as it's entirely out in the open and central banks/governments publish inflation targets on a regular basis.

The relative purchasing power of the Dollar to other countries remains strong despite running a constant trade deficit because of reasons you gave.


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