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Chicago Dem Wants Socialism to Have ‘Control of Every Single Facet of Our Life’

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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Gawd you conservatives are so close minded.
Gay people, trans people, bi sexual people, minorities exist, and racial inequality exists and there is no reality that says different.




posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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originally posted by: Rokal
a reply to: neo96

Gawd you conservatives are so close minded.
Gay people, trans people, bi sexual people, minorities exist, and racial inequality exists and there is no reality that says different.


What a weird post.

I don't think anyone denies the existence nor the Constitutional rights that everyone has.

Everyone has the right to self determine.

What many of us are against is a type of government that would deny individual rights, deny self-determination.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Rokal

The GD 14th amendment gives EVERYONE the RIGHT to not like someone else.

DEAL with your close mindedness.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Rokal
a reply to: neo96

Gawd you conservatives are so close minded.
Gay people, trans people, bi sexual people, minorities exist, and racial inequality exists and there is no reality that says different.


What a weird post.

I don't think anyone denies the existence nor the Constitutional rights that everyone has.

Everyone has the right to self determine.

What many of us are against is a type of government that would deny individual rights, deny self-determination.



originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Rokal

The GD 14th amendment gives EVERYONE the RIGHT to not like someone else.

DEAL with your close mindedness.


I think my point about voters who simply don't care about consequences and will support/defend anything as long as 'their side' wins has been well supported in this thread - ironically by the exact same kind of people i am referring to.

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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: neo96

I think your member status sums it up best neo



When tyranny becomes law. Rebellion becomes duty.


Patriots would never stand for it

The new Project GLADIO


Tyranny by majority is no different than any other form. All are equally intolerable and offensive to a sane, logical, intelligent and trailblazing people
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




I'd comment but you can't even get the State right roflol


Ok so I got the state wrong... was it NC? I work and take care of my family... Soi do you care to comment now or did I get it wrong again?

You post so much political snip I wondered if you would be all over this... but as i thought, nope...

but feel free to comment now...



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: tinner07

The NC thing was a pre-arranged DNC set-up that got exposed to take the focus off Cal-if/or-nia😎



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Rokal

You are actually the first and only person to say this, or even use those words in this thread.

Meanwhile, conservatives are merely restating the obvious fact that individual rights, individual liberty and universal protection of Americans' rights is non-negotiable. The government is out of control as it is, anyone who thinks we will cede even another inch to them needs to have their head examined

Americans have the right to exist without interruption/interaction with the government. We don't need a bunch of anyone (no matter how large your mob voting bloc is) telling us how to run our lives. Nobody knows what I need better than me, same for DB same for Neo same for any other American. We are capable of making choices as individuals and then living with the consequences of those choices no matter how good or bad they may be

In short, if my actions aren't infringing upon "your" (any other person) rights, then "you" have no right/no business telling me whether I can or cannot do something, own something, say something, buy something, etc.

The heart of socialism/communism is all about control. It is about forcing others to see things your way, and using the power of public institutions against private citizens who aren't interested in that hodgy podgy kumbaya eco-# nonsense.

No matter what socialism brings, the cost is simply too high. There is no end result that socialism could bring about that makes it worth giving up even a spec/a mere morsel of our unalienable rights. Those unalienable rights are the only thing this country has left.
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:28 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




The NC thing was a pre-arranged DNC set-up that got exposed to take the focus off Cal-if/or-nia😎


So the republicans cheating... committing voter fraud... The one thing that republicans cry most about... was pre arranged by the democrats to get the focus of California? (i don't care how you spell it)...

Do you have links to prove thiz? Zou knowz...likez whatz you bitches alwasy ask for???



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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But they're competing to see who can give THE MOST money away.

twitter.com...



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: tinner07

What "cheating" would that be?

Seems mainstream Dems accept that Clinton was a fundamentally flawed candidate. Looking at her performance in past campaigns (failed Presidential bids) along with her personality defects (very boring, low energy, comes off as snobby, etc) along with the DNC's railroading of Bernie voters paints a much clearer picture

The only "rigging" or cheating that occurred was the DNC against Bernie, and the liars in Nevada making up stories about "chair throwing" that were wholly disproven - merely the favor. Or Hillary provably conspiring with foreign nationals (from the UK and Russia) with the intent of using lies/rumors/innuendo to swing an election and conceal the source (in her true felonious and low-life fashion) of the illegal campaign contributions/conspiracy to defraud the United States. Just like the parade of lying women her and that chump liar Gloria Allred paraded out with accusations only to disappear back in the wood work

Yeah, some "cheating" happened. But there is not even a single shred of evidence showing any sort of illegal "collusion" where Trump is concerned.
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




I'd comment but you can't even get the State right roflol


Actually that should also help you when commenting on anything trump says... you can pretty much stay silent right? lol... you care so much about facts right?



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Our money of course

Don't you love when ideologically corrupt puppets with the IQ of a toaster oven scheme about how to best take our money and throw it away? Especially when it is thrown away on causes that can't even be convoluted/twisted to pretending it is somehow beneficial to those actually funding (being robbed) them

I have no desire to contribute even a dime to traitors that plan, plot and/or advocate for the infringement of any unalienable right (including free speech, RKBA, limited government, etc). Makes no difference to me whether the enemies of America (those who attack/plot against our Constitution) have a meal on the table or not. Frankly, I prefer "not"

There is nothing they can say/do or that socialism can offer that makes it worth giving up those rights
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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a reply to: tinner07

NC District 9 under assault !!




posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 01:53 PM
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So the republicans cheating... committing voter fraud... The one thing that republicans cry most about... was pre arranged by the democrats to get the focus of California? (i don't care how you spell it).


I see someone missed the DNC convention,and illegal spying, and Russia hoax by the D side.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 02:32 PM
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For those of you blind to what the left really want...allow me to spell it out.

1. Leftist politicians will be the only government. Your opinion is not only not welcome, it is in fact illegal so shut up!

2. They will decide everything. Where you live, what you eat, what you're taught...literally everything. Your opinion again is not welcome, it is in fact illegal so shut up!

3. You will work (slaves) and they will use your income to provide for everyone. You get nothing but what they provide. This means they can starve you if you don't conform, they can decide you should die, they can limit the number of children you can have, they can even decide how many squares you're allowed to wipe your ass. And they will!

4. You will be slaves at best, livestock at worst and America will become one giant farm of citizens...and illegals of course. And it will be managed as a farm. Life is trivial...your value is worthless individually...you will be given enough to survive (most of the time) and your future is no longer yours. You will live in pens, you will be fed slop and you better praise them or you will be put "out to pasture".

This is their long term goal. Just show me one Dem that cares what the people they represent want. With the exception of their vote. Remove the vote (item #1 above) and you are done for.

So...what is keeping this from happening? Trump...the right...guns...votes (why they want illegals), the Constitution and the real threat of a REVOLUTION. So...any surprise these are their targets? Remove these things as they wish and you have put the nails in Freedom's casket.
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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: Rokal
a reply to: neo96

Gawd you conservatives are so close minded.
Gay people, trans people, bi sexual people, minorities exist, and racial inequality exists and there is no reality that says different.


Quite the contrary. Let's look at the premise this politician (democrat - liberal - NOT conservative) is endorsing. He is saying that we should vote by simple majority for everything, everywhere.

Let's say you are gay or trans or bi. Let's say you are black or Hispanic or Asian or another racial/ethnic minority.

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Did you notice that word I used? You know which one, minority. It implies that members of those groups are not a majority voice. Further it implies the things they want, that they say they desperately *need* in order to function normally in society, are only *needed* by a minority of citizens.

If everything in your democratic socialist Utopia, everything, every facet of your life, is to be decided by majority vote, then what happens to those things the minority says they desperately need in order to survive?

I'll tell you. No one votes for those things because most people don't need them and see no reason to have them or make special effort in society for them. And those minorities have to do without. In fact, another liberal poster pointed this out to me in a post made up thread if you were paying attention.

Whereas under the system we have now, it is very possible for a vocal, motivated minority to change that -- to overturn a majority will and obtain those things they say they need for themselves because we have the rule of law, not a simple, winner-take-all mob rule by majority will. This is in fact what we conservative posters have been saying to you over and over and over again all over this thread.

Sure, you're right. We may not especially care overmuch for this or that racial/ethnic/sexual grievance group in particular and we may think they're pushing for things beyond what they're entitled to under the laws we all enjoy, but also know the rule of law protects them the same as us as individuals and they should receive at least that much and when they don't, it's wrong.



posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: gortex

Like always, a socialist who has never seen , known, or experienced what socialism really is... BTW, Chavez was also supposedly chosen "democratically." So another definition for "socialism of the 21st century" is "democratic socialism..."

BTW, Ugo Okere said this in an interview that was done by the openly socialist magazine Jacobin... Which YOU are trying to claim didn't happen...

Here it is...




02.21.2019

United States

Party Politics Cities

“This Campaign Is Literally Making Socialists”

An interview with
Ugo Okere

Ugo Okere is a 22-year-old Nigerian immigrant and democratic socialist running for Chicago City Council. In an interview, he describes his history as an activist, the smears he's faced from the incumbent, and why democratic socialismis about democratic control of every single facet of our life.
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jacobinmag.com...

Is your next claim going to be that Jacobin is controlled by Republicans/conservatives and that it was all staged?...


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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Rokal
a reply to: neo96

Gawd you conservatives are so close minded.
Gay people, trans people, bi sexual people, minorities exist, and racial inequality exists and there is no reality that says different.


And of course you seem to have no idea whatsoever that millions of "gay people, minorities, etc" also happen to be "conservative..." As for "racial inequality" in the U.S.?... BS... It is people like you who always want to blame the police for having to shoot at black criminals, but people like you ignore that the majority of blacks who are shot, are shot by other blacks...

Not to mention the fact that socialism, or whatever new name you want to give it, does not make things better for ANYONE except for the socialists elites like AOC and B. Sanders...

AOC is living now like a queen meanwhile she illegally gave her boyfriend a House electronic account, and she is now being investigated for possibly transferring money from her campaign as well as possibly paying him with tax payer money. This money going to her boyfriend, which if true, goes back to her... In other words, AOC seems to be showing herself to be nothing more than another ignorant socialist who has become corrupt. She denounces campaign donations from companies that donate to conservatives/Republicans, meanwhile ignoring and not going after campaign donations from companies to democrats and socialists like herself...


When she was chosen in New York's district, that district, and those who follow her, have shown to be nothing more than ignorant sheep who willingly want to get into the "socialist slaughterhouse." That's what socialism is, a slaughterhouse in which "willing and unwilling" people get shafted, thanks to the most ignorant people on the planet who want to ignore and dismiss the failures of socialism, and the billions who have suffered because of it.


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posted on Feb, 23 2019 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: neo96




Why don't you actually READ the interview?

Too much work?

If you had bothered to post it in the OP then I would but trudging about in right wing crap looking for more right wing crap isn't my idea of a good time.
Keep posting the right wing garbage , the yocals will lap it up.



Last I looked at the rules here, excessive use of quoting is a no no.

So this seems like a lazy excuse.




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